Techreport: A note on rumors about gtx 590 issues.

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"Nvidia GTX 590 Rumors Grossly Exaggerated. Techreport link inside "

Tell us something we allready didn't know.
 

Kenmitch

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Keys....Just wanted to say thanks for popping up another thread to read :)

Had surgery on my hand 2 weeks ago so it's been pretty boring being home on disibility with not much to do!

The 590's launch was perfect timing for me!

To bad the red and green teams couldn't just team up once a year and produce what I'll call a all star card! I think with AMD's help nvidia could get it done right the first time :D
 

Keysplayr

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"Nvidia GTX 590 Rumors Grossly Exaggerated. Techreport link inside "

Tell us something we allready didn't know.

Well, judging from the reactionary mass hysteria that has ensued, I think I just did tell many something that they didn't already know. LOL
:thumbsup:
 

Keysplayr

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Keys....Just wanted to say thanks for popping up another thread to read :)

Had surgery on my hand 2 weeks ago so it's been pretty boring being home on disibility with not much to do!

The 590's launch was perfect timing for me!

To bad the red and green teams couldn't just team up once a year and produce what I'll call a all star card! I think with AMD's help nvidia could get it done right the first time :D

Uhh,,, yeah, ok? Glad to help? And enjoy.
 

Grooveriding

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Nvidia better get their driver team functional. Bad drivers frying cards is not a good sales tactic.

Looks like nvidia has gone into hotfix overdrive mode.

Looking forward to the articles on the exploding 590 that needed four driver releases in under a week to bandaid the faulty hardware design.


You are Trolling the thread. Not acceptable.

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Keysplayr

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Looks like nvidia has gone into hotfix overdrive mode.

Looking forward to the articles on the exploding 590 that needed four driver releases in under a week to bandaid the faulty hardware design.

This is FUD. A few posts above you, is explained the last 3 driver releases and what they are.
There were no emergency band-aid drivers as you put it. Launch drivers are 267.84 and they have the proper circuitry protection.
 

Grooveriding

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This is FUD. Right above you, is explained the last 3 driver releases and what they are.
There were no emergency band-aid drivers as you put it. Launch drivers are 267.84 and they have the proper circuitry protection.

Multiple links and multiple examples of the same failing component on GTX 590s.

DEAD&




Good on them, about time they said or did something to try and respond. But one opinion piece on techreport does not make the burning out cards disappear.

Keep us posted. We have one thread with multiple examples of dead and faulty 590s. Now we have this thread with a link to an oped piece with nothing to explain the exploding 590s, but a healthy dose of some of the paranoia we've seen on this forum about there being conspiracies behind user's experiences with failing 590s.

Beef this thread up with some data to contradict the thread on the explosions.

Once/if nv manages to get past the debacle of the 590's quality control issues. Then they can move on to trying to find some benchmarks to back up their claim they have a faster card than the 6990.

Plenty of work ahead for nv pr. :thumbsup:


You are baiting, a form of trolling. This behavior needs to stop. It is not productive.

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Plenty of work ahead for nv pr. :thumbsup:

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OCGuy

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Yep some people here with intentions that are a mystery to me took it and ran with it.

It isn't surpising on a message board that is mostly full of the competition's fan club.

They will sell every 590 they make, and Kepler will be here before we know it. This faux-hoopla in the last couple days will be nothing but a sensationalized spec on the radar.


The implied ad hominem and innuendo needs to stop. It is not productive, it is baiting and inflammatory.

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Keysplayr

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Yep some people here with intentions that are a mystery to me took it and ran with it.

It isn't surpising on a message board that is mostly full of the competition's fan club.

They will sell every 590 they make, and Kepler will be here before we know it. This faux-hoopla in the last couple days will be nothing but a sensationalized spec on the radar.

OCGuy, it aint worth it. Don't get yourself suckered into it as I have the past few days. I took a step back and saw what's what. You should to. Things will take care of themselves.
 
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The issue is that, just because their card isn't having problems doesn't mean other peoples' cards are fine. More time and data is needed.

Such rumors are also an intriguing source of information because so many of 'em seem to be planted by a major, engineering-focused organization—you know, a competing firm.

That is outright ridiculous and in light of the fact that there were cards being killed, is pointless to even say.

I don't know why people act surprised that this blew up (har! har!), there's video evidence of a part on a card exploding, that's obviously going to cause a big mess. Then, surprise, other people have had their cards die. Fact is, there was, possibly still is a problem with these cards.
 

waffleironhead

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This is FUD. A few posts above you, is explained the last 3 driver releases and what they are.
There were no emergency band-aid drivers as you put it. Launch drivers are 267.84 and they have the proper circuitry protection.

I dont see those listed in Ryan's review all he has listed are

NVIDIA ForceWare 262.99
NVIDIA ForceWare 266.56 Beta
NVIDIA ForceWare 266.58
NVIDIA ForceWare 267.71

Did AT not receive launch drivers?
 

LiuKangBakinPie

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I asked once in the nvidia forums about a card of mine that ran hot in its 90s. It was some years ago with the 8400gs. Suddenly a nvidia mod popped up and said the following

A NVIDIA GPU CAN WITHSTAND TEMPERATURES OF 600 DEGREES.

I promised myself never to go to the nvidia forums again


Completely off-topic and a thread-derail. Not acceptable.

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Gloomy

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"The opposition's fan club" tends to consist of people who generally don't make their intentions clear-- if that is what this forum is filled with.

"The home team's fan club" tends to consist of people like Notty22 and Wreckage and are generally considered fools by the average forumgoer.

Which one is more likely to get chased out of the forum? The fan club filled with people that make blatantly biased comments or the sneaky, silver-tongued knaves on the opposition's fan club who make subtle insinuations and when brought up get dismissed as conspiracy theories?

Hey, here's a thought: Why don't you guys have the opposition's fan club give you lessons? You could even pay them for it and everyone wins!!!



No more warnings

You're baiting people in the is thread by trolling and derailing the topic.

If you have nothing to say to the topic, stay out.


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Keysplayr

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The issue is that, just because their card isn't having problems doesn't mean other peoples' cards are fine. More time and data is needed.



That is outright ridiculous and in light of the fact that there were cards being killed, is pointless to even say.

I don't know why people act surprised that this blew up (har! har!), there's video evidence of a part on a card exploding, that's obviously going to cause a big mess. Then, surprise, other people have had their cards die. Fact is, there was, possibly still is a problem with these cards.

Fact isn't. The cards are fine.
Look, why do you think the 6990's AUSUM usage isn't covered under warranty by AMD? Because it not only ups the clocks, but ups the voltage. Enough to raise the wattage from 375W to 450W just by flicking the switch.
If it were completely safe to do so, don't you think AMD might have warranted this AUSUM setting? Alas, they did not.
Here is an example of a 6990 dying after an AUSUM run and switched back to normal.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/AMD_HD_6990_Antilles/18.html
Read the "UPDATE" on the Conclusion page.
 

96Firebird

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I asked once in the nvidia forums about a card of mine that ran hot in its 90s. It was some years ago with the 8400gs. Suddenly a nvidia mod popped up and said the following

A NVIDIA GPU CAN WITHSTAND TEMPERATURES OF 600 DEGREES.

I promised myself never to go to the nvidia forums again

Great story! :awe:
 

Keysplayr

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I dont see those listed in Ryan's review all he has listed are

NVIDIA ForceWare 262.99
NVIDIA ForceWare 266.56 Beta
NVIDIA ForceWare 266.58
NVIDIA ForceWare 267.71

Did AT not receive launch drivers?

Couldn't hurt to ask him to specify what he used for the review. I mean, did he use 4 drivers for his review?
Also, did his card die?
 
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nitromullet

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This is in the "wait and see" category for me. Regardless of the reasons and any fixes, the GTX 590 exhibited what I consider to be an abnormal failure rate to just be ignored.

For the record, I am a very pleased GTX 580 owner and I have no axe to grind with NVIDIA.

Here is an example of a 6990 dying after an AUSUM run and switched back to normal.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/AMD_HD_6990_Antilles/18.html
Read the "UPDATE" on the Conclusion page.

What is the relevance of this? Even if the 6990 had loads of well documented issues it would not have any impact on the GTX 590.
 

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Fact isn't. The cards are fine.
Look, why do you think the 6990's AUSUM usage isn't covered under warranty by AMD? Because it not only ups the clocks, but ups the voltage. Enough to raise the wattage from 375W to 450W just by flicking the switch.
If it were completely safe to do so, don't you think AMD might have warranted this AUSUM setting? Alas, they did not.
Here is an example of a 6990 dying after an AUSUM run and switched back to normal.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/AMD_HD_6990_Antilles/18.html
Read the "UPDATE" on the Conclusion page.

This is a quote from your link

While overclocking the HD 6990 we set the switch to the position 1 "AUSUM" setting to make use of the additional power. At this setting we were able to push the Cayman GPUs upward of 1000MHz, which was well beyond our exceptions.

so they didn't just flip the switch
 

Keysplayr

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This is a quote from your link

While overclocking the HD 6990 we set the switch to the position 1 "AUSUM" setting to make use of the additional power. At this setting we were able to push the Cayman GPUs upward of 1000MHz, which was well beyond our exceptions.

so they didn't just flip the switch

I'm not clear on what the difference is? Would you mind? The card is dead. Maybe they went too far.
 

Keysplayr

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This is in the "wait and see" category for me. Regardless of the reasons and any fixes, the GTX 590 exhibited what I consider to be an abnormal failure rate to just be ignored.

For the record, I am a very pleased GTX 580 owner and I have no axe to grind with NVIDIA.



What is the relevance of this? Even if the 6990 had loads of well documented issues it would not have any impact on the GTX 590.

Relevance: Cards can die if pushed hard enough.
 

waffleironhead

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Couldn't hurt to ask him to specify what he used for the review. I mean, did he use 4 drivers for his review?
Also, did his card die?

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll have to send out a query. It seems strange that AT wouldnt have used the launch drivers in their review.
 
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Fact isn't. The cards are fine.
Look, why do you think the 6990's AUSUM usage isn't covered under warranty by AMD? Because it not only ups the clocks, but ups the voltage. Enough to raise the wattage from 375W to 450W just by flicking the switch.
If it were completely safe to do so, don't you think AMD might have warranted this AUSUM setting? Alas, they did not.
Here is an example of a 6990 dying after an AUSUM run and switched back to normal.
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/AMD_HD_6990_Antilles/18.html
Read the "UPDATE" on the Conclusion page.

Um, do you not understand what the rest of that sentence was? Are you claiming there was never any problem at all? Because, regardless of it being the driver that was killing the cards, the fact is, there are dead cards. Now, maybe the problem has been fixed, maybe it has not. One site's results does not mean you can extrapolate that across the board.

This is what I said:

Fact is, there was, possibly still is a problem with these cards.

And that is accurate. There was a problem. There might still be. I'm certainly not going to take your word for it. Its good to see some evidence that it is fixed, but you're being every bit as ridiculous by acting like that proves irrefutably that its resolved.

Its clear that this is being turned into some big fanboy BS, but please stop whining about things and then turn around and do them yourself. I don't enjoy you willfully ignoring my comment because you have an agenda.

This has nothing to do with the 6990. Ditto about maybe not throwing rocks when you live in a glass house.
 

Vesku

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One positive result of this hoopla is to re-affirm my stance of staying under $250 for my game PC's video card.