Teaching Revolution In The Making

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Danube

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We can probably say goodbye to feel-good PC teaching. A new Book that dumped abstract theories and observed the best teachers found that gently strict classrooms that push kids are the best for the student and the teacher. I heard the author of this book being interviewed on the Hugh Hewitt a couple weeks and instantly recognized it was about the most profound thing I have heard about teaching in a long time .

The author (Doug Lemov) avoided all the theoretical rubbish and watched a few dozen well regarded teachers in order to discover their techniques. He's really on to something imo.

"Explosive book for a new teacher generation"

"A storm is brewing in teacher training in America. It involves a generational change that we education writers don’t deal with much, but is more important than No Child Left Behind or the Race to the Top grants or other stuff we devote space to. Our urban public schools have many teachers in their twenties and thirties who are more impatient with low standards and more determined to raise student achievement than previous generations of inner city educators, having seen some good examples. But they don’t know what exactly to do.

This new cohort is frustrated with traditional teacher training. They think most education schools are too fond of theory (favorite ed school philosopher John Dewey died in 1952 before many of their parents were born) and too casual about preparing them for the practical challenges of teaching impoverished children.

So they are welcoming a new book. Much-underlined versions of it have been passed around like samizdat literature. Its title, “Teach Like A Champion: 49 Techniques That Put Students on the Path to College,” sounds phony. But the origins of this 332-page paperback, plus DVD, suggest education schools, and local teacher evaluation systems like those in D.C. and Montgomery County, are going to have to deal with it or wish they had.


The author, Doug Lemov, 42, is a managing director of Uncommon Schools, one of the high-performing public charter schools networks leading the charge against school district bureaucracies and old ways of training. He has watched and videoed the moves made and the words spoken by the most successful classroom teachers he knows, then written down the techniques they share.

There is much detail. I was exhausted just reading it. First of the 49 techniques is “No Opt Out,” what you do when a student says she can’t answer your question or doesn’t respond at all. You move to other students, and when you get the right answer return to the first student and insist she repeat what she just heard, proving no one can excuse themselves from your class. Number 38 is “Strong Voice,” speaking clearly and forcefully while standing still in a way that makes it difficult for students NOT to hear what you are saying. Number 49 is “Normalizing Error,” responding to a wrong answer with a quick and non-judgmental effort to get the right one, so students realize that making mistakes is just part of the learning process.

For an technical book aimed at teachers, “Teach Like a Champion” is getting big play, including a March 7 cover story in the New York Times Magazine by GothamSchools.org editor Elizabeth Green. Whether that will produce big results is not so clear.

Many education schools are taking steps in this direction, particularly with video. But Lemov provides more detail than many of them are comfortable with. One professor told me education students can’t be motivated to embrace such methods until they are in a rough classroom fighting to survive. The ed schools give them theory and practice in digestible form, and send them off. If they don’t get a good mentor teacher, they are in trouble.

Teachers creating new evaluation systems in D.C. and Montgomery share some of Lemov’s impatience. What he is offering is hard, and easy to dismiss it as too minimal, too routinized, too basic. Whether it succeeds depends on how many of the restless new generation of teachers are willing to work that hard, when some experts say they don’t need it and the pay isn’t that good anyway.

But as Lemov puts it, methods that work as well as these make the school day go much more quickly and smoothly, and justify the high hopes of this new group of educators."


Explosive book for a new teacher generation

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/class-struggle/2010/04/explosive_book_for_a_new_teach.html


Some videos about the techniques:


Author presentation on why he wrote Teach Like a Champion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1CMvuFLfxc


Teach Like A Champion: Cold Call Technique
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PARfIwF215k&feature=channel

Teach Like a Champion: Getting everyone's attention in class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0ltKOwF_A&feature=channel
 
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ShawnD1

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We can probably say goodbye to feel-good PC teaching. A new Book that dumped abstract theories and observed the best teachers found that gently strict classrooms that push kids are the best for the student and the teacher.

Sorry but this has been known for literally decades. Even when I was in school, it was well understood that nobody worked for slack classes and everyone worked hard for intense classes. We even had motivational speakers come to the school and talk about how humans try to meet expectations. Low expectations = low work quality. High expectations = high work quality.

The current school policies have nothing to do with education and everything to do with satisfying retarded parents who complain when their kids need to do work. No Child Left Behind shows exactly what is wrong with education - people don't give a shit if their kids learn anything as long as they graduate.
 

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Over the years, there have been so many "Teaching Revolutions In The Making", each bold and fresh and new and bound to be the answer to all our education problems.

OP, you should really read up on the history of this wave after wave after wave of bold new educational approaches that have come, and mostly gone, in the past 50-60 years.

EACH ONE was as well presented and alluring as this guy's -- go read up on 'em, you'll see.

Your enthusiasm is admirable, and I dearly hope it's merited, I do, but I can't help thinking you're a little like a kid in the 40's and 50's who's just picked up his very first copy of Popular Science -- Space vacations for all by the 1970's! Nuclear Energy, why it's too cheap to meter! Have You Built You're Personal Commuter Airplane Yet? Soon everyone will have one! Anti-Gravity Machines that Run on Compressed Air! -- and is totally sucked in by the glossy, well written promises.

I hope I'm wrong.

History tells me otherwise, though.
 

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Over the years, there have been so many "Teaching Revolutions In The Making", each bold and fresh and new and bound to be the answer to all our education problems.
Having high expectations and grilling students really does work, but it will never happen. As soon as one kid is "cold called" like in the video and the other kids laugh at how stupid his answer is, the parents will sue, cold calling on students will be against school policy, and the school goes back to producing criminally uneducated graduates.

You know this is exactly what would happen just by looking at how policies have changed over the years
-Kids cannot be touched in any way; you can't even drag the kid out of class by the arm when he's being a wise and beautiful woman. Teachers sometimes need to call the police because they are afraid of being sued when they try to restrain a 10 year old brat.
-Kids cannot be verbally ripped apart by the teacher
-No more dunce cap
-My school was so lame that all physical contact was banned; you can't even play tag.


So now that you know the state of discipline, try being a strict teacher. You ask the kids to stand up and two of them tell you to go fuck yourself. What now? You can't yell at them, you can't hit them, you can't drag them out of class and make them wait outside. You can't even suspend or expel them because the ACLU will say you're violating their right to disrupt your class. Being a good teacher is basically impossible right now.
 

Danube

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So now that you know the state of discipline, try being a strict teacher. You ask the kids to stand up and two of them tell you to go fuck yourself. What now? You can't yell at them, you can't hit them, you can't drag them out of class and make them wait outside. You can't even suspend or expel them because the ACLU will say you're violating their right to disrupt your class. Being a good teacher is basically impossible right now.

I used to be a teacher so I know what your saying. But when I heard this guy speak I saw he was very insightful and right on the money. It was like he was the dog whisperer of teaching. I believe him when he says even average teachers can be more effective and that super teachers aren't just mysteriously born gifted.
 

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I have to agree with Perknose, as I too am pessimistic. IMO, our culture of not giving a shit about education is the primary problem. However, the problems with our elementary and high schools are made worse by mistakes of our politicians and schools fearing lawyers, thus allowing discipline to breakdown and standards to be lowered. One of my friends tells me that in her country, the parents are the primary motivator as far as academic performance is concerned. Prior to college, I would imagine the child taking the initiative to study and do well in school is exceedingly rare without substantial "encouragement" from his or her parents at home.
 

Atreus21

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I have to agree with Perknose, as I too am pessimistic. IMO, our culture of not giving a shit about education is the primary problem. However, the problems with our elementary and high schools are made worse by mistakes of our politicians and schools fearing lawyers, thus allowing discipline to breakdown and standards to be lowered. One of my friends tells me that in her country, the parents are the primary motivator as far as academic performance is concerned. Prior to college, I would imagine the child taking the initiative to study and do well in school is exceedingly rare without substantial "encouragement" from his or her parents at home.

This is going to constitute a serious thread-jack, but I think we do give a shit about education. Public Education seriously hampers our progress.
 

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Being a good teacher is basically impossible right now.

Not impossible but very very hard and very very frustrating. I do hold out a little hope though. It is very anecdotal but my wife and many of her teacher friends are trying to make a difference and seem more fiesty about trying to right the education system than many of the older teachers.

Granted most of them were layed off this year as the schools cut hundreds of teachers (My wife's district removed entire language programs, art teachers, music along with math and english teachers as 20% of the teachers were laid off due to budgetary constraints resulting in class sizes in excess of 35 kids per teacher/room - yet they somehow managed to keep every single administrator, secretary, kitchen worker, janitor, bus driver. No one was cut but the teachers but I digress)
 

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This is going to constitute a serious thread-jack, but I think we do give a shit about education. Public Education seriously hampers our progress.

Publically available education is a good thing but the current formula is (obviously) wrong. Parents vote for the Senior Admin staff of the district. Parents have voted in people who cater to their desires even if what they want is in direct opposition to what their kids need. (New rules setting lowest grade allowed, no winners/loosers)The Senior Admin then pushes on the schools to not upset parents since that would be bad for the Senior Admin's job security. Don't want to upset the voters after all - even if the voters have absolutely no idea how to teach or what needs to be done to teach. New rules are put in place that forces teachers away from what is needed.

Actually the education system seems a decent microcosm of our political problems
 

OutHouse

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OP, you should really read up on the history of this wave after wave after wave of bold new educational approaches that have come, and mostly gone, in the past 50-60 years.

thats the truth. all 3 of my kids have gone through the same elementary school and EVERY other year there was some "new" teaching program/approach that would be implemented through out the school. this year it was writing, it was a bear to get my son who was in the 5th grade to sit down and get him to write page after page after page after page for his home work. I swear to God he wrote more papers last year in the 5th grade than i did all throughout high school.
 

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Having a 2nd grader and a Kindergardener, I am sick and tired of these emotionless, overly PC, soft spoken teachers.

The teachers that made lasting impressions on me were the ones who weren't afraid to be themselves; the ones that set a bar and dared you to jump over it.
 

Jaskalas

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I swear to God he wrote more papers last year in the 5th grade than i did all throughout high school.

In lieu of fixing the failure in the classroom, they attempt to make up for it with excess repetition in homework. It makes the kids hate school more than they already did.
 

piasabird

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Sounds like this is assuming the teacher knows everything and has all the answers. My son was board in his classes in high school because he knew more than the teachers on certain subjects. One time a math instructor challenged him and he did the proof for what he was doing on the blackboard. He never got along with that instructor again.
 

Danube

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thats the truth. all 3 of my kids have gone through the same elementary school and EVERY other year there was some "new" teaching program/approach that would be implemented through out the school. this year it was writing, it was a bear to get my son who was in the 5th grade to sit down and get him to write page after page after page after page for his home work. I swear to God he wrote more papers last year in the 5th grade than i did all throughout high school.

This author and his book are coming to the system from outside in more than inside out. This is not another of those "Compact For Learning" things that are like 5 year plans or the "great leap forward" in communist countries.

New York Times magazine also wrote an article about this guy
Building a Better Teacher

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/magazine/07Teachers-t.html?ref=magazine

"THESE DAYS LEMOV is almost single-mindedly focused on the mechanics of teaching, the secret steps behind getting and holding the floor whether you’re teaching fractions or the American Revolution. The subject-free focus is a deliberate decision. “I believe in content-based professional development, obviously,” he told me. “But I feel like it’s insufficient. . . . It doesn’t matter what questions you’re asking if the kids are running the classroom.”
 

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Having high expectations and grilling students really does work, but it will never happen. As soon as one kid is "cold called" like in the video and the other kids laugh at how stupid his answer is, the parents will sue, cold calling on students will be against school policy, and the school goes back to producing criminally uneducated graduates.

You know this is exactly what would happen just by looking at how policies have changed over the years
-Kids cannot be touched in any way; you can't even drag the kid out of class by the arm when he's being a wise and beautiful woman. Teachers sometimes need to call the police because they are afraid of being sued when they try to restrain a 10 year old brat.
-Kids cannot be verbally ripped apart by the teacher
-No more dunce cap
-My school was so lame that all physical contact was banned; you can't even play tag.


So now that you know the state of discipline, try being a strict teacher. You ask the kids to stand up and two of them tell you to go fuck yourself. What now? You can't yell at them, you can't hit them, you can't drag them out of class and make them wait outside. You can't even suspend or expel them because the ACLU will say you're violating their right to disrupt your class. Being a good teacher is basically impossible right now.

Until I was 11 I lived in Trinidad where teachers beat kids, ridicule them, make them wear dunce caps, post test scores in order from 1st to last, etc.

And look how that country is doing... Crime out of control, corruption everywhere, poor standard of living for the vast majority.

I got a better education here, even in somewhat rough urban Houston middle school. I know you'd rather beat kids and make them feel like idiots, but American teaching methods work.
 

DanDaManJC

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This is going to constitute a serious thread-jack, but I think we do give a shit about education. Public Education seriously hampers our progress.

Going with the thread jacking... I would have to disagree.

It probably has more to do with where you live than anything else... but I went to a school with a mix of middle and low class kids. The middle class kids had college-educated parents and all cared about their education... the mid-low class kids all had blue collar parents and were more concerned with their 4x4s and chew.

There were exceptions to the rule... but it really was a cultural thing that followed class lines pretty closely.
 
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