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Tell me about acupuncture

Originally posted by: Kwaipie
Have you ever used it to defeat smoking, drinking, weightloss, chronic masturbation? Did it work?
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I was able to discontinue the use of Western blood pressure medicine after about 5 months of acupuncture. So far the blood pressure issue hasn't returned.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Fairy tale nonsense propagated by a bunch of mantra-chanting incense-breathing herb-sucking yahoos.

- M4H
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Western medicine may not be able as scientifically documented as modern-day medical practice, but some treatments do work.

Acupuncture relieved my dad's back and wrist joint inflammation and he only had 1 treatment about 4-5 years ago. As for chronic masturbation, I'm quite sure sticking needles into your wood will curb your thirst to grab hold and jerk... especially if the acupuncturist tells you to leave the needles in 😱
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Fairy tale nonsense propagated by a bunch of mantra-chanting incense-breathing herb-sucking yahoos.

- M4H
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Have you ever had a treatment done?

Sure, it may not be as advanced as Western medicine, and not all treatments are effective, but acupuncture is still very effective in some area. I know for a fact that it has really helped me for sprained ankles, and I have had some really severe ones. I couldn't even lean on my left foot but after the treatment, I was able to walk with a minor limp. I also know some friends with back problems who swear by it.

To make a comment like that is ignorant and asinine.
 
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Fairy tale nonsense propagated by a bunch of mantra-chanting incense-breathing herb-sucking yahoos.

- M4H
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Have you ever had a treatment done?
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No, but I've been stabbed. Like all intelligent humans, I endeavour to avoid having sharp objects inserted into my soft squishy body.

Sure, it may not be as advanced as Western medicine, and not all treatments are effective, but acupuncture is still very effective in some area.
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You hardly ever hear that with penicillin.

I know for a fact that it has really helped me for sprained ankles, and I have had some really severe ones. I couldn't even lean on my left foot but after the treatment, I was able to walk with a minor limp. I also know some friends with back problems who swear by it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

To make a comment like that is ignorant and asinine.
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What are you going to do, throw a fireball at me?

HADOKEN

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

HADOKEN

- M4H
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No I will upper cut you through the ceiling!

Sho-ryu-ken! 😀

HAHA, you are saying my ankle got better because of placebo effect? LOL!
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: glutenberg
I guess they should've just given me some sugar pills instead of all that fun Benicar.
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How do you know they didn't, and just told you it was Benicar?

- M4H
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Well, for a placebo, there sure were some nasty side effects.

Additionally, prior to going to the acupuncturist, I had issues with my liver, namely high SGPT numbers. Had a blood test done before I went in (issue had existed for about a year prior to acupuncture, with monthly blood tests for monitoring) and had a blood test performed after I finished. So far, the SGPT numbers are well within normal range again. So, even if it's a placebo effect, which it may or may not be, it still helped me out.
 
Originally posted by: Dacalo
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

HADOKEN

- M4H
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No I will upper cut you through the ceiling!

Sho-ryu-ken! 😀

HAHA, you are saying my ankle got better because of placebo effect? LOL!
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/counters

Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!

You know, this funny thing happened to me in high school ... my hand got broken in gym class. What do you know, immobilise it and it healed just fine without any needles. Same thing with a knife wound ... it's almost as if the human body has this magical power to heal itself.

😉

Originally posted by: glutenberg
Well, for a placebo, there sure were some nasty side effects.
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Placebo effect works two ways, it's well-documented. Biofeedback is a bitch.

Additionally, prior to going to the acupuncturist, I had issues with my liver, namely high SGPT numbers. Had a blood test done before I went in (issue had existed for about a year prior to acupuncture, with monthly blood tests for monitoring) and had a blood test performed after I finished. So far, the SGPT numbers are well within normal range again. So, even if it's a placebo effect, which it may or may not be, it still helped me out.
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I'm not debating the fact that you got better - it's just whether the needles or your own "inner strength" if you will - made it better.

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

You know, this funny thing happened to me in high school ... my hand got broken in gym class. What do you know, immobilise it and it healed just fine without any needles. Same thing with a knife wound ... it's almost as if the human body has this magical power to heal itself.
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You don't understand, I couldn't walk at all before the treatment and I was able to walk immediately after the treatment. In fact, the doctor asked me to walk with needles still in me (kind of stung). My swelling went away within a couple of hours.
 
Yes, I had very bad chronic neck pain to the point I would want to throw up, everyday. After a couple of sessions, the pain stopped. Also, after each session, I felt sooooooo relaxed and it seemed my senses were more active.


Disclaimer:
I am not a hippy, tree-hugger, liberal activist, homeopathy loving, BO smelling, dirty haired, Prius driving, stickers all over my car, believes Elvis still lives, PETA member, feng shui, anti-war activist, Rosie O'Donnell, or one who believes in the after life. But I do like Snickers.
 
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Yes, I had very bad chronic neck pain to the point I would want to throw up, everyday. After a couple of sessions, the pain stopped. Also, after each session, I felt sooooooo relaxed and it seemed my senses were more active.
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Are we talking about acupuncture, or burning a J?

Because I'm pretty sure both of them would have curbed your symptoms. 😛

- M4H
 
My dad is an acupuncturist, and so i work there alot.

I'll tell you, I used to be a skeptic. But I've seen amazing things in that office. People who could barely walk, walked out with a straight back.

From first hand experiance, it works
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
I'm not debating the fact that you got better - it's just whether the needles or your own "inner strength" if you will - made it better.

- M4H
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Mmm, inner strength, rawr.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: jhayx7
Yes, I had very bad chronic neck pain to the point I would want to throw up, everyday. After a couple of sessions, the pain stopped. Also, after each session, I felt sooooooo relaxed and it seemed my senses were more active.
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Are we talking about acupuncture, or burning a J?

Because I'm pretty sure both of them would have curbed your symptoms. 😛

- M4H
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:laugh:


 
No real conclusive science behind it but as long as people claim to be feeling better then that's all that really matters. Just gotta make sure this is only a compliment to actual medical treatment and not an alternative. Same with chiropractors, only a problem if it gets in the way of real medical treatment
 
I haven't personally. But my friend goes to an M.D that specializes in acupuncture, and she swears by it (she was introduced to this Dr through a pharmaceutical rep as well, who uses her). She's expensive as hell, like $200 a treatment, and that's not including the herbal meds (which costs about $150 for her... this is for weight loss). But being an M.D, she also has a very strong background in western medicine, which helps with understanding concern conditions (such as my friend, who was on a heavy dose of prednisone for years).

If you're in the Boca Raton area and wants to go to her, pm me. Like i said, she's expensive as hell, but she's also a real M.D.
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
No real conclusive science behind it but as long as people claim to be feeling better then that's all that really matters.
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There's lack of 'conclusive' science for A LOT of the meds out there, especially the psychoactive ones.
 
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