Teachers

[gothamhunter]

Thoughts? I realize I forgot the paid adequately option.

Some food for thought:

Generally speaking, minus the outliers.
Teachers are required to take courses and pay for their license throughout their teaching career in order to maintain a license.

Some say the job is a cushy one because it's 8-3; most are usually there 7-4 at least, and then take work home and spend hours at home grading, reading, correcting, etc...

Breaks are usually spent taking courses, lesson planning, meeting with other staff, and learning the format of the new course material.

Parents are putting more pressure on teachers to also become the babysitter and parents for the students; a lot do not take or "have" the time to teach their children discipline or manners at home, which highly affect their behavior at school.

Average starting salary for private schools: $25,000
Average starting salary for public schools: $34,700

Neither amounts take into account cost of living for said areas, so $34,700 might seem like a lot to us in the Midwest, but over in Cali it's probably just above surviving - take that into account before you think that they're making an excellent amount of money. For example, average starting salary for public school teacher in Iowa is $27,200.

 

[Platypus]

extremely underpaid, overworked and forced to teach utter bullshit so their kids can pass mandatory exams in a lot of cases.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I'm hot for teacher.

 

[poopaskoopa]

Where is "about right"?

 

[lothar]

Depends on what subjects they are teaching.

 

[LookBehindYou]

The unions ruin it for the good teachers. The shitty teachers can't be fired so they ruin it for the good ones.

So, the good ones are underpaid, not overworked or underworked.

The shitty ones are obviously overpaid.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Where's the "paid adequately for their workload, but everyone wants more $$$" option?


You can make the same option for LEOs as well.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Considering the hours and job requirements, VERY overpaid and underworked. In my state average teacher salary is close to 60K for teaching kids that 7+9 = 15. Or 17. Or pi. Either way, close enough, you pass, move on to the next grade.

 

[Dumac]

Most teachers that I have met don't care about what they do. They view it as a shitty job, and they are a shitty teacher as a consequence.

A few teachers really care and want their kids to learn, and they go above and beyond to achieve this. Its sad to see these few teachers, who put so much effort into their job, be paid like they do, but I really can't justify giving the other 99% of lazy, crappy teachers a payraise just for the 1% that are decent.

 

[BoomerD]

Depends on your perspective.

Grossly overpaid babysitters...since that seems to be what MOST people consider them...

BUT, as educators, they're underpaid, overworked, and usually tasked with trying to educate children who don't want to learn, don't want to be in school, who have parents who just don't fucking care...as long as the school acts as a babysitter while they work. Around here, teachers are also expected to buy some school supplies out of their own pockets...something that should be the responsibility of either the parents, or the school district.

 

[Dumac]

Considering the hours and job requirements, VERY overpaid and underworked. In my state average teacher salary is close to 60K for teaching kids that 7+9 = 15. Or 17. Or pi. Either way, close enough, you pass, move on to the next grade.

60k? Wtf?

Where I grew up it was around 30k...

 

[SandEagle]

they get 2.5 months off for the summer too

 

[BoomerD]

they get 2.5 months off for the summer too

If you don't count all the classes they're required to take every year to maintain their teaching certs...

 

[gothamhunter]

they get 2.5 months off for the summer too

That they usually spend the entire time taking required courses and paying for the continuance of their license, cleaning out and organizing their room, and making lesson plans for the following year.

 

[MotF Bane]

For the bad teachers, overpaid and underworked.

For the good teachers, underpaid and overworked.

 

[biostud]

Less interference from politicians and other "know-it-alls" and more focus on actual teaching = win

(been working as a teacher for 3.5 years, luckily on a private school in Denmark, where the salary is ok, the kids are quite motivated, and I can teach the way I find is best)

 

[GagHalfrunt]

60k? Wtf?

Where I grew up it was around 30k...

Where did you grow up, Burkina Faso? Here in the USA nationwide average teacher salary is low 50s and average STARTING salary is over 30K. And teachers generally get good benefits. They earn a well above average income for a safe, secure, indoor job with low stress levels and union protection.

 

[HAL9000]

a couple of questions.

1) Why do you have to have a teaching license in America?!
2) Why are public school teachers paid more than private school teachers in America?!

 

[gothamhunter]

a couple of questions.

1) Why do you have to have a teaching license in America?!
2) Why are public school teachers paid more than private school teachers in America?!

1) Generally, it's to ensure they know what they're teaching.

2) Little to no government aid; usually Catholic based schools that get 95% of their funding from the community, so overall lower income and therefore lower cash available to pay the teachers.

 

[MotF Bane]

a couple of questions.

1) Why do you have to have a teaching license in America?!
2) Why are public school teachers paid more than private school teachers in America?!

2) Government funding versus private funding, is that even really a question? Of course the public school teachers get paid more.

 

[Dumac]

If you don't count all the classes they're required to take every year to maintain their teaching certs...

That they usually spend the entire time taking required courses and paying for the continuance of their license, cleaning out and organizing their room, and making lesson plans for the following year.

False. At least in my state growing up, teachers basically just partied all summer break.

Cleaning/organizing the room just takes a few days, lesson plans aren't started till the week before school, and there nobody is taking classes unless they are going for their masters.

 

[Dumac]

Where did you grow up, Burkina Faso? Here in the USA nationwide average teacher salary is low 50s and average STARTING salary is over 30K. And teachers generally get good benefits. They earn a well above average income for a safe, secure, indoor job with low stress levels and union protection.

http://teacherportal.com/salary/Louisiana-teacher-salary

I was talking about starting salary

 

[gothamhunter]

False. At least in my state growing up, teachers basically just partied all summer break.

Cleaning/organizing the room just takes a few days, lesson plans aren't started till the week before school, and there nobody is taking classes unless they are going for their masters.

Where are these teachers at? I know some teachers that might be interested in moving.

 

[HAL9000]

2) Government funding versus private funding, is that even really a question? Of course the public school teachers get paid more.

Well no, not at all that makes absolutely no sense what so ever, in the UK a private school teacher get's a hell of a lot more than a public school teacher.

With rich parents paying for their kids to go the school, obviously the school has a lot more money.

 

[Dumac]

Where are these teachers at? I know some teachers that might be interested in moving.

See above.

Louisiana doesn't have one of the worst rated educational programs for nothin