Teens to be charged as adults in rock-overpass death.

[SNC]

Dude over 9000 people have died to opioid overdose in the course of just a few months and we never lock up the doctor. Seems to me doctors kill more people than anybody else so let's just lock up all the doctors for life. Hell even Ronald Reagan was the direct result of thousands of dead people with all the cocaine he and Olley North brought into the states to fund gorilla warfare which became our biggest enemies after they won. Why is it only poor people have to face jail time and why are they given the toughest sentences and more in fines, requirements and fines/fees?

You assume I don't agree with you, why is that?

 

[bshole]

I stopped reading because if the reas of what you typed is a stupid unresponsive as this, there is no need. NOW, if the 3 of us were at the bar watching the driver drink to the point of impairment, hand him the keys, get into the truck with him as the driver, and allow him to pull out and drive while not stopping him and he killed a pedestrian - then yes we should be charged. I don't know why are feel the need to make up a seriously flawed scenario that has nothing to do with the current subject, Are you attempting to point out a flaw in my thinking?

Why not arrest and charge everybody in the bar who witnessed him drinking?

 

[SNC]

Why not arrest and charge everybody in the bar who witnessed him drinking?

Only if your OK with arresting and charging the family priest, teacher, nanny and landscaper from each of the families involved. Your analogy sucked, there is no way to make sitting on a bench while someone else unbeknownst to you drives drunk, the same as standing next to some handing them things to throw they helped carry. Instead of trying to make other things sound more heinous, how about just looking at what was actually done.

 

[bshole]

Only if your OK with arresting and charging the family priest, teacher, nanny and landscaper from each of the families involved. Your analogy sucked, there is no way to make sitting on a bench while someone else unbeknownst to you drives drunk, the same as standing next to some handing them things to throw they helped carry. Instead of trying to make other things sound more heinous, how about just looking at what was actually done.

You sit in the bar and watch him get drunk. You and the rest of the bar watch him and his buddies get kicked out of the bar for drunken behavior. You all watch them crawl into a car and drive away. You do nothing. They drive into into a bus of nuns, the bus explodes and burns all the nuns alive. There is nobody to prosecute because the drunken driver and his passengers are all dead as well. I suspect you and those like you would attempt to criminally prosecute the bar patrons.

I don't think it is illegal not to intervene when somebody else is breaking the law. Your arguments struck me as having the connotation that non-intervention should be a criminal offense in itself. I could have interpreted your message incorrectly.

 

[SNC]

You sit in the bar and watch him get drunk. You and the rest of the bar watch him and his buddies get kicked out of the bar for drunken behavior. You all watch them crawl into a car and drive away. You do nothing. They drive into into a bus of nuns, the bus explodes and burns all the nuns alive. There is nobody to prosecute because the drunken driver and his passengers are all dead as well. I suspect you and those like you would attempt to criminally prosecute the bar patrons.

I don't think it is illegal not to intervene when somebody else is breaking the law. Your arguments struck me as having the connotation that non-intervention should be a criminal offense in itself. I could have interpreted your message incorrectly.

WHF are you going on about?

 

[bshole]

WHF are you going on about?

This...

NOW, if the 3 of us were at the bar watching the driver drink to the point of impairment, hand him the keys, get into the truck with him as the driver, and allow him to pull out and drive while not stopping him and he killed a pedestrian - then yes we should be charged.

Is very close to this......

You sit in the bar and watch him get drunk. You and the rest of the bar watch him and his buddies get kicked out of the bar for drunken behavior. You all watch them crawl into a car and drive away. You do nothing. They drive into into a bus of nuns, the bus explodes and burns all the nuns alive. There is nobody to prosecute because the drunken driver and his passengers are all dead as well. I suspect you and those like you would attempt to criminally prosecute the bar patrons.

 

[SNC]

This...


Is very close to this......

Not even remotely!

 

[bshole]

Not even remotely!

For me they are nearly the same thing and I would prosecute nobody but the driver in either scenario.

When I went to college, everybody in the car was drunk every time. Times have definitely changed since then.

A quick google search gave me this:

In the vast majority of cases, a passenger in a vehicle driven by a drunk driver will not risk being charged with a crime. Under the law, one cannot be prosecuted for aiding or abetting a DUI offense. ... There are some limited circumstances where a passenger in a vehicle could be charged with driving under the influence.