Teen burgler killed by homeowner

[K1052]

As for the thugs family? Throw them in jail, those type of people only assist in society's decline. Wouldn't be surprised if they were criminals too if they continue to defend the thug's actions.

You have heard of the Constitution right?

 

[waggy]

“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”


The fuck i do.

I look at it as a homeowner who has spent a lifetime busting my ass for the stuff I OWN. Whatever that little shit steals they then have to WORK to replace. that is hours away from home and family.

He wants that stuff? he needs to go get a fucking job.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I am very pro-2nd amendment and strongly believe people should have the right to defend themselves. I could never kill someone over my property, even if legal. I wouldn't be able to live with myself doing that. Stealing my phone or even my car is not worth a life.

 

[K1052]

I am very pro-2nd amendment and strongly believe people should have the right to defend themselves. I could never kill someone over my property, even if legal. I wouldn't be able to live with myself doing that. Stealing my phone or even my car is not worth a life.

I agree with this. I'm insured to the hilt so why would I want taking a life on my conscience unless my own was in imminent danger.

 

[theeedude]

She shouldn't have shot him, but she won't get convicted by a jury either.

 

[Spungo]

This sounds exactly like the poor persons version of affulenza. Would not in house probation be appropriate?

lol

I remember hearing the term "affluenza" in school because I went to a Catholic high school in Canada. In religion class, they were trying to emphasize that materialism is not everything; your life should not be defined by what you own. The video they showed had a hilarious Reefer Madness style to it. It was intended to be over the top and silly, but it did get the point across. To be a good Christian is to be poor in spirit.

The clothing argument doesn't fly with me. If you want clothes, go steal from a clothing store. If you're in my house, I assume you're there to rape me, so I think it's perfectly reasonable to kill anyone who breaks in.

 

[DrunkenSano]

I am very pro-2nd amendment and strongly believe people should have the right to defend themselves. I could never kill someone over my property, even if legal. I wouldn't be able to live with myself doing that. Stealing my phone or even my car is not worth a life.

I certainly respect your view on this and I agree with it. However, the problem is how do you know that he won't hurt you or your loved ones in the process of robbing you of your items? That is why I would shoot without hesitation or remorse, I am no mind reader. If you invade my home and property, I will assume the worse and defend myself and my loved ones. My life and the lives of those I care for are worth infinitely more than the life of a thug who is invading my property.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Buh-bye criminal POS.

 

[Subyman]

From what I've read, he shouldn't have been shot if she wasn't threatened. Dumb lady should have at least said he "lunged at me" or some junk. Hasn't she learned anything from the po-po?

 

[sm625]

Welfare isnt enough? There's a real shocker.

 

[SlowSpyder]

I certainly respect your view on this and I agree with it. However, the problem is how do you know that he won't hurt you or your loved ones in the process of robbing you of your items? That is why I would shoot without hesitation or remorse, I am no mind reader. If you invade my home and property, I will assume the worse and defend myself and my loved ones. My life and the lives of those I care for are worth infinitely more than the life of a thug who is invading my property.

I don't disagree, if I come home late at night with my nine year old and see someone in my home who isn't supposed to be there, depending on the circumstances I might not wait to find out if they're just after my TV, or after my stuff and leaving no witnesses. I don't generally blame someone for erring on the side of safety for themselves and loved ones in those situations. But from the sounds of it, this woman was never in peril, her safety was never threatened and seems obvious that she escalated the situation. That isn't something I can agree with.

 

[thraashman]

LOLOL!

man this article is full of hilarious quotes from the dumb ass family.

I know if a under age member of my family was killed for doing something stupid I'd certainly attack and disparage them as if that one act defined their entire existence.

No way to know what happened. The facts available make it seem like a justified shooting, breaking and entering, young strong fast burgler, elderly woman. And the quotes from the burglers family are hilariously criminal and biased. World is probably better off...and Im a liberal democrat. :\

The quotes are not criminal, but obviously they're biased. Someone they love was killed, even justified as it was no family member will be happy they lost someone.

Good kill. There should be no punishments at all for people defending their homes. When more home burglars are killed trying to rob people, it would deter future criminals as the risk will no longer justify the reward. If the government sides with the criminals, then they will be more willing to rob people. Kill them all and let God sort them out.

As for the thugs family? Throw them in jail, those type of people only assist in society's decline. Wouldn't be surprised if they were criminals too if they continue to defend the thug's actions.

There is no such thing as a "good kill". If you want to call yourself a human you should never be ok with people being killed, even when justified. If you think you could take a life without remorse, then you lack empathy. A defining characteristic of being a human. I'm sure the woman will suffer some ill psychological effects for what she had no choice but to do. Because I'm sure that she, unlike many in this thread, is capable of feeling empathy. And your last sentence is just fully moronic.

I wonder how many of the people cheering this teenager's death would call themselves Christians. Considering the entire faith is based upon the concepts of love, forgiveness, and redemption. I'm sure most of you claim you're Christians. It's sad that me, an atheist, follows the tenets of your religion more than all of you combined.

 

[Spungo]

From what I've read, he shouldn't have been shot if she wasn't threatened. Dumb lady should have at least said he "lunged at me" or some junk. Hasn't she learned anything from the po-po?

Maybe she shot him from a weird angle like the side or the back. Lying too much quickly gets people in trouble.

Women get a lot more lenience on this because everyone who isn't a feminist acknowledges that men are a lot stronger than women, on average. As such, risking a confrontation with the burglar would be unreasonable.

Instead of thinking about it like a woman vs a man, think about it like a man versus a man carrying a baseball bat. That's how extreme the disparity is. Would it be reasonable to shoot a man carrying a baseball bat even if he didn't lunge at you?

 

[mizzou]

"“He was not supposed to die like this. He had a future ahead of him. Trevon had goals… he was a funny guy, very big on education, loved learning"

Why is it like a broken record with juvenile/young criminals?

Anyway, the only legal justification for killing the burglar is if the burglar threatened to cause severe physical injury or death to the homeowner or if the homeowners life was in imminent threat of serious physical injury/death.

All I will say is if a burglar comes INTO my house while I'm sleeping and confronts me, I'm going to assume that my life is in danger.

If I stumble upon one on my way home and he runs away? There is no justification for shooting them.

 

[Subyman]

Maybe she shot him from a weird angle like the side or the back. Lying too much quickly gets people in trouble.

Women get a lot more lenience on this because everyone who isn't a feminist acknowledges that men are a lot stronger than women, on average. As such, risking a confrontation with the burglar would be unreasonable.

Instead of thinking about it like a woman vs a man, think about it like a man versus a man carrying a baseball bat. That's how extreme the disparity is. Would it be reasonable to shoot a man carrying a baseball bat even if he didn't lunge at you?

Not unless he was threatening, as in, he was going back for a swing. But, that is from my male view of the world. For a woman, perhaps a man standing with a ball bat and yelling is threatening enough. It doesn't mean it would hold up legally for her though.

Personally, I don't think anyone should be killed over property. We have the courts to work that out. We have the penal system for punishment. Depending on the evidence and if she couldn't prove she had cause to shoot, then I'd give a guilty verdict to her. Likely for a lesser crime like manslaughter.

 

[Jeff7]

An unfortunate outcome, but...

Don't do the crime if you can't take the bullet. 😛

Breaking into someone's house can be risky business. Sometimes you make it out alive, sometimes you don't.

To me vigilantism is going after criminals after a period of time has already passed. Someone robbed you and already left the neighborhood, you track him down and then invoke justice.

In this case, the thug was caught in the process. Who knows how the thug would've reacted or if he had a weapon concealed away. Safest way to deal with them is to shoot them dead. Why risk your life for someone who doesn't value or respect yours?

None of this addresses the idiotic idea of jailing people who are not guilty of a crime.

If you want to use "assist in society's decline" as a jail-worthy offense, people with your sort of mentality could easily qualify. While we're at it, your family would also be there with you, per your own rules.

 

[Subyman]

An unfortunate outcome, but...Breaking into someone's house can be risky business. Sometimes you make it out alive, sometimes you don't.

FWIW, he made it out alive. Then she shot him, purportedly without legal cause.

 

[brycejones]

These threads are awesome. Dog whistle central.

 

[glenn1]

These threads are awesome. Dog whistle central.

Oh sure, I have no doubt that if only the perp was a rich white person from the suburbs or Asian medical doctor that everyone in the thread would feel completely different and argue completely against the homeowner instead.

 

[brycejones]

Oh sure, I have no doubt that if only the perp was a rich white person from the suburbs or Asian medical doctor that everyone in the thread would feel completely different and argue completely against the homeowner instead.

Reread this thread maybe you will get it.

 

[MagickMan]

“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”

That's some stupid shit, right there. Absolutely mind-boggling. D: WTF is wrong with these people?

 

[chucky2]

That's some stupid shit, right there. Absolutely mind-boggling. D: WTF is wrong with these people?

And yet there are millions an millions of voters in the country who will be nodding up and down at each other in complete agreement at this.

 

[Mursilis]

“You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school? You have to look at it from his point-of-view.”

It was clearly his money; that homeowner was just holding it for him.

 

[MagickMan]

And yet there are millions an millions of voters in the country who will be nodding up and down at each other in complete agreement at this.

Indeed, they're idiots.

 

[MagickMan]

It was clearly his money; that homeowner was just holding it for him.

That explains their mentality perfectly.