Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

[maziwanka]

Not at all....... The defense can easily show that there could've been a shotgun since the durango felon crew left the scene (after dunn left) then circled a parking lot next door. It's not even a stretch, and no it doesn't require any witness or video, or anything past what we already know.

i love how you want to stretch things so badly just to exonerate this guy.

 

[They Live]

Nope.

If there were verbal threats to his life were made it's still a good shoot by law. There was also a clear disparity of force (4 against 1).

Verbal, believable, threats to life plus disparity of force = OK to shoot.

Thus far, there is no evidence of verbal threats outside of Dunn's account.

 

[Geosurface]

Keep in mind, driving around a parking lot next door is in no way helping Jordan Davis as he bleeds to death. Or, if he died instantly, I'm not thinking this was a car full of pre-med students or something... they had every reason to believe he needed to get medical attention immediately.

So, how does circling a parking lot then driving back to the gas station help their friend who just got shot?

Driving off to try to get to a hospital ASAP is one thing, and would be completely understandable... driving to a nearby shopping area and doing some circles of it's parking lot THEN returning to exactly the same parking spot at the place you were before, and apparently (if the other poster who said this is right) lying to police about this later?????

FISHY. AS. FUCK.

If it can be shown definitively that they lied about driving off and coming back, to cops... I would consider that almost as good as finding the shotgun. Which they will never, ever do.

Those guys came back that night and fished the damn thing back out of the bushes or trash can they tossed it in before cops ever heard that they should even be CONSIDERING searching for such a thing there.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

you are such a fucking tool. because you don't like certain styles of music, it's dumbass gangster racist/violent crap? As if that would even add to any excuse for Dunn to fucking shoot a kid.

Actually I listen to quite a lot of hip hop.


And they weren't shot for playing loud music, they were shot because they pointed a shotgun at someone who had the gall to ask them to turn down the music. They got shot because they felt the need to threaten someone's life over being "disrespected". Cause you know the thug life, you can't have someone disrespect you in front of your crew.

 

[spidey07]

Thus far, there is no evidence of verbal threats outside of Dunn's account.

You don't know that at all.

 

[They Live]

You don't know that at all.

That's why I've said "thus far".

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I can say with 100% certainty that the durango felon crew leaving the scene will instill a LOT of doubt with a jury as far as the legitimacy of that shotgun.

 

[They Live]

Actually I listen to quite a lot of hip hop.


And they weren't shot for playing loud music, they were shot because they pointed a shotgun at someone who had the gall to ask them to turn down the music. They got shot because they felt the need to threaten someone's life over being "disrespected". Cause you know the thug life, you can't have someone disrespect you in front of your crew.

Well, this is it folks.

We have an eyewitness here who saw it all. Drop the charges immediately.

 

[soundforbjt]

You don't know that at all.

I believe discovery evidence has been released.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

I believe discovery evidence has been released.

It doesn't matter, if this goes to trial I assure you that the defense is going to be all over them leaving the scene. The verbal threats likely won't even be a huge factor since there are no outside witnesses.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the durango felon crew rats everyone out to get a shorter sentence.

 

[Geosurface]

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the durango felon crew rats everyone out to get a shorter sentence.

Nah, in the past maybe. Nowadays these thugs know they have the full support of society at large, and there is no willpower of society to exert pressure on them...

they'll be handled with kid gloves and the only person to ever look at them with a skeptical eye will be the defense attorney.

Dunn is done.

 

[maziwanka]

We have eye witness testimony of a weapon pointed at the victim who fired in self defense.

haha - you're not serious are you?

 

[maziwanka]

As opposed to the felon in possession of a firearm in the car and other teens who would be faced with capital murder of their accomplice have no reason to lie about the shotgun they pointed at their victim, right?

do you know what capital murder is?

 

[spidey07]

haha - you're not serious are you?

Do you disagree with my statement of fact, backed up by evidence?

 

[They Live]

Angela Corey has a 90% success rate in prosecutions: http://www.coj.net/mayor/docs/the-ja...n-of-jj-2.aspx

She gave Marissa Alexander and Ronald Thompson 20 years each: Angela Corey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

She is known as the Sunshine State's toughest prosecutor: Who Is Angela Corey? | Loop21

As state attorney, Corey has avoided punting cases to a grand jury.
With a reputation for being the Sunshine State’s toughest prosecutor, the 57-year-old Republican oversaw a first-degree murder indictment for the youngest person to ever be charged as an adult in Florida. (NYDN)
According to analysis by Florida Times-Union, Corey has been the toughest on juvenile crime. She doubled the number of juvenile felony cases in her tenure. (FTU)
The county that Corey’s office oversees has the highest incarceration rate of any jurisdiction with a population over 500,000, according to a new study by the University of North Florida. (CNN)

Chances are, both Zimmerman and Dunn are fucked.

 

[spidey07]

do you know what capital murder is?

Yes, if you are committing a felony and a person dies because of your felony you can be held for capital murder.

The accomplices to the threat on this mans life (a felony).

Or maybe I'm mixing them up...they would be guilty of felony murder. But if somebody dies while you are committing a crime, everybody can be charged with murder. There have been plenty of many on one attacks where the victim fights back or shoots the assailants and the living ones are charged with murder.

 

[maziwanka]

And to address your edit, no trial...? You've gotta be kidding....


There is absolutely evidence that they had a gun. There is no reason whatsoever for them to have left the scene like that unless they were ditching a gun.


Come on... Give us a logical reason for a car with a felon and his friends to leave the scene of a shooting and then return. I could see them leaving, trying to find a hospital, getting lost and calling 911 again... But to drive around then drive BACK to the scene? They're covering something up.

there is only circumstantial evidence - and to be honest, it's very weak - they could have drove away to ditch drugs, for example, before calling the cops.

 

[maziwanka]

I believe the report said that Dunn left before the felon and his crew left, so your 'story' makes no sense.


Leaving the scene was stupid, but if he didn't think he hit anyone it isn't illegal in the great state of Florida.

right. nice one. i'm sure any normal person would do that after shooting up a car.

you refuse to actually see the evidence in front of you.

 

[maziwanka]

Actually I listen to quite a lot of hip hop.


And they weren't shot for playing loud music, they were shot because they pointed a shotgun at someone who had the gall to ask them to turn down the music. They got shot because they felt the need to threaten someone's life over being "disrespected". Cause you know the thug life, you can't have someone disrespect you in front of your crew.

good for you. you've already accepted your version of the events that night despite only (weak) circumstantial evidence supporting it.

 

[sourn]

I'm bored, why don't you amuse me and explain how you came to the bolded conclusion. Mind you I'm not going to listen to what you say one bit, but it will be delightful to see your true colors come out even further.

What you quoted is true. Or do you think that black people wouldn't think I was some inbred hick if i wore white sheets around town while chanting. Give me a fucking break idiot.

As far as the articles goes, they both say different shit. So until the facts are in I'm not gonna judge. If the kids didn't have weapons in the car then obviously what he did was wrong, and he should get life for it.

If they did find weapons then it becomes a totally different matter.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

right. nice one. i'm sure any normal person would do that after shooting up a car.

you refuse to actually see the evidence in front of you.

???


This entire case revolves around the durango felon crew pointing a shotgun out of the window.

Immediately after the incident, they leave the scene and circle a parking lot next door.


I hate to keep harping on it, but a jury of 12? And you think not 1 is going to see what's going on? LOL.

 

[maziwanka]

Do you disagree with my statement of fact, backed up by evidence?

i laugh because your support is the person on fucking trial

 

[spidey07]

i laugh because your support is the person on fucking trial

Also known as...

EVIDENCE and EYE WITNESSS

 

[SpatiallyAware]

i laugh because your support is the person on fucking trial

What do you not understand about innocent until proven guilty?

Just because someone is on trial for defending themselves doesn't automatically mean you should demonize them, as many of you are doing here.

 

[maziwanka]

It doesn't matter, if this goes to trial I assure you that the defense is going to be all over them leaving the scene. The verbal threats likely won't even be a huge factor since there are no outside witnesses.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the durango felon crew rats everyone out to get a shorter sentence.

honestly - you guys are such fucking tools. your method of arguing is to use generalizations. but you know what - you're right that the prosecution will have to work on the jury to get them comfortable with this because juries are fucking idiots