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sunzt

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The terminology suddenly got real popular with mainstream society and everyone is using it left and right to describe anything that they can't explain. Everyone acts as if it's suddenly the newest latest and greatest concept ever.

Where the hell have all these people been? Pretty much any service or application delivered to you from a remote location is "the cloud". Severs are just clouds themselves and the internet is the uber cloud. Any techie would know that cloud services have been around for a while now. I blame Windows with their "yay cloud" ads...
 
yllus

yllus

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sunzt said:
Where the hell have all these people been? Pretty much any service or application delivered to you from a remote location is "the cloud". Severs are just clouds themselves and the internet is the uber cloud. Any techie would know that cloud services have been around for a while now. I blame Windows with their "yay cloud" ads...
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That isn't true. The proper definition of "the cloud" would involve your services coming from an indeterminate location as opposed to a specific/individual server. For instance, when I deploy a website to Amazon's cloud services, I don't really care where that server is located. I tell it to power up ten web servers and it does just that.

Realistically you end up picking what zone and what data centre your new server instances will reside in, but the point stands.
 
Gibson486

Gibson486

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I find it weird, but is just a buzzword to make companies seem more advanced than they really are.

I used to design network architectures and the internet was always represented with a cloud on the diagram. This was before those "yay cloud" ads.
 
AstroManLuca

AstroManLuca

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Numenorean said:
TO THE CLOUD!!

urg
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The funny thing is at least some of those ads completely screw up the meaning of "The Cloud." Watching recorded TV for instance. It's stored on your home computer, which acts as a server that can be accessed from other computers. Not the cloud.

I interpret the cloud as meaning data that is stored on an indeterminate server somewhere on the internet, NOT on a device/computer that you own. Gmail is a cloud service - my emails are on a Google server somewhere, not on my computer or phone.

This is like the word "lulz." It's entered the mainstream as a pure synonym of "lol," which is completely the wrong meaning. Lulz only refers to pranking someone over the internet and making them mad as hell, then laughing at the result. And lulz is a noun while lol is a verb.
 
Gibson486

Gibson486

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AstroManLuca said:
The funny thing is at least some of those ads completely screw up the meaning of "The Cloud." Watching recorded TV for instance. It's stored on your home computer, which acts as a server that can be accessed from other computers. Not the cloud.

I interpret the cloud as meaning data that is stored on an indeterminate server somewhere on the internet, NOT on a device/computer that you own. Gmail is a cloud service - my emails are on a Google server somewhere, not on my computer or phone.

This is like the word "lulz." It's entered the mainstream as a pure synonym of "lol," which is completely the wrong meaning. Lulz only refers to pranking someone over the internet and making them mad as hell, then laughing at the result. And lulz is a noun while lol is a verb.
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I think cloud is meant to mean that where ever you are, you can get the data you need. You just hook to the cloud and you can get whether or not it's on your remote computer or some random server. It sounds dumb to us because lots of us already have done the remote desktop thing or already found ways to access our computer as a server. However, MS has made it "so easy" now.
 
AstroManLuca

AstroManLuca

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Gibson486 said:
I think cloud is meant to mean that where ever you are, you can get the data you need. You just hook to the cloud and you can get whether or not it's on your remote computer or some random server. It sounds dumb to us because lots of us already have done the remote desktop thing or already found ways to access our computer as a server. However, MS has made it "so easy" now.
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Yeah, I guess that makes sense. It's not exactly a technical term so it could mean just about anything.

It does make sense, though, to consider any sort of streaming to devices from a central server (be it your home PC, a home server, or a server somewhere on the internet) to be cloud streaming. I think the core idea is that you shouldn't have to worry about keeping your data synced to all of your laptops, netbooks, tablets, phones, and set-top boxes.
 
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Minerva

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Yeah so everyone will be walking around with 'roid tabs with nothing but an OS and IP with everything floating in a virtual namespace. Sounds like a recipe for jitter, lag, and test for patience.

No thanks, I'd rather have everything stored locally with microsecond access times. So what if I'm tied to it? That's what VPNs are for!
 
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sdifox said:
cue batman soundbit for scene/location transition
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Even better....

TO THE CLOUD!!

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Numenorean

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AstroManLuca said:
Yeah, I guess that makes sense. It's not exactly a technical term so it could mean just about anything.

It does make sense, though, to consider any sort of streaming to devices from a central server (be it your home PC, a home server, or a server somewhere on the internet) to be cloud streaming. I think the core idea is that you shouldn't have to worry about keeping your data synced to all of your laptops, netbooks, tablets, phones, and set-top boxes.
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The really dumb one is the picture taking mom doing the whole TO THE CLOUD!! thing, and she edits a photo and replaces the heads with ones from others.....

Uhhh....how is that involving the could AT ALL?
 
sunzt

sunzt

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AstroManLuca said:
Yeah, I guess that makes sense. It's not exactly a technical term so it could mean just about anything.

It does make sense, though, to consider any sort of streaming to devices from a central server (be it your home PC, a home server, or a server somewhere on the internet) to be cloud streaming. I think the core idea is that you shouldn't have to worry about keeping your data synced to all of your laptops, netbooks, tablets, phones, and set-top boxes.
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And this is how the term gets warped and misused. Like yllus said earlier, the cloud is specifically in reference to an indiscriminate location or source. Think "Cloud Computing". If the streaming source is always sent to you from the same device that you know and maintain then it's a direct remote connection to your media device.

The cloud version would be streaming something from an unknown physical location that wouldn't always be the same.
 
Schadenfroh

Schadenfroh

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SocialCloudNetworking.Com

Let us register this company name and launch an IPO without any real business plan and see what happens!
 
Spikesoldier

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Numenorean said:
The really dumb one is the picture taking mom doing the whole TO THE CLOUD!! thing, and she edits a photo and replaces the heads with ones from others.....

Uhhh....how is that involving the could AT ALL?
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pictures stored on the cloud from other computers

aka shes too lazy or not hip enough for windows home server
 
sdifox

sdifox

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Numenorean said:
The really dumb one is the picture taking mom doing the whole TO THE CLOUD!! thing, and she edits a photo and replaces the heads with ones from others.....

Uhhh....how is that involving the could AT ALL?
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probably because she was using something hosted somewhere to edit the picture?
 
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LumbergTech

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Its just a sign that society has shifted to a new way of doing things and is comfortable with it..Yes its been going on for a while, but now everyone is in on the gig
 
yllus

yllus

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Gibson486 said:
I think cloud is meant to mean that where ever you are, you can get the data you need. You just hook to the cloud and you can get whether or not it's on your remote computer or some random server.
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You're right about this, and really the common usage of the term is what will come to define it, but I'll still probably go to my grave insisting that indeterminateness is a key quality for the cloud.
 
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