Teenagers arent ready to be parents

shortylickens

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They dont know how to lie under pressure.


https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...nally-leaving-2-toddlers-in-hot-car/22136022/
http://www.newser.com/story/244085/cops-mom-left-kids-in-hot-car-lied-about-their-deaths.html


Amanda Hawkins, 19, and a 16-year-old male, who was not identified, brought the toddlers to a hospital in Kerrville on Wednesday and claimed Hawkins' daughter collapsed after smelling flowers,


REALLY?
You honestly think no one is gonna notice the heat stroke? You fuckin STUPID or what?
 

ch33zw1z

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Another sad story. Just what this world needs.

I'm glad they're stupid, so it's easier to ascertain the scenario.
 

lxskllr

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Teenagers The stupid Teenagers aren't ready to be parents. Most of the human population was created by teenagers. Hmm...
 

Paratus

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Sometimes parents actually can forget their children in a hot car, (yes even parents who love their children). In those cases I don't believe legal punishment is warranted

This is NOT that. Punish the parent to the fullest extent of the law.
 

bshole

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Sometimes parents actually can forget their children in a hot car, (yes even parents who love their children). In those cases I don't believe legal punishment is warranted

This is NOT that. Punish the parent to the fullest extent of the law.

Evolution is action. Parent organisms that don't care for their offspring go extinct.

I would give the woman option of being irreversibly neutered with a greatly reduced/eliminated jail sentence or getting the standard jail sentence.
 

UglyCasanova

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I do agree that parents can forget their kids in the car. Those without kids think how is that even possible? I don't have an answer other than it just is. When busy your mind can get focused on one thing and you go about doing that and simply forget. I'm not saying that is or isn't what happened here, just that things happen. It's a sad thing indeed, I feel for the family.
 

Younigue

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I'm fairly certain statistically speaking that in cases such as these it's rarely teen parents being this negligent or abusive. Or at least the ones I hear about the parents are supposedly full grown ass adults.

Agreed, teens aren't ready to be parents. Hell full grown adults aren't ready but hopefully at least they are more equipped financially, intellectually as well as more stable mentally and with their living situation.
 

fskimospy

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I do agree that parents can forget their kids in the car. Those without kids think how is that even possible? I don't have an answer other than it just is. When busy your mind can get focused on one thing and you go about doing that and simply forget. I'm not saying that is or isn't what happened here, just that things happen. It's a sad thing indeed, I feel for the family.

Sometimes I think about things like this. I don't have kids, probably never will, but I can totally see how terrifying it could be as a parent to have a momentary lapse and have that lead to disaster.
 

Younigue

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Some aren't, some are great at it.
Well, my niece is 20 and her son just turned 4. She and my great nephew's father (also 20) are doing an amazing job. They keep impressing me. I was rather disappointed that she had a child at 16 but out of 13 nieces and nephews and my own generation, she's the only teen pregnancy in my family so that's something I guess.
 

Younigue

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Sometimes I think about things like this. I don't have kids, probably never will, but I can totally see how terrifying it could be as a parent to have a momentary lapse and have that lead to disaster.
Being responsible for another human being seems the definition of inanity to me. I thank everything good in the world that I wasn't capable of having children.
 

UglyCasanova

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Well, my niece is 20 and her son just turned 4. She and my great nephew's father (also 20) are doing an amazing job. They keep impressing me. I was rather disappointed that she had a child at 16 but out of 13 nieces and nephews and my own generation, she's the only teen pregnancy in my family so that's something I guess.


There are good parents and bad parents of all kinds of ages. It might make more sense financially when they're older but a 25+ year old isn't necessarily going to be a better parent just because. The older person is much more likely to be married or at least in a stable relationship though and I think that makes all of the difference in the world. Glad your niece is doing good, try not to be too disappointed in the teen pregnancy though (it's a stigma they have to work through) and be happy that she's a good mom. :beercheers:
 
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NAC4EV

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Left in a hot car intentionally for hours by their teenage mom who ignored their cries and then lied to investigators about what happened.


IMO
Age has little to do with this tragedy.
Murder has.
 
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UglyCasanova

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Left in a hot car intentionally for hours by their teenage mom who ignored their cries and then lied to investigators about what happened.


IMO
Age has little to do with this tragedy.
Murder has.


I didn't read through the link, if that's what happened she should get the death penalty.
 
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Teenagers arent ready to be teenagers let alone parents.

Truth.

I think it's the entitlement generation that is coddled their whole lives. Then reality sets in, they make a huge mistake like getting pregnant in their teens and the only knowledge they have for home maintenance is how to unplug a toilet, the most they know how to cook is ramen, and the only job they can perform is taking orders at fast food. That's simply a recipe for disaster.

A teenager 30-50 years ago would be an entirely different story.
 
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Younigue

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There are good parents and bad parents of all kinds of ages. It might make more sense financially when they're older but a 25+ year old isn't necessarily going to be a better parent just because. The older person is much more likely to be married or at least in a stable relationship though and I think that makes all of the difference in the world. Glad your niece is doing good, try not to be too disappointed in the teen pregnancy though (it's a stigma they have to work through) and be happy that she's a good mom. :beercheers:

Agreed. Age has little to do with it. My mom was built to be a parent (she had her failings but all parents do). My father probably never should have had children (7 of them) <--- to this day still the most self-involved person I personally know.

My disappointment isn't in her, though I was for a minute. She had high hopes of being a model. I'm not saying she couldn't still pursue such a thing but life and responsibility and money are a very real thing that she is taking very seriously. I am proud of her. Though it freaked me out to see my twin brother as a Grandpa at 42.
 

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The issue appears to me that it is on everyone else.

Mother and Aunt, Grandparents (considered to care) => nothing
Fathers => nothing
The Party (said bring the kids in(one of them EVEN WENT out!!)) => nothing
"Her Friend" (considered CPS (after the first car incident)) => nothing
etc.

A clear failure of the community (buddy?) system in that region. Literally, no one that should have cared throughout the mental instability of this situation did anything!

This is a clear case of PPD or TMNB(Teen Mom related Nervous Breakdown).
- Low-income + two children.
- High stress -> Stocker(store related), Eviction, Teenage-related issues, Lack of currency, etc.
- Criticism on social media, etc. More criticism, less actual physical support.
 
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NAC4EV

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You people should read the internet.

Hawkins left the girls in an SUV from 9pm Tuesday to about noon the next day while she spent time with friends inside a Kerrville home; the windows were cracked for part of that time, and temps reached about 85 degrees with 96% humidity.
KSAT quotes Hierholzer as saying one of the friends Hawkins was with "told her they could hear the kids crying out in the car and told her to bring them in." She allegedly responded that the girls were fine and would soon cry themselves to sleep. Upon finding the girls unconscious, Hawkins allegedly put them in a cold bath "and did not immediately want to take the girls to the hospital because she did not want to get into trouble

Amanda & Isaac Hawkins Were Investigated by Child Protective Services Last Year & Investigators Say It Wasn’t the First Time She Left Her Kids in the SUV
 

Sunburn74

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Teenagers The stupid Teenagers aren't ready to be parents. Most of the human population was created by teenagers. Hmm...
I'm sure if you graphed out historically the societal average mother's age at time of first birth and average societal individual lifespan you'll see a strong correlation.

Ie in the middle ages yes a lot of teens were pregnant and giving birth but at the same time people were only living to 30 suggesting that it really wasn't working out all that well for society.