Ted Cruz is Canadian; how can he be president?

[SandEagle]

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

goodbye Constitution.

 

[pontifex]

Obama is from Africa and he's already destroying the constitution, so....




Aren't you British? Why do you care? lol

 

[master_shake_]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-and-still-become-president-of-the-us/275469/

such a convoluted reason must be true...

 

[Naer]

Obama is from Africa and he's already destroying the constitution, so....




Aren't you British? Why do you care? lol

Obama is the best president so far

 

[natto fire]

Politics has it's own subforum, how can it be in OT?

 

[BoomerD]

Politics has it's own subforum, how can it be in OT?

It is...now.

 

[Naer]

And the most hilarious one too

 

[SandEagle]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-and-still-become-president-of-the-us/275469/

such a convoluted reason must be true...

ahh, only a Canadian would come to his defense, or should i say 'defence'.
his allegiance and preference may lie to Canada, we do not know. i cant fathom the thought of US taxpayer dollars getting diverted to fund Canada's military

 

[sandorski]

He may have been born in the same Hospital I was....I should start my Presidential bid....

 

[MongGrel]

If you haven't seen why by now to begin with, you're really doing something wrong.

 

[natto fire]

He may have been born in the same Hospital I was....I should start my Presidential bid....

Put KT as your running mate, and I'd vote for your ticket.

It is...now.

If ya' can't beat 'em, join 'em?

 

[sandorski]

Put KT as your running mate, and I'd vote for your ticket.



If ya' can't beat 'em, join 'em?

Damn, this is easier than I thought. D:

Ice cream and Puppies for everyone!!!

...if elected of course [/disclaimer]

 

[Fern]

Ted Cruz is Canadian; how can he be president?

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

goodbye Constitution.

You answered your own question: He must be a "natural born citizen".

IIRC, the SCOTUS has not settled the issue of what exactly a natural born citizen is, so we're left with various opinions like those in the Atlantic article linked above.

It's an interesting question, but Cruz will not be elected so it's irrelevant and will remain unaddressed by the court.

Fern

 

[MongGrel]

And the most hilarious one too

And your still a twit.

 

[BoomerD]

You answered your own question: He must be a "natural born citizen".

IIRC, the SCOTUS has not settled the issue of what exactly a natural born citizen is, so we're left with various opinions like those in the Atlantic article linked above.

It's an interesting question, but Cruz will not be elected so it's irrelevant and will remain unaddressed by the court.

Fern

That we can only hope...and I DO think it's past time for the USSC to clarify the "natural-born" clause in the Constitution.
In MY opinion, you must either be (a) born in the US of A to parents who are in the US legally, or (b) be born to parents who are US citizens serving abroad in the US military.
If your parents are living/working in a foreign country when you're born, you are still a citizen...just not "natural born."

 

[Naer]

And your still a twit.

your...your




























your

 

[SandEagle]

You answered your own question: He must be a "natural born citizen".

IIRC, the SCOTUS has not settled the issue of what exactly a natural born citizen is, so we're left with various opinions like those in the Atlantic article linked above.

It's an interesting question, but Cruz will not be elected so it's irrelevant and will remain unaddressed by the court.

Fern

it is for the most powerful position in the free world. there can be no loopholes or doubts about this.

 

[Fern]

it is for the most powerful position in the free world. there can be no loopholes or doubts about this.

The court needs to have a case. AFAIK they've never gotten one.

McCain was the most recent possibility, but he wasn't elected.

Romney's father was another, but like McCain he wasn't elected.

IIRC back in the 1800's a President was rumored to have been born in Canada, but nothing ever became of it (no court challenged filed).

I suppose that there's at least a theoretical possibility that a challenge to Cruz could be filed when he registers to run (files the FEC form), but that seems highly unlikely to me. I could imagine some publicity seeking wingnut filing a case, but the SCOTUS always seems to find a reason not to hear those cases; lack of "standing" etc.

Fern

 

[LegendKiller]

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-and-still-become-president-of-the-us/275469/

such a convoluted reason must be true...

How is that convoluted? Does being born to an American citizen make the baby an American citizen if they aren't born in the US or a naturalized citizen. It is a very simple and non-convoluted question.

 

[master_shake_]

How is that convoluted? Does being born to an American citizen make the baby an American citizen if they aren't born in the US or a naturalized citizen. It is a very simple and non-convoluted question.

Clear as mud...

Oh well George Washington was British

 

[Fern]

Clear as mud...

Oh well George Washington was British

The complication you're seeing is that at the time of the Constitution no one who had attained the age of 35 was a "natural born citizen" (born as a citizen of the USA). There was no USA back then. A transitional rule was thus required in the beginning of the country.

Fern

 

[Fanatical Meat]

The court needs to have a case. AFAIK they've never gotten one.

McCain was the most recent possibility, but he wasn't elected.

Romney's father was another, but like McCain he wasn't elected.

IIRC back in the 1800's a President was rumored to have been born in Canada, but nothing ever became of it (no court challenged filed).

I suppose that there's at least a theoretical possibility that a challenge to Cruz could be filed when he registers to run (files the FEC form), but that seems highly unlikely to me. I could imagine some publicity seeking wingnut filing a case, but the SCOTUS always seems to find a reason not to hear those cases; lack of "standing" etc.

Fern

In 2008 the Senate passed a resolution stating that John McCain can be President.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp

 

[thraashman]

I've always felt that "natural born" means that upon birth you have citizenship of the United States. Be that because one or both of your parents are citizens and they convey their citizenship to you upon birth or because you are born on American soil. And as has already been stated, Rafael Cruz is unelectable so it matter little, but he would qualify.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The law, understand it.

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/abroad/events-and-records/birth.html

A child born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent or parents may acquire U.S. citizenship at birth if certain statutory requirements are met

 

[boomerang]

The law, understand it.

But are we still a nation based on the rule of law?