Teacher placed on leave over quiz questions

[realibrad]

After taking the test I didn't see it as being as bad as it is being portrayed. They could have left off the brother/sister banging question and it probably would have flown.

What was your score?

• Your scores:

• Care 89%

• Loyalty 50%

• Fairness 92%

• Authority 53%

• Purity 8%

• Liberty 58%

Your strongest moral foundation is Fairness.

Your morality is closest to that of a Left-Liberal.

 

[sandorski]

What was your score?

• Your scores:

• Care 89%

• Loyalty 50%

• Fairness 92%

• Authority 53%

• Purity 8%

• Liberty 58%

Your strongest moral foundation is Fairness.

Your morality is closest to that of a Left-Liberal.

You Commie....

 

[realibrad]

You Commie....

As my Russian friends would say when they thank me, suka blyad. They are such a nice people.

 

[ElFenix]

Dan turns up the TV just as his father is talking about his military service.

depends, is it the time dad and his .mil buddies had that one night in vegas he's talked about eleventy billion times?

 

[lxskllr]

 

[realibrad]

Better luck next time. Did you even study for this test?

 

[lxskllr]

Better luck next time. Did you even study for this test?

I don't have a sister :^(

 

[realibrad]

I don't have a sister :^(

I've got a spare in my trunk. Its yours if you want it.

 

[Darwin333]

Yep. We also know that its a bad idea now given the data. Can't say that without getting some upset though.

What do those numbers represent?

 

[Darwin333]

What was your score?

• Your scores:

• Care 89%

• Loyalty 50%

• Fairness 92%

• Authority 53%

• Purity 8%

• Liberty 58%

Your strongest moral foundation is Fairness.

Your morality is closest to that of a Left-Liberal.

I already closed it out but it portrayed me as overall left-leaning, one category wasn't but I don't recall which one, which is fairly true. I don't like to group myself into left or right, I take each issue and let it rattle around in my brain for a bit and then come to my own conclusion. I have some issues that I'm "left" on and others that I'm "right" on.

 

[allisolm]

That's not a morality test. It's a political test in which someone - maybe the "professional political analysts" who helped make the test - label your "morality" as belonging to left-liberal , conservative, or libertarian groups. Which groups align with "okay" as an answer for the incest question?

 

[Darwin333]

Seems like an overreaction, but given the litigious nature of some pearl-clutching parents, I understand.
"Little Jimmy never thought about nailing his sister Sally until he read this filthy, filthy quiz!"

Oh man, I can definitely see a parent find out that their kids are banging each other and blaming the test.

 

[realibrad]

What do those numbers represent?

The probability of appearance for a recessive mutation with a frequency of 0.001 (1 out of 1,000 people are carriers) per million babies. Different degrees of relatedness are calculated. The probability of a child being born with two copies of a recessive mutation falls rapidly toward the background level (‘unrelated’) as the degree of relatedness goes down. This is an extreme example because most mutations are not nearly this common.

Its a way of illustrating the chance that a recessive mutation with a low frequency plays out. Its not a measure of a specific mutation, but, it could be extrapolated. Its math basically.

There is also this.

In children of unrelated couples, the risk of congenital and genetic including recessive problems is usually estimated at about 2-3 per cent. First cousins have a higher risk of recessive problems in children than unrelated couples because they share 12.5 per cent of their genetic material and may have inherited the same mutation from a common ancestor. Risk to their children is usually estimated at about double the risk of congenital and genetic problems in children of unrelated couples. At about 4-6 per cent, this doubled risk is also a 94-96 per cent chance that their child will be perfectly healthy. A cousin couple is thus more likely to have a healthy child than to have a child with a recessive problem.

So, that 12.5% of genetic material that first cousins share. If you look at cultures where first cousins regularly marry, you can get a much higher average. When they looked at British Pakistani people, they estimated that the risk would be as high as 10%. So, if you have a culture where first cousins regularly have kids, your chance of two parents having a recessive gene is higher as the genetic diversity goes down.

 

[realibrad]

Oh man, I can definitely see a parent find out that their kids are banging each other and blaming the test.

It is Florida, so its possible.

 

[Midwayman]

Some of the questions are just terrible. Like the one about a men's only club, and then women suing them. Those are two conflicting statments that I might have very different opinions about. Which one am I rating?

 

[Darwin333]

There is also this.



So, that 12.5% of genetic material that first cousins share. If you look at cultures where first cousins regularly marry, you can get a much higher average. When they looked at British Pakistani people, they estimated that the risk would be as high as 10%. So, if you have a culture where first cousins regularly have kids, your chance of two parents having a recessive gene is higher as the genetic diversity goes down.

I assume that is because the practice keeps continuing generation after generation. It seems like that would have a compounding effect.

 

[realibrad]

I assume that is because the practice keeps continuing generation after generation. It seems like that would have a compounding effect.

Yep. That is why it gets people upset. You do it for so long and it starts to become "culture". So even though its a biological fact, you start saying people should not be allowed to marry their first cousin and its an affront to their culture. This started becoming an topic, and then you started seeing articles come out saying first cousin is not actually so bad.

So you get things like this written.

As Dyer writes, British researchers formally crunched the numbers and determined that for any given individual, with much variation, a marriage between first cousins roughly doubles the rate of unmasking compared to non-relative marriages (~6% instead of ~3%). Nevertheless, British authorities determined that despite the increased risk, most children of cousin marriage are healthy. And at least one doctor noted that “it was counter productive to single out a culture and that such an approach risked alienating the Pakistani community.” She added: “‘We know that the risk of Down’s syndrome increases with advancing maternal age, but we don’t see [urge] mothers to have children younger.’”

Note that those numbers are looking at the UK population average and not the average of people that come from backgrounds where first cousin marriage is normal. That 6% should be much closer to 10%. So yeah, its a taboo subject even though science has some clear points to make on this.

 

[Cozarkian]

Which groups align with "okay" as an answer for the incest question?

I suspect that one is liberty v. purity, but it could also have a dash of authority if they assume the test-taker would believe it is against the law.

Some of the questions are just terrible. Like the one about a men's only club, and then women suing them. Those are two conflicting statments that I might have very different opinions about. Which one am I rating?

Whether it was okay for the women to sue.

 

[Darwin333]

Yep. That is why it gets people upset. You do it for so long and it starts to become "culture". So even though its a biological fact, you start saying people should not be allowed to marry their first cousin and its an affront to their culture. This started becoming an topic, and then you started seeing articles come out saying first cousin is not actually so bad.

So you get things like this written.



Note that those numbers are looking at the UK population average and not the average of people that come from backgrounds where first cousin marriage is normal. That 6% should be much closer to 10%. So yeah, its a taboo subject even though science has some clear points to make on this.

Wow, in the US marrying your first cousin is legal in 24 states and we are the only country in the Western world that bans marrying first cousins at all.

Also of interest that I found: Albert Einstein’s parents were first cousins. Then Albert married his own first cousin. Elsa Lowenthal, Einstein’s second wife, was his first cousin on his mother’s side. In fact, they were also “double cousins.” Lowenthal also happened to be Einstein’s second cousin on his father’s side.

 

[realibrad]

Wow, in the US marrying your first cousin is legal in 24 states and we are the only country in the Western world that bans marrying first cousins at all.

Also of interest that I found: Albert Einstein’s parents were first cousins. Then Albert married his own first cousin. Elsa Lowenthal, Einstein’s second wife, was his first cousin on his mother’s side. In fact, they were also “double cousins.” Lowenthal also happened to be Einstein’s second cousin on his father’s side.

So funny story.

My sister started dating a firefighter. They were dating for a few weeks, and she went over to his parents house for the first time. When she got there, she saw a picture of our cousin Nicole. She does a double take, and then stops, and turns to him and asks "um, why do you have a picture of my cousin?". He promptly responds with "you mean my cousin Nicole". So my cousin fucker sister was dating a cousin. No blood relation, but you better damn well believe that my nickname for her is now cousin fucker. They broke up a few weeks after.

Also note that my family does indeed come from Kentucky. Go team go!

 

[Cozarkian]

So funny story.

My sister started dating a firefighter. They were dating for a few weeks, and she went over to his parents house for the first time. When she got there, she saw a picture of our cousin Nicole. She does a double take, and then stops, and turns to him and asks "um, why do you have a picture of my cousin?". He promptly responds with "you mean my cousin Nicole". So my cousin fucker sister was dating a cousin. No blood relation, but you better damn well believe that my nickname for her is now cousin fucker. They broke up a few weeks after.

Also note that my family does indeed come from Kentucky. Go team go!

They waited a few weeks!!!

I get why the initial reaction is "Ewww," but honestly, it's one of those situations where if you step back at look at it rationally, there really isn't anything wrong with it.

It is a funny story though, and I would also probably harass my sister for it.

 

[Thebobo]

Moral Foundations Test
Result: Your Moral Foundations Are:

• Your scores:

• Care 75%

• Loyalty 50%

• Fairness 86%

• Authority 44%

• Purity 44%

• Liberty 56%

Your strongest moral foundation is Fairness.
Your morality is closest to that of a Left-Liberal.

Interesting.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

While I kind of agree, what exactly does this question help with:

"A man orders a custom-built sex doll designed to look just like his niece.”

is fantasy only fantasy when it's in your mind?

 

[Darwin333]

So funny story.

My sister started dating a firefighter. They were dating for a few weeks, and she went over to his parents house for the first time. When she got there, she saw a picture of our cousin Nicole. She does a double take, and then stops, and turns to him and asks "um, why do you have a picture of my cousin?". He promptly responds with "you mean my cousin Nicole". So my cousin fucker sister was dating a cousin. No blood relation, but you better damn well believe that my nickname for her is now cousin fucker. They broke up a few weeks after.

Also note that my family does indeed come from Kentucky. Go team go!

Aww man, if I was her I would have had some fun with it. Brought him home to meet the parents "So Mom and Dad, this is my Boyfriend and we just found out that we are cousins too! How cool is that?" Just to watch the color drain from their faces and hear the stuttering as they try to find the words.

 

[Darwin333]

is fantasy only fantasy when it's in your mind?

Yup.