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Teen who robbed doughnut shop jailed after returning loot

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No Lifer
Remorseful doughnut shop robber: Saying he's sorry just isn't enough
Teen who robbed Hinsdale doughnut shop jailed after returning loot

By Jo Napolitano and Art Barnum | Tribune reporters
April 10, 2009

A Hinsdale teenager robbed his neighborhood Dunkin' Donuts of $167 this week only to return a day later to give back the cash along with an apology, authorities said.

But showing remorse didn't get Alex Holmes off the hook.

Holmes, 17, of the 500 block of Mills Street was later arrested and charged with one count of aggravated robbery. He was taken to DuPage County Jail, and Judge Peter Ostling set his bail Thursday at $75,000.

A surveillance camera captured both the robbery and the return of the loot.

"I've been in law enforcement 14 years, and I've never seen anything like it," said Detective Charles Leuver. "I'm speechless."

Holmes walked into the back door of the doughnut shop at 150 E. Ogden Ave. about 3 a.m. Tuesday with a BB gun that looked like the real thing, police said.

He asked a frightened female clerk to remove the money?$167, say DuPage County prosecutors?from the register before he fled on foot.

Nearly 24 hours later, Holmes walked in through the front door of the store and placed a stack of money on the counter along with a handwritten note saying he was sorry.

Holmes raised his hands to show the clerk?the same woman he robbed a day earlier?that he wasn't armed. He returned every cent, including some lose change.

Holmes asked the clerk for forgiveness. He tried to hug the woman, who speaks limited English, but she turned down the offer. Authorities say the woman was fearful because she didn't understand why Holmes came back.

"She didn't know what was going to happen," Leuver said. "He tried to hug her. She backed away. She was visibly upset."

Holmes left the store on a bicycle, heading south on York Road. Police saw him nearby and took him in for questioning.

The BB gun was found in his home, authorities said.

Police say they do not know why he had an apparent change of heart.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/...0apr10,0,2649328.story
 
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: newnameman
No, lock him up.
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and throw away the key?
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I'm conflicted. I don't want to pay $30,000/yr/inmate jailed by a broken system but I don't want worthless pieces of garbage like this on the street either. Deport them to Greenland or something.
 
I'd say just put him on probation. He returned it, now if he doesn't screw up again, he's fine, if he does screw up again, he's going to jail for a while.
 
Isn't the point of putting people in jail, that they learn from their mistakes? It seems for him a lighter sentence is due.
 
Originally posted by: MotF Bane
I'd say just put him on probation. He returned it, now if he doesn't screw up again, he's fine, if he does screw up again, he's going to jail for a while.
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agreed, probation is a good idea. maybe some community service.
 
He should get a little bit of community service, and that's it. Our court system is allegedly based on rehabilitation, if he gets more than cs, that'll show what a sham our penal system is.
 
The kid is confused and has tried to make a correct choice, he shouldn't be punished for that but he clearly needs education targeted toward his needs.

There's something wrong with the kid and if the only option is to throw him in the clinker hen we'll need to pay out that wazoo for that. I'm saying there's likely a productive role for him in society if her were properly educated and his particular, psychological needs adressed.
 
1000 hours of community service and perhaps probation as well as making a full apology to the foreign worker*.

*= If she is a legal citizen 😉
 
Originally posted by: Andrew1990
1000 hours of community service and perhaps probation as well as making a full apology to the foreign worker*.

*= If she is a legal citizen 😉
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Why do you need that *? Wouldn't an apology be warranted even if the person wasn't legally here?
 
Originally posted by: lxskllr
He should get a little bit of community service, and that's it. Our court system is allegedly based on rehabilitation, if he gets more than cs, that'll show what a sham our penal system is.
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Horseshit. Leniency for sure but he needs to serve a short amount of time locked up, or his next juvenile mood swing might end up in a crime he can't "take back."

He needs to learn about consequences, and that saying "so solly" the next day doesn't make it ALL ok.

These answers here are predominantly from the "I showed up for all of the classes, so I deserve an 'A'" generation.

Sad, soft, narcissist, insular, ahistorical and endlessly ignorant.

It's not ALL good, yo. :roll:
 
I'd say he still gets some penalty of some sort, but not jail. Maybe community service or something? Also probation.

Recently there was actually a robber that tried to rob a place here, the store clerk actually asked him to leave, and he did. LOL Guess there are SOME nice thiefs. lmao.
 
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: lxskllr
He should get a little bit of community service, and that's it. Our court system is allegedly based on rehabilitation, if he gets more than cs, that'll show what a sham our penal system is.
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Horseshit. Leniency for sure but he needs to serve a short amount of time locked up, or his next juvenile mood swing might end up in a crime he can't "take back."

He needs to learn about consequences, and that saying "so solly" the next day doesn't make it ALL ok.

These answers here are predominantly from the "I showed up for all of the classes, so I deserve an 'A'" generation.

Sad, soft, narcissist, insular, ahistorical and endlessly ignorant.

It's not ALL good, yo. :roll:
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So is our system based on rehabilitation, or punishment? If it's the former, I'm right, if it's the latter, you are.

 
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: lxskllr
He should get a little bit of community service, and that's it. Our court system is allegedly based on rehabilitation, if he gets more than cs, that'll show what a sham our penal system is.
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Horseshit. Leniency for sure but he needs to serve a short amount of time locked up, or his next juvenile mood swing might end up in a crime he can't "take back."

He needs to learn about consequences, and that saying "so solly" the next day doesn't make it ALL ok.

These answers here are predominantly from the "I showed up for all of the classes, so I deserve an 'A'" generation.

Sad, soft, narcissist, insular, ahistorical and endlessly ignorant.

It's not ALL good, yo. :roll:
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So is our system based on rehabilitation, or punishment? If it's the former, I'm right, if it's the latter, you are.
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Typically shallow false dichotomy. You SUCK at teh logical argument, son.

His "rehabilitation" will involve being "scared straight" with 15-30 days in lock-up to drive home the lesson that you can't do the violently stupid thing he did and then - la la la la la - make it all right the next day on your own accord, otherwise, the JOKE of "community service" might not take and he wouldn't be truly "rehabilitated" yo, with possibly tragic results for ALL with his next stupid mood swing.

Understand?

 
Probation + community service, IMO.

He made an attempt to right his wrong. That should count for something...
 
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