justoh
Diamond Member
Easy peasy
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Easy peasy
I tried, I copied the Google link, not the address of the page. Its stupid that a google search gives me the mobile link, instead of letting the linked website switch me.
I'll try to remember to go to the bottom of Wikipedia and choose the desktop version next time.
Ichinisan
Lifer
I know what you mean, but these two are a joy to watch.
Sonikku
Lifer
I have a top loader NES that practically eliminates all the issues with cartridges not working. I think it stems from those old boxy units required the carts to be in perfect sync with some security chip at all times to function. Coupled with dust, the chips being bent when pressed down etc. and before you knew it you had problems. Sad thing is the famicom didn't have all of these issues; they're solely the result of Nintendo feeling the need to redesign the look of the unit to trojan horse the product into American stores.
CZroe
Lifer
Yep. I have a copy of TMNT with corroded pins that only works in a top-loader. Even then, it requires the left side to be lifted slightly, but this cartridge literally looks like it was buried outside and rained on for years. It was corroded inside and out. I could barely even identify it.
Ichinisan
Lifer
In Japan, the model 2 had composite output and was called the "Famicom AV." In the US, it's RF-only. Also, 99% of USA units have a poorly-engineered circuit board that had horrible interference in the RF output. It's a real shame.
A cheap replacement cartridge connector makes the USA model 1 work well. Combined with composite AV output, that's the best way to go (without RGB mod).
HumblePie
Lifer
Yah. Beat it and 2 as well. Got 2 for my 10th birthday and crushed it within 2 days during a weekend sleep over I had for my birthday with friends.
justoh
Diamond Member
The original NES was never sold where I grew up, but we had lots of chinese made clones, all of them top-loading, with a lot of multi-game cartridges (18 in 1, 64 in 1, etc), so I was able to cheaply own pretty much all nes games. We also had shit like the "siga miga siga" genesis/mega drive clones.
We later got UK versions of the mega drive and snes, but they were PAL, which was like 20% slower than NTSC. I remember when I saw sonic on a genesis, and the difference was staggering, so I got US systems from then on. I had a US imported SNES and this mushroom shaped add-on device that sat on top, which was basically just a floppy drive and memory. You could copy any cartridge to floppies and then load them into memory to play. I probably had all the snes games also. The biggest games I remember was stuff like mortal kombat 2, at 24mbit, which is barely over 2 floppies. Most were much, much smaller.
Something like that. Sometimes it's good growing up in a third-world shithole where nobody cares about piracy.
We later got UK versions of the mega drive and snes, but they were PAL, which was like 20% slower than NTSC. I remember when I saw sonic on a genesis, and the difference was staggering, so I got US systems from then on. I had a US imported SNES and this mushroom shaped add-on device that sat on top, which was basically just a floppy drive and memory. You could copy any cartridge to floppies and then load them into memory to play. I probably had all the snes games also. The biggest games I remember was stuff like mortal kombat 2, at 24mbit, which is barely over 2 floppies. Most were much, much smaller.
Something like that. Sometimes it's good growing up in a third-world shithole where nobody cares about piracy.
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Red Squirrel
No Lifer
The original NES was never sold where I grew up, but we had lots of chinese made clones, all of them top-loading, with a lot of multi-game cartridges (18 in 1, 64 in 1, etc), so I was able to cheaply own pretty much all nes games. We also had shit like the "siga miga siga" genesis/mega drive clones.
We later got UK versions of the mega drive and snes, but they were PAL, which was like 20% slower than NTSC. I remember when I saw sonic on a genesis, and the difference was staggering, so I got US systems from then on. I had a US imported SNES and this mushroom shaped add-on device that sat on top, which was basically just a floppy drive and memory. You could copy any cartridge to floppies and then load them into memory to play. I probably had all the snes games also. The biggest games I remember was stuff like mortal kombat 2, at 24mbit, which is barely over 2 floppies. Most were much, much smaller.
Something like that. Sometimes it's good growing up in a third-world shithole where nobody cares about piracy.
Wow that's pretty cool! I'm guessing that's how they also make "roms" for emulators? That SNES also looks very different. Did not realize they had different versions for different countries.
justoh
Diamond Member
Yeah i noticed that too. It looks like a super famicom, but it says super nintendo on it, so i don't know what's up with that. It's not what I had. Had a regular US snes as pictured below:
Also had a us genesis, 32x, sega cd, and a japanese saturn. NiGHTS was the best game ever.
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HumblePie
Lifer
That looks similar to the Famicon. Which is the SNES version Japan used. I had several Famicon games that I used on my SNES, but I had to use an adapter to play them. Or file down the outside of the cartridge edges a bit to get them to fit.
justoh
Diamond Member
here is the difference between famicon and snes.
I figured it out. It's the PAL version of the SNES, explaining the super nintendo label on what looks like a famicom. But PAL was 50hz instead of 60hz or something. The colors were better, but it was slow as fuck. The snes was already slower than the genesis, so i wanted ntsc. That's why you got a lot of rpgs and shit on the snes, and games like sonic on the genesis. Slower processor. Graphics and sound were much better on snes though.
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Ns1
No Lifer
here is the difference between famicon and snes.
sooooooooooooo many good memories here.
justoh
Diamond Member
If you're interested in regional differences, check out the difference between sonic cd US vs UK/JAP. All the music was changed, not just the intro. I much preferred the uk/jap version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UswLbZIxavM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WeKBOPcyJk
Sadly, i still remember all the words to both versions.
zone example (quartz quadrant, present)
us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv7VQ4_n_mA
vs uk/jap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvqd4PieaFc
US versions so awful. bit ot but oh well.
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CZroe
Lifer
That's a Bung Doctor SF/Professor SF. There were lots of those things sold in the US too but Nintendo was always suing US distributors and eventually got them blocked in US Customs by court-order in the N64/GB era. I was a DrV64, DrV64jr512, and GB Xchanger user despite being a collector. Actually, I still have/use that stuff. 🙂 One of those distributors, Carl Industries, even advertised in Popular Science Magazine!The original NES was never sold where I grew up, but we had lots of chinese made clones, all of them top-loading, with a lot of multi-game cartridges (18 in 1, 64 in 1, etc), so I was able to cheaply own pretty much all nes games. We also had shit like the "siga miga siga" genesis/mega drive clones.
We later got UK versions of the mega drive and snes, but they were PAL, which was like 20% slower than NTSC. I remember when I saw sonic on a genesis, and the difference was staggering, so I got US systems from then on. I had a US imported SNES and this mushroom shaped add-on device that sat on top, which was basically just a floppy drive and memory. You could copy any cartridge to floppies and then load them into memory to play. I probably had all the snes games also. The biggest games I remember was stuff like mortal kombat 2, at 24mbit, which is barely over 2 floppies. Most were much, much smaller.
Something like that. Sometimes it's good growing up in a third-world shithole where nobody cares about piracy.
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CZroe
Lifer
You could dump the cart, yes, but you could also dump the ROM chips themselves in any EPROM programmer. Doctor SF dumps were usually split to fit on floppies, byte-swapped, hacked/patched to defeat copy protections, etc and, thus, not suitable for distribution without knowing what you were doing.
Heck, you could hotswap the ROM chips into some PC motherboards and dump them with special applications. I have a Japanese Super Famicom in addition to several US SNES consoles. The Japanese one is the same design. The US design was made to discourage people from setting drinks on it because a large number of NES front-loaders were damaged from spilled drinks in the US.
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CZroe
Lifer
Super Famicom. Not "Famicon." "Famicom" mean "Family Computer," which is their version of the NES.here is the difference between famicon and snes.
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justoh
Diamond Member
I guess by the time the n64 came out it was too late. Didn't know it was available everywhere.
I think i had this specific device. Super UFO or something. Definitely didn't have a side facing cartridge port like the other one. Looks about right. Donkey Kong Country had some really good graphics and music. Was also a 24mb cartridge.
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I HATED Dragon's Lair...it was the perfect "Oh you didn't do that move at the EXACT right moment...here is the cut scene where you die".
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