Ted Rall cartoon taken down by MSNBC

[Steeplerot]

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Ah yes. Watching the most recent episode of 'My Favorite Marxist' while consuming the latest herbal delicacies, I gather. Of course, of course.

Is this your newest catch-all phrase from rush?
Typical, whatever soundbyte, catchphrase or hero to worship.
Go get some pills you need to relax armchair generals.
Don't worry they will have another commercial on soon to distract you from your own mind.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: chess9
Having served in the military, I understand how Tillman felt. Maybe it's a testosterone thing, or a bit of goofy over the top patriotism, but a democracy has a need for warriors and will probably need them for a long time. Tillman was a classic warrior, IMHO.

Just because we honor Tillman doesn't mean we approve of the war in Iraq. I personally believe that since he died in Afghanistan, his death is not without meaning as long as one AQ thug responsible for 911 is roaming that country. More problematic is the question of the "value" of the deaths of those Americans who died in Iraq for a worthless and hopeless cause.

I also don't care if Tillman was possibly confused about the connection between Iraq and 911. So what? He isn't alone, and that connection may be made some day.

These attacks on Tillman really are ONLY attacks on his friends and family and memory. Why would anyone stoop that low? Or, is this the political climate of today-i.e., never hesitate to stoop lower than your enemy?

-Robert

Ditto.

There is truth and there are attacks. My experience tells me that the former always looks like the latter to some. How do we know what is what?

 

[InfectedMushroom]

Originally posted by: chess9
Having served in the military, I understand how Tillman felt. Maybe it's a testosterone thing, or a bit of goofy over the top patriotism, but a democracy has a need for warriors and will probably need them for a long time. Tillman was a classic warrior, IMHO.

Just because we honor Tillman doesn't mean we approve of the war in Iraq. I personally believe that since he died in Afghanistan, his death is not without meaning as long as one AQ thug responsible for 911 is roaming that country. More problematic is the question of the "value" of the deaths of those Americans who died in Iraq for a worthless and hopeless cause.

I also don't care if Tillman was possibly confused about the connection between Iraq and 911. So what? He isn't alone, and that connection may be made some day.

These attacks on Tillman really are ONLY attacks on his friends and family and memory. Why would anyone stoop that low? Or, is this the political climate of today-i.e., never hesitate to stoop lower than your enemy?

-Robert

Robert, I understand your point and it makes sense. However I find the message being sent through the media and over coverage of Tillman to be wrong.
The message seems to be: be testosterone fueled meat-head that goes to fight wherever the corrupt politicians send you. Don't think for yourself, just follow blindly.

I understand raising a :beer: and laying a

for the man. He deserves that, but not the rest of the bullsh1t propaganda.