Team 8GB DDR3 kit $69.99 FS @ Newegg

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Thump553

Thump553

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Thanks for posting the hot deal-and they are good prices-but the user reviews on Newegg (for the 1333 at least) are somewhat scary. Seems to be a lot of failures after a month or so. Maybe I'm spoiled by places like Crucial with their no-nonsense lifetime warranties and quality memory.

BTW a quick memory question for you memory gurus. I was recently given an Acer Veriton M680G-it has an old i7 (2.80 Ghz if I recall correctly) with 6 GB of RAM installed-three 2GB sticks. I haven't opened the box but one reports as Crucial. Obviously these aren't matched pairs. How much of a hit an I taking in performance? This machine is to be used as a standard office machine, occasional large Excel spreadsheet and quite a bit of scanning (using Paperport 12SE) will be the most intensive work done with it.

Should I bother to replace the memory? I ran a memory test and everything came back good.
 
ReefaMadness

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I would like to add up a caution for anyone looking at these Team modules (it also applies to a vast number of the other brands, as well).

Take a look at the pics on the Newegg Product Page and you will note that these modules are single-sided, as opposed to the more common double-sided modules that were in production prior to about the middle of 2013 (roughly). If you look at the pics closely you will see that these single-sided modules have a row of closely-packed SMC just above the gold contacts on one side of the modules and none on the back side, whereas the double-sided modules have the SMC more spaced out and can be seen on both sides of the module.

When the high-clocking single-sided 4GB modules of 2933 and 3000 rated modules were released right around the end of the Ivy Bridge era and the introduction of the Haswell chips the memory chips that did not pass the binning process for those high-clocking modules found themselves in the lower-binned (1333/1600/1866/2133/2400) products. Not only was there a need to utilize those culled chips, but it was also cheaper to produce a single-sided stick with 8x4Gbit chips than one with 16x2Gbit chips. As the cost of raw materials (ram chips) were rising again during this time period the manufacturers were looking for ways to reduce their production costs and the switch to single-sided modules was an easy solution. The performance, however, of single-sided module at the same clocks, is lower than that of a double-sided module...to the tune of about a DDR3-500 differential. In other words, a pair of double-sided DDR3-1600 modules perform about the same as a pair of single-sided DDR3-2133 sticks.

While there are many users that would not even notice that performance drop in a family PC, if you are buying ram for your gaming or other high-end rig then you should at least be aware of this when making your purchase decision.

Everything else being equal, you are going to be better off choosing double-sided modules over single-sided ones.
 
ReefaMadness

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There is no reason to prefer single sided modules unless you are simply looking to find your CPU IMC's max.. Yes, they (S/S) will likely reach higher absolute overclocks, but will do so with a performance hit at every step of the way.

None of the linked ram is what you would really consider benching or -performance ram which is why I threw out that caution. Those products are aimed at the mainstream market and many people don't even realize that they are getting single-sided sticks.
 
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VirtualLarry

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ReefaMadness said:
The performance, however, of single-sided module at the same clocks, is lower than that of a double-sided module...to the tune of about a DDR3-500 differential. In other words, a pair of double-sided DDR3-1600 modules perform about the same as a pair of single-sided DDR3-2133 sticks.
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Btw, is there documentation (benchmarks, superpi runs, LinX GFLOPS, etc) of this anywhere on the internet?

Because this is the first time that I've heard that SS DIMMs are somehow "DDR3 minus 500" speed compared to their rated speed. If this were true, I would think that it would be making the front pages of every tech site, just like the switch from Sync to Async NAND did on the Kingston V300 SSD.
 
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I don't know about performance on Intel, but dual rank helps AMD Kaveri:

Ranked Memory Speeds up Kaveri APU Gaming

"It's now discovered that not only faster memory helps, but ranked memory makes the experience faster as well.

Ranked memory by the way are double sided memory sticks, this means the RAM ICs are on both sides of the APU. Dual rank it seems is some 6…7% faster than single rank clock vs. clock in 3D gaming with Kaveri APU. "

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ranked-memory-speeds-up-kaveri-apu-gaming.html
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I think English is not their first language so this sentence has an error: "Ranked memory by the way are double sided memory sticks, this means the RAM ICs are on both sides of the APU. "

I think they meant both sides of the memory stick instead of both sides of the APU. Both sides of the APU makes no sense.

Another source: http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=483&threadid=171956
 
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Samus

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I've been seeing this stuff a lot lately on the Egg. Is Team decent? It's super cheap (like, the cheapest memory they sell) and I was wondering if anybody knows who their supplier(s) are for memory. How has compatibility been for OEM systems.

I'd appreciate if AT'ers chime in, Newegg reviews are akin to Yahoo Answers these days.
 
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I've got 4x4GB of the DDR3 2133 split between a G3258 machine and a FX-6300 machine. Works fine, no caveats.

The price is up. I got 2 sticks last December for $60, and two more in March for $63. With DDR4 on its way, it is probably a bad time to buy DDR3 unless you have an immediate need.
 
bbhaag

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Samus said:
I've been seeing this stuff a lot lately on the Egg. Is Team decent? It's super cheap (like, the cheapest memory they sell) and I was wondering if anybody knows who their supplier(s) are for memory. How has compatibility been for OEM systems.

I'd appreciate if AT'ers chime in, Newegg reviews are akin to Yahoo Answers these days.
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My only experience with Team products was a 32gb USB 3.0 drive. Its transfer speed was relatively fast but nothing compared to my Mushkin of the same size.
The Team drive died after 4 months of use while my other 3.0 sticks keep chugging along. Of course this was only one drive among thousands that they sell but from now on when I see a deal on Team products I keep looking and don't buy.
 
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