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Ted Turner is a complete moron *UPDATE - Turner withdraws comment

I think he's more of a moron for donating one billion dollars to the UN. And I dont think this explains anything as far as a supposed bias at CNN.
 
I can't see how he is a moron for speaking his mind. I do not agree with him, but he obviously has the right to say whatever he wants. He has demonstrated through his own vast personal success that he is a bright guy.
 
well that moron has to be damn smart to have built what he has now...he's rich and you mr thepresence arent so....check your jealousy at the door.

 
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
I can't see how he is a moron for speaking his mind. I do not agree with him, but he obviously has the right to say whatever he wants. He has demonstrated through his own vast personal success that he is a bright guy.
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I dont think he's a moron for speaking his mind. I think he's a moron for thinking the way he does, which is either totally uninformed or just plain worng. Either way, he should just STFU unless he has something intelligent to say (which is doubtful).
 
I think he's right with saying that they are both terrorizing each other! So?

Although I wouldn't lean that far out of the window and say who's right and who's wrong (both?) I think they are both doing stupid things!

Seems to me like CNN and Ted Turner did/said finally something smart!

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Well, aren't both sides terrorizing each other? Yes. Therefore, both parties are guilty. In a true sense of the word terrorists, the U.S. is guilty of terrorism as well.

The bottom line is.....BIG DEAL. It's just one opinion......everyone has one. The media just likes to hype anything up to make news.
 
Originally posted by: rudder
even Hanoi Jane divorced him.
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Vietnam Vets aren't fond of Jane!!!!!!!!!!!!! screw that beeeaaattttcchhhh.


As to Turners comments. They are both terrorizing each other. Been going on for a while now.
 
Originally posted by: badluck
Well, aren't both sides terrorizing each other? Yes. Therefore, both parties are guilty. In a true sense of the word terrorists, the U.S. is guilty of terrorism as well.

The bottom line is.....BIG DEAL. It's just one opinion......everyone has one. The media just likes to hype anything up to make news.
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Terrorism is defined as going after civillian targets to achieve a political goal. Israel does not do that. They go after the militant targets.

 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Let's not forget, this is a man who praised the bravery of the 9/11 hijackers.
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and as much as I think his $1B donation to the UN could have been spent MUCH more wisely, I agree with him on that statement, as unpolitically correct as it sounds.
 


ThePresence....you need to take a few minutes and look up the word terrorism.....not just throw around definitions that sound good to you.....
 
Do I detect in ThePresence an absence.

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ThePresence: I dont think he's a moron for speaking his mind. I think he's a moron for thinking the way he does, which is either totally uninformed or just plain worng.

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Maybe instead of uninformed he is just more informed. But I could be WORNG. 😀
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: badluck
Well, aren't both sides terrorizing each other? Yes. Therefore, both parties are guilty. In a true sense of the word terrorists, the U.S. is guilty of terrorism as well.

The bottom line is.....BIG DEAL. It's just one opinion......everyone has one. The media just likes to hype anything up to make news.
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Terrorism is defined as going after civillian targets to achieve a political goal. Israel does not do that. They go after the militant targets.
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Is that why hundreds of IDF soldiers and officers refused to serve (and have gone to jail for it!) in occupied territories?

We, combat officers and soldiers who have served the State of Israel for long weeks every year, in spite of the dear cost to our personal lives, have been on reserve duty all over the Occupied Territories, were issued commands and directives that had nothing to do with the security of our country, and that had the sole purpose of perpetuating our control over the Palestinian people. whose eyes have seen the bloody toll this Occupation exacts from both sides... shall take no [further] part in them.


The objectors are calling for signatures to a petition justifying their rebellion on humanitarian grounds. They say the advance into Palestinian territories is an evil driven by the Israeli government, by Defence officers that order soldiers to commit crimes against a defenceless peoples.

Assaf Oron, a reservist soldier says: "The Israeli government, in its policies of Occupation, has turned the Territories into a greenhouse for growing terror.


Assaf Oron, a reservist soldier says: "The Israeli government, in its policies of Occupation, has turned the Territories into a greenhouse for growing terror


Neither side is good here, the palestinians are just worse.
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: badluck
Well, aren't both sides terrorizing each other? Yes. Therefore, both parties are guilty. In a true sense of the word terrorists, the U.S. is guilty of terrorism as well.

The bottom line is.....BIG DEAL. It's just one opinion......everyone has one. The media just likes to hype anything up to make news.
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Terrorism is defined as going after civillian targets to achieve a political goal. Israel does not do that. They go after the militant targets.
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not realy, according to Icelandic aid workers who have been working in Palestine for the last months the IDF goes after just about anything, blows its way through buildings and if they find a picture of Arafat on or inside a building they blow it up. The IDF is terrorising the Palestinians just like the Palestinian terrorist groups are terrorising the Israelis.

 
Turner is right, both sides are terrorizing each other. Palestinian suicide bombers in Israel and Sharon's militant pounding and demolishing of the Palestinian lands. Atleast he's got enough guts to see there's two sides to the coin, muchless admit it publicly.
 
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Let's not forget, this is a man who praised the bravery of the 9/11 hijackers.
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and as much as I think his $1B donation to the UN could have been spent MUCH more wisely, I agree with him on that statement, as unpolitically correct as it sounds.
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Perhaps you, Bill Maher, and Ted Turner would like to be on the next airliner some of these "were brave at the very least." guys choose to make another statement.
 
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Let's not forget, this is a man who praised the bravery of the 9/11 hijackers.
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and as much as I think his $1B donation to the UN could have been spent MUCH more wisely, I agree with him on that statement, as unpolitically correct as it sounds.
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Mass murder of unarmed civillians is not bravery, it's cowardly. Yeah, they killed themselves for what they believe, that does not make them brave. It makes them foolish. You wanna see real bravery? Go look at US troops under fire. See how they react. Look at Israeli troops under fire, doing all they can not to kill civillians at their own peril. Of course, you probably believe that the chief goal of the IDF is to kill as many civillians as possible. Lucky, I thought you were smarter than this.
 
Is that why hundreds of IDF soldiers and officers refused to serve (and have gone to jail for it!) in occupied territories?

We, combat officers and soldiers who have served the State of Israel for long weeks every year, in spite of the dear cost to our personal lives, have been on reserve duty all over the Occupied Territories, were issued commands and directives that had nothing to do with the security of our country, and that had the sole purpose of perpetuating our control over the Palestinian people. whose eyes have seen the bloody toll this Occupation exacts from both sides... shall take no [further] part in them.
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These are a bunch of scared sh|tless kids who are pissing their pants in public instead of doing their duty, and then coming up with some kinda flase moral, baseless arguments. I know their type, they're always trying to avoid the Israeli draft. Cowards. Then the media blows this up as if its some big news story, and you just buy what they say.
 
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
I do not agree with him, but he obviously has the right to say whatever he wants.
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yup and Presence also obviously has the right to say whatever he wants to.

 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: Lucky
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Let's not forget, this is a man who praised the bravery of the 9/11 hijackers.
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and as much as I think his $1B donation to the UN could have been spent MUCH more wisely, I agree with him on that statement, as unpolitically correct as it sounds.
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IMO, you just joined him in the moron ranks. Mass murder of unarmed civillians is not bravery, it's cowardly. Yeah, they killed themselves for what they believe, that does not make them brave. It makes them foolish. You wanna see real bravery? Go look at US troops under fire. See how they react. Look at Israeli troops under fire, doing all they can not to kill civillians at their own peril. Of course, you probably believe that the chief goal of the IDF is to kill as many civillians as possible. Lucky, I thought you were smarter than this.
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Ah, you just had to get personal, huh? Figures. (edit: not that i dont ever get personal, heh. 😉 )

You assume one cannot be both brave AND foolish. Not true. And show me where I said that about the IDF. Oh wait, you wont be able to! All I did was link to an article where YOUR VERY OWN IDF SOLDIERS admit that they recieve orders contrary to peace!
 
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