Teaching Creationism As Science Now Banned In All UK Public Schools

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Thebobo

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We cant do that as a nation but we could with sates and by how much money the fed gives to them.

Teaching creationism as scientifically valid now banned in all UK public schools
Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...K-public-schools/5631403128922/#ixzz35BWBikQj​

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Genx87

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I say we do the same in this country. Creationism belongs in a theology class, not science.
 
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Jhhnn

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Genx87 said:
I say we do the same in this country. Creationism belongs in a theology class, not science.
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Persecuting Christians for their most cherished beliefs, huh?

Why, you're condemning millions to eternal hellfire & damnation because they'll never receive the Word of God!

It's an evil plot between Leftists & the Devil to enforce Sharia Law! It all started when they pushed God out of the classroom, brought Sex-ed in! The End Times are upon us!
 
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Jhhnn said:
Persecuting Christians for their most cherished beliefs, huh?

Why, you're condemning millions to eternal hellfire & damnation because they'll never receive the Word of God!

It's an evil plot between Leftists & the Devil to enforce Sharia Law! It all started when they pushed God out of the classroom, brought Sex-ed in! The End Times are upon us!
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sarcasm ftw!

seriously when was creationism ever a science. need a whole lotta bs to make that connection.
 
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I never heard of creationism in a science class before. Sure, it was in my world religion class but never in my biology class.

Even as a Catholic I don't believe in Creationism like the masses think of Creationism. I believe God created the universe and the laws of physics, and allowed the universe to evolve. Think of it like this: God created the big bang and the universe was born by his actions.
 
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brandonb said:
I never heard of creationism in a science class before. Sure, it was in my world religion class but never in my biology class.

Even as a Catholic I don't believe in Creationism like the masses think of Creationism. I believe God created the universe and the laws of physics, and allowed the universe to evolve. Think of it like this: God created the big bang and the universe was born by his actions.
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The Catholic church actually supports evolution. Admittedly, they do say god helped, but they still believe in evolution. It's the Evangelicals who are really pushing the whole young earth nonsense.
 
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Looks like the Brits don't want to handicap their students with nonsense, good for them. We should be doing the exact same thing.

You want to indoctrinate your kids with religious pseudo science and histrionics, fine, but you should be wasting your own time and money on that instead of expecting public schools to adhere to your personal views on "education."


Listen up Texas, we're looking at you.
 
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This is the elite forcing their certainty over the certainty of others because they ate sure hey are right. This is. Just like evolution being banned if the majority were fools.

This rather bothers me even though I too am sure evolution is correct.
 
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Moonbeam said:
This is the elite forcing their certainty over the certainty of others because they ate sure hey are right. This is. Just like evolution being banned if the majority were fools.

This rather bothers me even though I too am sure evolution is correct.
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It's being banned from being taught in schools, as it should be, unless you think absolutely anything should be allowed into the curricula? It's also nothing like evolution being banned from being taught, since evolution is an indisputable fact. Facts aren't "just like [faith]." This is where your relativism becomes ridiculous.
 
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justoh said:
It's being banned from being taught in schools, as it should be, unless you think absolutely anything should be allowed into the curricula? It's also nothing like evolution being banned from being taught, since evolution is an indisputable fact. Facts aren't "just like [faith]." This is where your relativism becomes ridiculous.
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Evolution was still a theory 20 years ago when I was in HS... Has it been proven yet, scientifically?
 
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justoh said:
It's being banned from being taught in schools, as it should be, unless you think absolutely anything should be allowed into the curricula? It's also nothing like evolution being banned from being taught, since evolution is an indisputable fact. Facts aren't "just like [faith]." This is where your relativism becomes ridiculous.
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Today you wii ban teaching creationism in schools and tomorrow you will ban conservative thinking because neither are facts and both are ridiculous faith. Folk like you are dangerous because of your certainty. There are no Christian fundamentalists who think that what they believe aren't facts, exactly like you do. I
I like my fact holders to hold first to modesty.
 
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brandonb said:
Evolution was still a theory 20 years ago when I was in HS... Has it been proven yet, scientifically?
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Scientific theory and theory aren't the same thing. Apparently your teacher failed explaining the difference to you. The term is used colloquially and it completely screws up people's understanding of the word.
 
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Moonbeam said:
Today you wii ban teaching creationism in schools and tomorrow you will ban conservative thinking because neither are facts and both are ridiculous faith. Folk like you are dangerous because of your certainty. There are no Christian fundamentalists who think that what they believe aren't facts, exactly like you do. I
I like my fact holders to hold first to modesty.
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You seem confused.

Teaching science in a science class is appropriate.

They can discuss, religion, political thought, philosophy, or whatever they want, where appropriate.

And science, or specifically evolution, doesn't intentionally or explicitly deny faith. There are implications which I think necessarily challenge religious belief, inadvertently, but they aren't being taught what to believe or what not to believe.

Not teaching creationism isn't an endorsement of reason, nor is it denouncing faith.

You can't compare banning faith being taught as fact with facts being taught as facts. You can't compare teaching evolution with teaching creationism or intelligent design in the way you try to. Well, you can, but you'll just come across as confused, even if well-intentioned.
 
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brandonb said:
Evolution was still a theory 20 years ago when I was in HS... Has it been proven yet, scientifically?
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Did you sleep through the class? The theory of evolution offers a logical explanation and predictive tool that nicely explains all kinds of relationships between did detest living things, both in the fossil record and genetically with DNA etc, to such a degree of elegance that scientists believe it's what actually happened.
 
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Moonbeam said:
This is the elite forcing their certainty over the certainty of others because they ate sure hey are right. This is. Just like evolution being banned if the majority were fools.

This rather bothers me even though I too am sure evolution is correct.
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The question then becomes how do you establish what to teach? How would you teach history?

At some point, you have tested something enough to teach it. Evolution predicts and comes up with the correct answers. Creationism does not give any testable predictions, and thus is not science. This has nothing to do with the elite, but subject matter and its classification. Evolution may be wrong, but the things its predicting are accurate, so the theory is thought.

You are only looking at a political issue that both sides have in common, and that is each side thinks they are "right". The difference is that the side of evolution is on the side of the scientific method, and Creationism is on the side of theology.
 
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