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Teenager shot dead after playing loud music

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"That's not what happened in this case, stop making shit up."

That was your first sentence and then you made shit up.

We'll see how this plays out, perhaps you should place some bets on it? 😀

And that's why spidey is very much under suspicion of being of being a parody account... no one in this world is this fucking stupid and so overtly trying to contradict every thing they type out in their very next sentence all the time. He tries way too hard to be full of shit with his obvious lies...
 
No. What's most likely is thugs tried to be thugs and threaten the wrong guy.

That is highly much more likely.

So you believe they had a shotgun pulled on him and he was able to grab his gun and get off 9 shots without them firing back once? Yeah, that's a very believable scenario.

I was being sarcastic at the end, but you probably couldn't figure that out.
 
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So you believe they had a shotgun pulled on him and he was able to grab his gun and get off 9 shots without them firing back once? Yeah, that's a very believable scenario.

I was being sarcastic at the end, but you probably wouldn't tell.

Kids with a shotgun likely don't know how to use it. It's all for show.

They ran into somebody that knew how to operate his firearm. And operate them he did.

Are you going to be able to operate your show shotgun when I put 9 bullets your way in under 2 seconds? Your ass would be ducking for cover right quick.

Like I said. They wanted to play thugike they saw in movies where they show weapon and intimidate. It's worked before for them likely. They assaulted the wrong guy. Bet it won't happen again.
 
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So you believe they had a shotgun pulled on him and he was able to grab his gun and get off 9 shots without them firing back once? Yeah, that's a very believable scenario.

I was being sarcastic at the end, but you probably wouldn't tell.

You forgot they were also able to hide/get rid of the shotgun while the vehicle was still at the gas station with witnesses watching before the police came and impounded the vehicle.

And that Dunn was more than likely intoxicated coming back from his son's wedding and they went to the gas station so that his gf could pick-up wine to bring back to the hotel.
 
You forgot they were also able to hide/get rid of the shotgun while the vehicle was still at the gas station with witnesses watching before the police came and impounded the vehicle.

And that Dunn was more than likely intoxicated coming back from his son's wedding and they went to the gas station so that his gf could pick-up wine to bring back to the hotel.

Dunn is a white and apparently successful business man. The dead kid and his friends were black teens allegedly blasting music.

Because of these "facts", in the minds of some, the obvious conclusion is that Dunn is the victim, and these teens are all vicious thugs.
 
But there was no shotgun.

Didn't the guy recant and say it might have been a roll of TP they were pointing at him? Getting TP'ed would be horrifying. And I'm sure Spidey will chime in that in FL if you point a roll of toilet paper at a person they can shoot you and it'll be 100% justified.
 
Shame for the shooter he didn't kill everyone... this ain't Zimmerman who killed the only other eye witness.

This will teach middle-aged white vigilantes you can't go drinking... picking fights with kids... murdering one of them we he talks back to you... fleeing the scene... then pretend you saw a gun when questioned. Bad shoot... going to fry.
 
Well, I haven't been here long but...
There's no time like now to make enemies.

Fact: Racism is real and very much alive.
Fact: no one race is exempt from racism.
Fact: most "victims" of racism, actually, pull the racism card out of ignorance.
Fact: a lot of people own guns, both criminals, racists, and citizens alike.
Fact: only 12-13% of the American population is African American, while 40.1% of inmate population is African American.
Fact: blacks are six times more likely to be victims of violent crimes than their white counterparts.
Fact: blacks are eight times more likely to be perpetrators of violent crimes than their white counterparts.
Fact: a recent FBI and DOJ report shows that a black person commits a crime against a white person, at 39 times the rate of the opposite.

On Feb 27th, the day after the Trevon Martin shooting, two black males abducted and killed a white couple in Detroit. The victims were found bound, gagged, shot and burned beyond all recognition in an alley. Police are calling it a random thrill killing.
On Feb. 28, in Kansas City, Mo., two black teens attacked a 13-year-old white boy on his front porch as he was returning from school. They poured gasoline on him and set him on fire for no apparent reason, saying “You get what you deserve white boy!”
On March 14, a 20-year-old black man broke into the home of Bob and Nancy Straight in Tulsa, Okla. He raped the 85-year-old Mrs. Straight and then beat her to death. Then he shot 90-year-old Mr. Straight in the face with a pellet gun and broke his jaw and ribs. He died several days later. The thug stole $200, a TV set and their Dodge Neon, which he drove to a nearby house where he went to hide. The police spotted the stolen car in front of the house and arrested him.
On April 1, in Jackson, Miss., a 31-year-old black man broke into a house to rob it and found a white woman inside. He forced her to lie on the floor with a blanket over her head as he shot her in the back of the head, execution-style.
On April 5, in Tunica, Miss., a 34-year-old black man checked into a hotel with his pregnant 25-year-old white girlfriend and their one-year-old child. The next day the woman was found dead on the floor brutally mutilated and covered with blood, as was the one-year-old child. The knife was in the room.
On April 15, in Las Vegas, a 22-year-old black man raped a 38-year-old white woman and her 10-year-old daughter. He then killed them by smashing their skulls with a hammer.
On top of all these brutal murders there have been a number of “flash mob” attacks across the country where anywhere from half a dozen to as many as a hundred blacks gang up on innocent people and beat them senseless. In at least 12 of these cases documented, the blacks have cited revenge for the shooting of Martin as the motive for the savageries, although in many cases the victims were also robbed.
One of these attacks occurred in Norfolk, Va., where more than 30 blacks brutally beat a white couple as another 70 blacks watched and cheered them on, a typical phenomenon in these black-on-white “flash mob” attacks. Martin’s name came up as the excuse for the brutality. The couple actually worked for the main newspaper in town,The Virginian Pilot, which has direct political ties to the Obama administration. That publication could not even be bothered to report on the attack of its own employees for two weeks—and even then it was only as an opinion piece written by a friend of the couple.
The couple said the police officer who responded acted strangely. After having been viciously beaten, kicked in the face and dragged by her hair, the battered woman was told by the officer to “shut up and get in the car.” He did not record any names of witnesses and said the attackers were “probably juveniles anyway. What are we going to do? Find their parents and tell them?” Pointing to public housing in the area, he said large groups of “teenagers” look for trouble on the weekends. “It’s what they do,” he told the couple.


SO....
 
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Shame for the shooter he didn't kill everyone... this ain't Zimmerman who killed the only other eye witness.

This will teach middle-aged white vigilantes you can't go drinking... picking fights with kids... murdering one of them we he talks back to you... fleeing the scene... then pretend you saw a gun when questioned. Bad shoot... going to fry.

While I agree it was a bad shoot, I doubt anything will end up happening to him. He killed a black person, they're expendable. Now if he had been a black guy shooting a white teen? He would be up shits creek without a paddle.

to james7679 you'll fit in fine here, you Spidey, SA and a few others would make perfect BFF's. And I'm sure if you poke around on Google you could find more damning stories to post about black people that have absolutely nothing to do with this one.
 
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Yep.

And nothing to be found about the black woman who shot an unarmed white guy in Texas. Nothing.

Not a god damned thing.

Oh. And her shooting was totally justified. I tried to find anything about her grand jury hearing or indictment. Nothing.
 
Wow. I'm glad that we are all free to our thoughts and beliefs, but a thought.

If we could stick to the facts about what has, actually, been reported AND;
the RACE CARD PIMPS could quit calling everything and everyone RACIST, this thread could be MUCH more intelligible.
 
Well, I haven't been here long but...
There's no time like now to make enemies.

Fact: Racism is real and very much alive.
Fact: no one race is exempt from racism.
Fact: most "victims" of racism, actually, pull the racism card out of ignorance.
Fact: a lot of people own guns, both criminals, racists, and citizens alike.
Fact: only 12-13% of the American population is African American, while 40.1% of inmate population is African American.
Fact: blacks are six times more likely to be victims of violent crimes than their white counterparts.
Fact: blacks are eight times more likely to be perpetrators of violent crimes than their white counterparts.
Fact: a recent FBI and DOJ report shows that a black person commits a crime against a white person, at 39 times the rate of the opposite.

On Feb 27th, the day after the Trevon Martin shooting, two black males abducted and killed a white couple in Detroit. The victims were found bound, gagged, shot and burned beyond all recognition in an alley. Police are calling it a random thrill killing.
On Feb. 28, in Kansas City, Mo., two black teens attacked a 13-year-old white boy on his front porch as he was returning from school. They poured gasoline on him and set him on fire for no apparent reason, saying “You get what you deserve white boy!”
On March 14, a 20-year-old black man broke into the home of Bob and Nancy Straight in Tulsa, Okla. He raped the 85-year-old Mrs. Straight and then beat her to death. Then he shot 90-year-old Mr. Straight in the face with a pellet gun and broke his jaw and ribs. He died several days later. The thug stole $200, a TV set and their Dodge Neon, which he drove to a nearby house where he went to hide. The police spotted the stolen car in front of the house and arrested him.
On April 1, in Jackson, Miss., a 31-year-old black man broke into a house to rob it and found a white woman inside. He forced her to lie on the floor with a blanket over her head as he shot her in the back of the head, execution-style.
On April 5, in Tunica, Miss., a 34-year-old black man checked into a hotel with his pregnant 25-year-old white girlfriend and their one-year-old child. The next day the woman was found dead on the floor brutally mutilated and covered with blood, as was the one-year-old child. The knife was in the room.
On April 15, in Las Vegas, a 22-year-old black man raped a 38-year-old white woman and her 10-year-old daughter. He then killed them by smashing their skulls with a hammer.
On top of all these brutal murders there have been a number of “flash mob” attacks across the country where anywhere from half a dozen to as many as a hundred blacks gang up on innocent people and beat them senseless. In at least 12 of these cases documented, the blacks have cited revenge for the shooting of Martin as the motive for the savageries, although in many cases the victims were also robbed.
One of these attacks occurred in Norfolk, Va., where more than 30 blacks brutally beat a white couple as another 70 blacks watched and cheered them on, a typical phenomenon in these black-on-white “flash mob” attacks. Martin’s name came up as the excuse for the brutality. The couple actually worked for the main newspaper in town,The Virginian Pilot, which has direct political ties to the Obama administration. That publication could not even be bothered to report on the attack of its own employees for two weeks—and even then it was only as an opinion piece written by a friend of the couple.
The couple said the police officer who responded acted strangely. After having been viciously beaten, kicked in the face and dragged by her hair, the battered woman was told by the officer to “shut up and get in the car.” He did not record any names of witnesses and said the attackers were “probably juveniles anyway. What are we going to do? Find their parents and tell them?” Pointing to public housing in the area, he said large groups of “teenagers” look for trouble on the weekends. “It’s what they do,” he told the couple.


SO....

What do those other cases have to do with this one?
 
QueBert, you may think of me what you will. But your ignorance is astounding. Do some research on the studies of racial psychology and read up on it's effect on ALL races. Again you know nothing at all about me or my beliefs. But the judgement from you, cast upon me, accusing myself and others of being racist shows how weak and ignorant you are. Anyone who pulls the race card is a coward. To scared and weak to stand on your own two and accept what you or anyone else has done to effect, both crime rates and psychology.
 
What do those cases have to do with this one? Nothing at all. But since all of the race pimps want to cite whitey as being a racist and even bring the Trevon Martin case into it, I just thought I'd show your ignorant, SHEEP ASSES, the other side of the race card. But who's keeping count ...

One more thing, talk trash to me, threaten my life, and point something at me that looks like a gun and the color of your skin before I shoot you dead won't matter. All I'll see is red.
 
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What do those cases have to do with this one? Nothing at all. But since all of the race pimps want to cite whitey as being a racist and even bring the Trevon Martin case into it, I just thought I'd show your ignorant, SHEEP ASSES, the other side of the race card. But who's keeping count ...

Really, is that what they want to do?

So you posted that rant because you wanted to show that blacks are bad as a people and thus we should put the blame on them just because of their skin colour?

I can't possibly imagine any other reason for posting that in this thread and your excuse that someone somewhere in this thread made a reference to Treyvon Martin flies as fucking low as right down the ditch.
 
QueBert, you may think of me what you will. But your ignorance is astounding. Do some research on the studies of racial psychology and read up on it's effect on ALL races. Again you know nothing at all about me or my beliefs. But the judgement from you, cast upon me, accusing myself and others of being racist shows how weak and ignorant you are. Anyone who pulls the race card is a coward. To scared and weak to stand on your own two and accept what you or anyone else has done to effect, both crime rates and psychology.

LOL you just got here and it already looks like you could give Spidey a run for his money. This "racial psychology" you bring up in an instance like this is called racial profiling. My neighborhood's predominately black and I don't think like Dunn did, that's an excuse and nothing more. Cruise threw P&N and read all of Spidey's messages and come back here saying we're unfair. There's a good reason Spidey's thought of here pretty much universally as a racist. I know you and I know your beliefs, and you will be belittled by everyone here who's not Spidey or the ones who are like him.

There's a reason that will happen, and while I'm sure you'll blame it on me not knowing you or something silly - that's not it.

I'm done conversing with you though, putting you on ignore as soon as I click save here.
 
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What do those cases have to do with this one? Nothing at all. But since all of the race pimps want to cite whitey as being a racist and even bring the Trevon Martin case into it, I just thought I'd show your ignorant, SHEEP ASSES, the other side of the race card. But who's keeping count ...

People are playing the race card because some people are referring to the young men as thugs without any legitimate evidence at all outside of the shooters account. It was also said that these young men were wearing hoodies in "deep cover", but we have no evidence they were wearing hoodies at all.

Had these been a group of white kids, there's a strong possibility that the word "thug" would have never been mentioned in this thread, unless the shooter was black, in which case, there's a high probability he would have been referred to as a thug.

The race card is often vastly overplayed but in this particular thread the use of it has been justifiable.
 
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What do those cases have to do with this one? Nothing at all. But since all of the race pimps want to cite whitey as being a racist and even bring the Trevon Martin case into it, I just thought I'd show your ignorant, SHEEP ASSES, the other side of the race card. But who's keeping count ...

One more thing, talk trash to me, threaten my life, and point something at me that looks like a gun and the color of your skin before I shoot you dead won't matter. All I'll see is red.

You can't shoot someone for talking trash to you unless a threat is involved.
 
One more thing, talk trash to me, threaten my life, and point something at me that looks like a gun and the color of your skin before I shoot you dead won't matter. All I'll see is red.

Just don't forget to plant the gun if the guy doesn't have a gun. Police can't find non-existing guns you see. 😀
 
welcome james7679

I agree with the points you're making, and I myself was very recently a die hard liberal, self-described "male feminist" Obama voter, Iraq war protester... you name it.

I haven't entirely stepped away from ALL of those beliefs, but I have gone through a profound re-evaluation of many of them recently.

I've finally allowed my beliefs to sync up with the realities of the world around me more, rather than just what I WANTED to be true.

The unfortunate reality is yes, black crime is disproportionate, and a huge problem. Being too afraid to talk about it honestly, won't solve it.

When people say "what do those cases have to do with this one?" it's a legitimate question and I intend to give a legitimate answer, even if it was directed at you.

Strictly speaking they may have no direct connection. It's possible these kids were good kids who just liked rap and this guy was a crazy piece of shit... we'll see as evidence emerges.

However, I believe the connection between all of those cases, to one another, and to Trayvon, and to many other things... is that blacks in the USA think of themselves much more as a group than whites do nowadays. Whites, and especially white males, are used to thinking of themselves as an individual. A self-contained person. They don't know what it's like, typically, to go through life viewing everything through the prism of your race, your gender, your sexuality, or all of the above.

Which makes it difficult for them to understand how certain ideas and feelings can spread like wildfire through more cohesive communities and groups.

It's much more possible for a large percentage of blacks to feel enraged over something like Trayvon, take it personally, put aside logic and switch to full emotion mode... and this can be very dangerous when it's a community that is already more fraught with criminality and violence.

There are always exceptions. The young men in this story may or may not have been such exceptions. Trayvon certainly doesn't seem to have been an exception.

So, as if a lot of the people in the stories you listed explicitly stating that another crime situation separated from them by time and distance was their motivation for doing what they did weren't enough... I'm attempting to make the connections even clearer.

Yes, there are criminal memes, and retaliatory strikes on unrelated parties that are seen to be representative targets of anger.

White males may want to rediscover how to think of themselves as members of a group, because everyone else is still doing it and failing to do it too, puts them at a huge disadvantage in many ways. The fruits of that disadvantage shall become more and more clear in the future.
 
QueBert, you may think of me what you will. But your ignorance is astounding. Do some research on the studies of racial psychology and read up on it's effect on ALL races. Again you know nothing at all about me or my beliefs. But the judgement from you, cast upon me, accusing myself and others of being racist shows how weak and ignorant you are. Anyone who pulls the race card is a coward. To scared and weak to stand on your own two and accept what you or anyone else has done to effect, both crime rates and psychology.

Right, we need more white people taking up their guns and taking back this country from the ni... er, I mean black people.
 
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