Technical News, SETI@home daily User-stats and Team-stats for 26.06.2008.

Rattledagger

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Wednesday Words (Jun 25 2008)

This morning we turned off the scheduling server on ptolemy and started it up on anakin. This basically worked right out of the box. Pretty quickly we determined the lower traffic rates were due to DNS rollout. Despite having the TTL (time to live) on the download name (boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu) set to 5 minutes, it sometimes takes weeks to fully convince the world the change has been made. This is due to various types of DNS caching I still don't fully understand (why don't they all obey the TTL?). Stopping/restarting the BOINC client sometimes resolves this.

However, after an hour or so I decided to play nice and turn ptolemy back on, set in a way using apache to forward all lagging scheduling requests over to anakin with a "permanently moved" warning. I guess I should have done this from the get-go, but better late than never. Immediately this seemed to help, but only the uploads. Download traffic still remained under some rather low ceiling.

So I checked the two redundant download servers (bane and vader). Turns out bane wasn't serving any download requests. Was it even getting any? That part is a total mystery - nothing changed in any configurations pertaining to these servers. I double checked the DNS updates. No smoking guns there, either. Well, bane had weird dns/mounting/apache problems before that a quick reboot cleared up, so after rebooting it seemed to be "better" but not by much. Instead of 0 requests per second before reboot, it started serving 2 or 3 - vader is serving around 10. What's the deal, then? Perhaps this has to do with our "pound" load balancing utility recognizing bane was having trouble (strangely coincident but unrelated to the anakin switch) and has been favorite vader until bane got better. I filed this under "unrelated and currently harmless problem."

Anyway.. I then noticed (in between doing other tasks, hence the lag) the upload traffic was increasing way beyond expectations. I assumed everything was okay as all the apache logs were reporting no errors, but indeed the requests forwarded from ptolemy to anakin were failing. Why? Because the http headers were missing variables, including the all-imporant "Conent-Length." Why?!! This I have no idea, but apparently between apache (and/or the boinc client) redirected traffic results in different and less informative http headers. And so the schedulers on anakin were saying, "I don't know what you want - try again in 10 seconds." This got worse and worse as more clients wrapped up their currently workunits and tried to connect.

The solution to all that was to *not* do apache redirects (both 301 and 302 redirects had the same effect) but to use good ol' pound to simple shovel ptolemy's packets towards anakin. This helped all our DNS-lagging clients to finally connect again, but won't help to inform them that the scheduling server has indeed changed. Hopefully the clients will learn on their own in the coming days. We plan to turn off ptolemy outright early next week.

Nitpicker progress has been slowed by database programming issues. Informix has undocumented limits on user-defined lists in certain contexts. We may have to work around all that using something other than lists. Jeff's been banging on this and other similar programming hurdles for a while, hence the lack of recent info. Plus we have yet to sit down and discuss candidate scoring algorithms which will only happen if we can manage to get the four parties involved (Dan, Eric, Jeff, and me) in the same room at the same time without greater problems hanging over our heads. This hasn't happened in, well, months. At least glacial speeds are non-zero speeds.

- Matt

#____Total Work Done____Todays WD_______AWD________overtake________Team-name
01______584.083.405____1.084.254____1.082.740______impossible______SETI.USA
02______426.889.509______609.324______701.902______impossible______SETI.Germany
03______189.676.019______252.756______275.595______impossible______L'Alliance Francophone
04______131.428.385________5.552_______-2.506_____52.445 days______BOINC Synergy
05______122.287.677______-15.745______-18.556______6.590 days______BroadbandReports.com Team Starfire
06______115.459.183_______33.205_______31.795______impossible______Czech National Team
07______112.010.773_______68.482_______72.008______impossible______SETI@Netherlands
08______111.141.553______173.147______179.240______impossible______The Knights Who Say Ni!
09_______62.416.700______152.589______146.612______impossible______Overclockers.com
10_______39.199.359_____-100.120_____-122.936________319 days______Team Art Bell
11_______36.812.977_______-8.491______-18.059______2.038 days______Team 2ch
12_______34.169.002______-76.674______-84.568________404 days______Team MacNN
13_______32.399.843______-56.435______-85.167________380 days______OcUK - Overclockers UK
14_______28.555.690______-36.216______-57.052________501 days______The Planetary Society
15________5.809.726______-23.135______-53.106________109 days______Team China
16________4.729.090_______45.762_______11.230______impossible______Team Starfire World BOINC
17________4.034.536________6.071_______-7.200________560 days______SETI@Taiwan
18________1.388.192_____-191.880_____-223.559__________6 days______BOINC.Italy
19______111.804.636______303.683______342.465______notanoption_____TeAm AnandTech
20_______-1.327.995_____-175.206_____-189.672______impossible______Ars Technica
21______-10.397.180_____-128.615_____-149.495______impossible______Phoenix Rising
22______-17.239.871_____-189.744_____-225.657______impossible______Universe Examiners
23______-20.147.989______-92.403_____-115.623______impossible______Canada
24______-24.128.413______-18.185______-50.043______impossible______US NAVY
25______-28.064.120_____-123.638_____-151.400______impossible______Dutch Power Cows
26______-29.186.480_____-109.818_____-133.540______impossible______UK BOINC Team
27______-29.275.726_____-149.919_____-159.623______impossible______AUSTRIA - NATIONAL - TEAM
28______-30.632.046______-27.727______-54.661______impossible______U.S.Air Force
29______-31.037.383______-97.308_____-116.717______impossible______PC Perspective Killer Frogs
30______-31.753.378______-93.649_____-163.994______impossible______Amateur Radio Operators
31______-34.818.513_____-105.169_____-119.392______impossible______BOINC@AUSTRALIA
32______-37.554.683_____-130.979_____-170.882______impossible______BOINC SETI@home RUSSIA
33______-39.482.189_____-160.120_____-187.055______impossible______Team NIPPON
34______-41.183.718_____-240.645_____-272.301______impossible______Hewlett-Packard
35______-43.657.522_____-143.776_____-174.522______impossible______BOINC@Denmark
36______-44.274.077_____-183.223_____-214.161______impossible______Hungary
37______-45.046.851_____-228.244_____-254.658______impossible______Team MacAddict
38______-52.072.127______-70.173_____-111.808______impossible______BOINC@Poland
39______-52.120.862_____-199.671_____-236.125______impossible______Planet 3DNow!
40______-54.065.447_____-246.088_____-277.039______impossible______2CPU.com
41______-56.524.772_____-223.763_____-249.999______impossible______SETI@klamm.de
42______-56.879.228_____-222.940_____-248.434______impossible______SETI.hr
43______-58.563.258_____-217.595_____-255.795______impossible______Portugal@Home
44______-58.829.011_____-134.605_____-151.089______impossible______Elite Games
45______-62.482.848_____-227.328_____-257.740______impossible______BOINC.SK
46______-63.393.832_____-226.964_____-257.143______impossible______SETI Sverige [Sweden]
47______-63.876.153_____-222.406_____-250.505______impossible______BOINC.BE
48______-64.741.064_____-245.633_____-275.649______impossible______HispaSeti & BOINC
49______-64.960.636_____-232.784_____-258.577______impossible______Team EDGE
50______-65.012.465_____-270.166_____-298.239______impossible______Boone Community School District - Iowa


Appart for Anandtech's stats, it shows how much more/less than Anandtech.
Also shows based on Average Work Done how many days for Anandtech to overtake the team, or be overtaken by a team behind...


000______________Credit________Total_____ 
#00_____Pos._____/day__________credit_______User Name
001_____002_____71.528______7.984.212_____dajeepster
002_____005_____43.562______4.761.867_____Todd Hebert
003_____001_____28.409______8.041.961_____keeleysam
004_____009_____14.842______2.590.131_____Bryan Wallace
005_____022______9.468______1.120.795_____TeAm Enterprise
006_____004______8.673______4.839.133_____baxsie
007_____029______6.775________693.596_____tonyhams
008_____003______5.975______5.964.919_____cory e
009_____008______5.438______2.721.222_____Astro-AL
010_____020______4.991______1.217.370_____Lane42
011_____031______4.957________684.332_____Yooshaw
012_____024______4.729______1.001.820_____WhoKnows
013_____011______3.899______2.373.313_____Alan J. Simpson
014_____028______3.537________727.589_____Splotto
015_____016______3.421______1.448.937_____RussianSensation
016_____015______3.379______1.615.352_____Arlen - Team AnandTech
017_____057______3.121________348.331_____Assimilator1 - Team AnandTech
018_____038______2.571________637.211_____Wayne S
019_____056______2.487________364.904_____Wiz
020_____018______2.258______1.294.963_____mk
021_____030______1.876________687.350_____Spongebob_fan
022_____025______1.850________946.600_____Chris S
023_____023______1.849______1.052.241_____Jack Whitmire
024_____113______1.829________134.016_____kwhited
025_____034______1.492________654.902_____QuietDad
026_____195______1.206_________56.323_____jta-seti
027_____035______1.196________642.227_____Niege
028_____072______1.080________254.774_____jlaine
029_____151______1.059_________92.126_____Arvind
030_____055______1.019________379.916_____rlame
031_____050______1.011________428.538_____groundedsailor
032_____125________981________111.523_____Romulanmale
033_____179________977_________69.084_____mike
034_____068________976________281.732_____freakyfragiles
035_____033________967________658.820_____Chris Buchach
036_____014________946______2.055.202_____petrusbroder
037_____013________906______2.146.074_____nova
038_____006________859______4.668.400_____TenaciousT - Huntsville, AL
039_____059________856________325.782_____JCA
040_____415________835__________8.011_____Jarmonk
041_____026________823________937.141_____CraigRT
042_____066________772________290.485_____iamwiz82
043_____082________766________227.420_____SilverHair
044_____395________760__________9.738_____startz,august
045_____012________754______2.312.022_____del Sol
046_____047________723________470.367_____Boosted Def
047_____120________723________124.097_____McCormick
048_____007________714______4.265.078_____Ace
049_____081________708________233.029_____Zim Hosein
050_____040________671________596.513_____Voodoo
051_____347________613_________14.488_____Hurakan
052_____043________545________575.082_____Rich Hisgen
053_____096________534________181.528_____hymy
054_____042________509________588.392_____Fee
055_____267________487_________28.319_____Beets
056_____079________485________237.973_____Jason
057_____051________481________425.762_____RedFish
058_____074________466________250.118_____Daniel Schulken
059_____152________454_________90.264_____Heath (YodaBoy)
060_____061________433________311.570_____RoHo (Apple G5 dual 2.3)
061_____126________429________110.538_____Thunder
062_____109________428________146.445_____Webmonkey
063_____293________406_________22.815_____Kyle
064_____071________397________260.843_____Patrick Van Uffelen
065_____070________383________263.951_____bountyhunterxl
066_____337________382_________16.079_____linuxidiot
067_____073________373________253.884_____Alyx
068_____093________373________188.187_____chusteczka
069_____052________353________419.850_____DimensionX
070_____157________346_________85.872_____Akim.NET
071_____153________344_________88.079_____asim
072_____102________314________164.923_____cryhavoc
073_____062________298________310.688_____Steve
074_____103________298________161.312_____zordz
075_____149________297_________94.756_____liquidsun
076_____127________293________110.334_____theguru
077_____318________282_________19.278_____Zorian
078_____281________275_________25.286_____cyost91
079_____215________270_________44.460_____DMuns
080_____317________257_________19.392_____Dougal
081_____200________236_________52.891_____Dave Graham
082_____182________231_________64.489_____Jake
083_____032________227________664.432_____Hellburner
084_____155________227_________86.518_____serialb
085_____225________222_________39.756_____fredlight
086_____083________212________221.354_____minendo
087_____387________205_________10.340_____Sickle 584th
088_____139________197________100.566_____Shelgeyr
089_____046________196________501.745_____LANMAN
090_____205________188_________51.403_____DrKicker
091_____087________187________214.305_____aftp
092_____468________175__________4.270_____sciencewhiz
093_____375________172_________11.334_____Tom Pounds
094_____077________168________240.304_____CheesePoofs
095_____036________158________640.822_____matchbook
096_____017________156______1.295.495_____Sofa King
097_____222________153_________40.899_____Evadman
098_____099________147________172.563_____Soni
099_____146________125_________96.855_____Vindum
100_____550________120__________1.566_____Sabreguy
101_____089________115________205.152_____Swanny
102_____513________115__________2.537_____cherub
103_____308________107_________20.539_____SSchatz1
104_____266________105_________28.353_____amish
105_____259________104_________29.890_____JPHendrix
106_____185________103_________62.389_____Vendetta
107_____078________102________239.308_____panhead49
108_____097________102________179.370_____ElFenix
109_____231________101_________37.547_____Ken_g6 - Team Anandtech
110_____175_________95_________71.431_____GhettoFob
111_____352_________76_________14.207_____elyptyk
112_____382_________76_________10.581_____MooCow
113_____500_________76__________3.047_____Jeffe19007
114_____021_________75______1.203.664_____plasma
115_____063_________74________304.475_____bsauerbr
116_____141_________74_________99.577_____aka1nas
117_____454_________73__________4.843_____kjunesh
118_____486_________73__________3.621_____filibusterman
119_____167_________70_________77.556_____rleach2
120_____366_________70_________12.532_____RocketJockey2112
121_____301_________68_________21.165_____Dan Clark
122_____132_________64________105.996_____Mortimer
123_____270_________64_________28.039_____666
124_____176_________58_________71.214_____David Settlemoir
125_____280_________54_________25.618_____THE TERMINATOR
126_____080_________53________233.384_____Viperoni
127_____101_________53________165.112_____jjsetihead
128_____091_________51________194.371_____vulcan800
129_____092_________51________191.573_____mnelsonx
130_____104_________51________156.699_____caddlad
131_____142_________51_________99.322_____DJB
132_____191_________51_________58.104_____benedict
133_____242_________51_________33.953_____Cydd
134_____249_________51_________33.216_____Lonestar
135_____290_________51_________23.681_____Todd Willet
136_____314_________51_________19.734_____freeloader
137_____425_________38__________7.258_____engineereeyore
138_____044_________17________520.654_____Pokey


 

Smoke

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Jan 3, 2001
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Thank you kind sir. :beer:

My main cruncher is down. I have overnighted a new motherboard for my Q6600 system and it should be here late today. My goal is to be back up and running before day's end. ;)
 

Assimilator1

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Nov 4, 1999
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Yea & my own & Wizs output seem to be low too ,maybe a server problem? (not had time to read the large news report yet:p).

017_____057______3.121________348.331_____Assimilator1 - Team AnandTech


Hey RD, could you pop into my benchmarking thread? I have some more questions for you ;) ,oh & don't be shy to post some WU times in their either ;),unless your holding out for the benchmarking WU?

Oh & thanks for the stats :).
 

bryanW1995

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Originally posted by: Assimilator1
Yea & my own & Wizs output seem to be low too ,maybe a server problem? (not had time to read the large news report yet:p).

017_____057______3.121________348.331_____Assimilator1 - Team AnandTech


Hey RD, could you pop into my benchmarking thread? I have some more questions for you ;) ,oh & don't be shy to post some WU times in their either ;),unless your holding out for the benchmarking WU?

Oh & thanks for the stats :).

sometimes my quads will go 12-18 hours without contacting the server. it happens several times a week between the 3 of them, actually. I used to worry that they weren't crunching properly, now I don't worry about it. It all sorts out in the end. :)
 

Zim Hosein

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049_____081________708________233.029_____Zim Hosein

:)

Thanks for the SETI@home daily User-stats, Team-stats & Tech News Rattledagger! :beer:
 

Assimilator1

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Nov 4, 1999
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Ah I see, I don't usually notice short outages like that ;).

Originally posted by: Alyx
There I am! I've got points!
Yey!:), I have a feeling you're going to jump up a bit next week ;).