Telemetry and data logging being added to 7/8/8.1

[Underclocked]

Exactly.

As I said before... assimilated. Make cookies for the peeping toms!

 

[Executioner]

Yeah it amazes me that most people are not concerned about their privacy. People just say "I have nothing to hide". This just encourages governments and companies into doing this stuff more as they figure there's not enough people that will try to make a fuss about it. I wonder if those people have curtains in their house windows and put clothes on when they go in public. If they do, I guess they must have something to hide.

To me, it's just the principle of it, they have zero business with any of my data or knowing what I'm doing. Absolutely none. Everyone seems to want to spy on us everywhere we go now, it's a horrible trend. Government, companies, etc. We need to fight this, we can't just sit down and accept it, because it will only get worse and all that data WILL eventually be used against you. People are freaking out about the Ashley Madison hack. Big freaking deal, you have to actually sign up to that and give it some data, and if you don't want people to know you're cheating, well, don't cheat in first place. But with all this stuff where companies and governments are collecting data about everything you do, there's no opt out of that and there's bound to be stuff you don't want people to see.

I agree. I try to limit the collection as much as possible. Every little bit helps. It's no one else's business what I'm doing or where I'm going on the net.

 

[TeknoBug]

You know those two Boston marathon bombers, Feds 6 months prior spotted their activity online and paid them a visit then didn't do anything about it after that then it was too late when they set the bombs up (feds are at fault for this). The point is that Feds noticed their intended activity early, that's why we have everything snooping us these days, to catch the culprits. Back in the 1960's-1980's they had a machine that started recording if you said certain words, now we got full time monitoring.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Not caring about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like
not caring about free speech because you have nothing to say

 

[Magic Carpet]

Not so much to say. Its more or less the same from Windows 10.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708

Applies to
Windows Server 2012 R2 Datacenter
Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard
Windows Server 2012 R2 Essentials
Windows Server 2012 R2 Foundation
Windows 8.1 Enterprise
Windows 8.1 Pro
Windows 8.1
Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1
Windows 7 Service Pack 1

The subject line is a bit off. This update is actually not applicable for Windows 8.0.

Not caring about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like
not caring about free speech because you have nothing to say

Agreed.

 

[Chiropteran]

Shocking news: iphone and android devices have had this "feature" for years. Funny how when Microsoft does something it suddenly becomes evil, while Apple and Google can do no wrong.

 

[TeknoBug]

Shocking news: iphone and android devices have had this "feature" for years. Funny how when Microsoft does something it suddenly becomes evil, while Apple and Google can do no wrong.

Yeah compare a cell phone to a personal computer, a lot more is done on a PC than on a cell phone.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Yeah compare a cell phone to a personal computer, a lot more is done on a PC than on a cell phone.

Arguing this point only...there's not a lot different. Actually...no, phones have MORE:

My phone call records.
All my emails.
All my texts.
My location at any given time.
The locations I've searched.
Passwords.
Browsing history.

Location, texts, phone calls and such are only on my phone.

 

[RampantAndroid]

Also, anecdotal evidence that Google is worse:

I have a website I made. I push my changes live to the AWS server using GIT. I have Master, Production and then Dev branches. I work in a dev branch, deploy it to AWS when ready, verify, push to master and then sync to production and pull production to my main website. (I have subdomains I can use to verify stuff)

I recently added a new feature set to my website, and to test it in production I added some get variables. Only I knew the variable names and their possible values. And I tested my website multiple times before AND after pushing all the way to production. Again: only I knew about these variables.

Now, my website also has some tracker logging enabled, where I can see the URL being requested, referrer and user agent string. A day or two after adding those GET variables to my website I suddenly saw a foreign IP address accessing them. I dug a little to see who it was and...well...hi there google bot. How did you know about those GET variables? Or, right. I tested my website in production using Chrome. Right...well, I already knew that Google tracked EVERY URL I visited. I did not however know that Google was mining that data to feed its spiders.

tl;dr: A lot of this stuff is about the data being logged, and how it's being used. Google is being pretty shady. I have no evidence of MS being shady.

 

[DustinBrowder]

They've always worked closely with DARPA and the NSA, so its nothing new from Microsoft, they are now just open about their spying and in your face spying on you!

They are trying to condition us to accept being spied on and all our data being stolen!

 

[WelshBloke]

Shocking news: iphone and android devices have had this "feature" for years. Funny how when Microsoft does something it suddenly becomes evil, while Apple and Google can do no wrong.

Didn't Microsoft have a big ad campaign about how they didn't do this?

 

[TeknoBug]

tl;dr: A lot of this stuff is about the data being logged, and how it's being used. Google is being pretty shady. I have no evidence of MS being shady.

Yes Google does a lot of this, which is why you shouldn't do too much personal stuff on your Android phone.

 

[Chiropteran]

Didn't Microsoft have a big ad campaign about how they didn't do this?

I don't know, I use ad-block.

If it's anything like the stuff in windows 10, you can probably disable it in settings or control panel anyway. I'm not too worried, we all know nobody seems to care when it is Apple tracking them.

 

[rchunter]

They've always worked closely with DARPA and the NSA, so its nothing new from Microsoft, they are now just open about their spying and in your face spying on you!

They are trying to condition us to accept being spied on and all our data being stolen!

Thankfully I can afford multiple computers. My windows PC will probably end up being turned into nothing more than a glorified game console or if I need to run an Adobe product.. My Hauppauge Colossus 2 capture card needs windows also unfortunately. I'd love to run it in linux if I could.
Both my file servers are already running linux...

 

[WelshBloke]

I don't know, I use ad-block.

If it's anything like the stuff in windows 10, you can probably disable it in settings or control panel anyway. I'm not too worried, we all know nobody seems to care when it is Apple tracking them.

Maybe we need to change the logo on the mug now?