Telemetry and data logging being added to 7/8/8.1

[ShintaiDK]

Not so much to say. Its more or less the same from Windows 10.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708

This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I've actually disabled updates on my 7 machine for now as I had the feeling MS would try to pull a fast one. Either they are getting a huge payout from the feds or been threatened to do this stuff.

 

[SparkyJJO]

I've actually disabled updates on my 7 machine for now as I had the feeling MS would try to pull a fast one. Either they are getting a huge payout from the feds or been threatened to do this stuff.

Or maybe they are actually trying to improve their operating system by catching issues on the fly.

Truth is you're making a false dilemma there. We don't know for certain the exact reasoning behind it all. There is a good chance what you say is true, but equally as good a chance that MS is just trying to improve their product.

Given that Windows is a globally used operating system, unless MS was somehow being coerced or paid off by all the various governments in the world, your assumption is a bit far-fetched. And there is zero proof anywhere that MS is grabbing your personal data to report anyone to any government anywhere.

There is a line between being cautious and paranoia.

 

[It's Not Lupus]

I think this is a recommended update and has been out for a while but keeps reappearing even after marked as hidden.

I actually becoming suspicious of new critical updates now. I wondering if MS will update the update system itself for 7 and 8 making telemetry required.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I dont hope anyone worrying about Windows telemetry uses any Google or Apple products and services just to mention a few

 

[ninaholic37]

I've actually disabled updates on my 7 machine for now as I had the feeling MS would try to pull a fast one. Either they are getting a huge payout from the feds or been threatened to do this stuff.

Yeah, I've always kept Windows Updates completely off. Once in a while (maybe once a year) I might turn it on to grab the 83 updates, test to make sure everything still works, and if it doesn't then rollback and never turn on updates again (which is what I had to do last time on my netbook, thankfully System Restore actually worked and didn't bork everything). Using Windows XP is easier because you can just find a slipstreamed SP4 version and never have to worry about turning on updates ever again, though using Wine in Linux sometimes works even better than XP itself for win32 programs so I wouldn't even bother with XP, let alone the fiasco that 7/8/10 is turning into.

 

[Ketchup]

I removed and hid this update a couple weeks ago. The nice part, with 7 and 8(.1), is that you can still choose not to install updates.

 

[TheGardener]

The unknown is whether they will still provide a description of what the KB update is for. I do want critical updates that are to prevent Windows 7 from being compromised or exploited.

Anything that says Windows 10 or Telemetry hasn't been installed on my laptop. Also I didn't install KB3064209 which fixes Intel CPU. I don't know what this fix is. Couldn't find anything at the Intel website.

I know that MS wants me to be their product. How long I can hold out, I don't know. The Germans seems to have strong privacy rights. I wonder what they are doing about this, if anything?

 

[balloonshark]

I uninstalled that one a couple of days ago on my Win 8.1 machine. I got tired of seeing vortex and settings connecting to Singapore several times a day. I guess it's easier to skirt US laws when you send "diagnostics telemetry" to another country. I don't know about you all but I'm tired of this crap.

 

[Executioner]

So what are the KB's that you need to remove from windows 7?

 

[Ketchup]

so what are the kb's that you need to remove from windows 7?

Look at berryracer's post.

 

[Underclocked]

KB2977759, KB2990214, KB2952664, KB3021917, KB3022345, KB3068708, KB3035583, KB3075249, and KB3080149

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

It would be a whole lot easier to just disable them in the task manager. Maybe there's more to it but it looks like everything is under Application Experience and Customer Experience Improvement Program.

 

[Berryracer]

So what are the KB's that you need to remove from windows 7?

This is my list of updates you need to hide:

KB2505438 (Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts)

KB2670838 (The EVIL Update, breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy, Windows 7 specific update only, do not install IE10 or 11 otherwise it will be bundled with them, IE9 is the max version you should install)

KB2952664 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB2976978 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparati0on + Telemetry)

KB3022345 (Telemetry)

KB3035583 (Windows 10 upgrade preparation)

KB3068708 (Telemetry)

KB3075249 (Telemetry)

KB3080149 (Telemetry)

 

[Executioner]

This is my list of updates you need to hide:

KB2505438 (Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts)

KB2670838 (The EVIL Update, breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy, Windows 7 specific update only, do not install IE10 or 11 otherwise it will be bundled with them, IE9 is the max version you should install)

KB2952664 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB2976978 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB2977759 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB2990214 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparation)

KB3021917 (Windows 10 Upgrade preparati0on + Telemetry)

KB3022345 (Telemetry)

KB3035583 (Windows 10 upgrade preparation)

KB3068708 (Telemetry)

KB3075249 (Telemetry)

KB3080149 (Telemetry)

Holy crap! Here I thought it was going to be okay to stay with windows 7 until my hardware dies. I guess I need to review each and every KB update, since MS's boiler plate explanation sucks.

 

[Red Squirrel]

When were these released? I'm starting to wonder if I accidentally let some of these through. I've gotten used to Linux where I just say yes to everything and was doing that in windows too for a while. If MS is smart they probably made it so that even if you uninstall these they stay. Spyware is usually not designed to be easy to remove.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Nothing was broken on any of the Windows 7 PCs I manage (an entire business with them) that has that "evil" update installed. Aero not broken, no fuzzy font issues, none of that.

 

[balloonshark]

Here is a pic to prove the connection I was talking about. If I clicked resolve address it would either say vortex or settings. Both of which were mentioned in OP's link.

 

[DigDog]

shame that once again pirates will have the superior OS.

 

[blackangst1]

This is bad. Very very bad.

#tinfoilhat.gif

edit: forgot to add, for all you privacy fanatics that still use Windows 7...Im assuming you removed update KB971033 from 2010, right? (It allows Windows to call home to MS every so often). If not, why not?

HERE is a good thread talking about it.

edit 2: looks like MS added telemetry in April

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Holy crap! Here I thought it was going to be okay to stay with windows 7 until my hardware dies. I guess I need to review each and every KB update, since MS's boiler plate explanation sucks.

Nah, THIS is boilerplate

 

[Red Squirrel]

Nah, THIS is boilerplate

That is just freaking hilarious.

 

[SparkyJJO]

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

This is bad. Very very bad.

#tinfoilhat.gif

edit: forgot to add, for all you privacy fanatics that still use Windows 7...Im assuming you removed update KB971033 from 2010, right? (It allows Windows to call home to MS every so often). If not, why not?

HERE is a good thread talking about it.

edit 2: looks like MS added telemetry in April

You can disable that in the task manager as well. I strongly suggest those who are concerned take a look through your task managers instead of trying to pick out and decipher all of these updates. I've been disabling these things to keep my hard drive from crunching away at random times as much as for privacy concerns.

 

[Underclocked]

I wonder what this might do


powershell get-hotfix -id kb2977759,kb2990214,kb2952664,kb3021917,kb3022345,kb3068708,kb3035583,kb3044374,kb2976978,kb3050265,kb3075249,kb3080149
@ECHO off
COLOR 16
ECHO
ECHO Removing Windows 10 Update offers
ECHO ver 08/20/2015
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2977759 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3050265 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /quiet /norestart
start /wait wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /quiet /norestart
ECHO
ECHO Spyware were sucessfully uninstalled!
ECHO ===========================================
ECHO
ECHO Don't forget disable these updates:
ECHO Windows 7:
ECHO ===========================================
ECHO KB2977759, KB2990214, KB2952664, KB3021917,
ECHO KB3022345, KB3068708, KB3035583, KB3075249
ECHO and KB3080149
ECHO Windows 8/8.1:
ECHO ===========================================
ECHO KB3022345, KB3068708, KB3035583, KB3044374
ECHO KB2976978, KB3075249 and KB3080149
ECHO ===========================================
ECHO
ECHO Press any key to restart.
ECHO
PAUSE
C: \Windows\System32\shutdown.exe /r /t 10 /c "This system will restart in 10 seconds"
EXIT

Remove extra space after C: . Hey, I didn't author this. Credit due JanCerny