TCPA and Longhorn is coming, time for linux ?

[dzt]

TCPA (trusted computing platform alliance) is coming, MS Longhorn will support it.
see www.trustedcomputing.org
Copying files, creating backups, sharing medias, installing hardware, initialize drivers and so on will never be the same, it will be a lot more difficult, harder, and of course expensive.
Will next linux developer support TCPA or not ? (better not)
Can TCPAed mobo installed with non-TCPA hardware (examp recent VGA card) and using non-TCPA software (examp WinME or Linux) ?

Anyway, if linux can support all my programs (especially games), I won't use MS stuffs anymore.
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[Spyro]

Anyway, if linux can support all my programs (especially games), I won't use MS stuffs anymore.

Most new games can be run on linux by using transgamings WINEX, but linux also has its own games. Go to the os section and google for games, I made a list of them a while ago.

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Well, there may be, but then these threads are always such great fun

 

[Nothinman]

It's been time for Linux for quite some time now, what took you so long =)

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

If you are ready for something new, and are willing to learn, then go for it. If you just want a windows replacement, you're better off with a mac.

 

[calpha]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
If you are ready for something new, and are willing to learn, then go for it. If you just want a windows replacement, you're better off with a mac.

That's the best advice I've ever heard relating to someone wanting to "try" linux.

 

[notfred]

As far as I know, Apple has no plans to support TCPA.

 

[dzt]

Originally posted by: Tyler
As far as I know, Apple has no plans to support TCPA.

Thanks for the advice.
I'll try Mac and start to dump my MS.
What about the combination of TCPA mobo (with special controller chip which will fully controls the CPU) with non-TCPA hardware. Will they run normally ?

 

[Nothinman]

As far as I know, Apple has no plans to support TCPA.

For now. If the music and movie people see MS supporting their attempts to limit distribution of their wares, you don't think they'll start shutting Apple out unless they comply?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

As far as I know, Apple has no plans to support TCPA.

For now. If the music and movie people see MS supporting their attempts to limit distribution of their wares, you don't think they'll start shutting Apple out unless they comply?

You don't think TCPA is an attempt by M$ to shut down Linux?

 

[Spyro]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Nothinman

As far as I know, Apple has no plans to support TCPA.

For now. If the music and movie people see MS supporting their attempts to limit distribution of their wares, you don't think they'll start shutting Apple out unless they comply?

You don't think TCPA is an attempt by M$ to shut down Linux?

That mey be a factor, but it seems to me that the TCPA has other benefits as well

 

[hudster]

the TCPA is evil...

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

As far as I know, Apple has no plans to support TCPA.

For now. If the music and movie people see MS supporting their attempts to limit distribution of their wares, you don't think they'll start shutting Apple out unless they comply?

Which is why Apple recently started up a store distributing music over the internet and MS hasn't, despite it's support for TCPA?

 

[Nothinman]

Which is why Apple recently started up a store distributing music over the internet and MS hasn't, despite it's support for TCPA?

It still has to be shown whether the Win32 users will accept the limitations the MPAA/RIAA want to impose or not, if they fall in line and do as the MPAA/RIAA want you don't think Apple will be forced to comply or stop distribution?

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

Which is why Apple recently started up a store distributing music over the internet and MS hasn't, despite it's support for TCPA?

It still has to be shown whether the Win32 users will accept the limitations the MPAA/RIAA want to impose or not, if they fall in line and do as the MPAA/RIAA want you don't think Apple will be forced to comply or stop distribution?

If thier store is doing well they'll keep on selling regardless. the RIAA's primary goal is to sell music.

 

[CubicZirconia]

you're better off with a mac.

Have fun playing games with a mac.

 

[edmicman]

couldn't you just keep using whatever high end machines are out before those technologies are enacted? i mean, how long will it be before you can't do what you want to do on a winXP 3GHz P4?

 

[Nothinman]

If thier store is doing well they'll keep on selling regardless. the RIAA's primary goal is to sell music.

Their primary goal is to control and make money off the sales of music, if Apple is selling 'easily pirateable' MP3s the RIAA probably won't care how much they're selling. They'll make Apple convert to whatever crappy format supports DRM enforcements, probably WMA.

couldn't you just keep using whatever high end machines are out before those technologies are enacted? i mean, how long will it be before you can't do what you want to do on a winXP 3GHz P4?

Quite frankly the only people this is going to hurt badly is the media pirates, the people who download MP3s, DVD rips, etc all day. And atleast the first few revisions will be disableable in the firmware with the only real repurcussion being that you can't play or run 'trusted' apps and media.

 

[JackBurton]

It looks like I'll be learning Linux REALLY fast! I was also looking for an excusing to go to Apple, and this is a good one. :| This is BS! The RIAA and MPAA don't tell MS what to do, MS does WHATEVER they like and everyone else has to like it. The RIAA/MPAA can't pressure MS, they can only offer "incentive" to help MS see it their way. Like I said, this is BS! I like MS, but they are trying to squeeze more and more all in the wrong places.

 

[Spyro]

All the kings horses and all the kings men......

I wonder how long the RIAA, MPAA, etc. will be given free reign.......

I'm also wonder how much a small down payment on a member of congress costs on average..... :/

 

[notfred]

Originally posted by: Nothinman

If thier store is doing well they'll keep on selling regardless. the RIAA's primary goal is to sell music.

Their primary goal is to control and make money off the sales of music, if Apple is selling 'easily pirateable' MP3s the RIAA probably won't care how much they're selling. They'll make Apple convert to whatever crappy format supports DRM enforcements, probably WMA.

They're not selling MP3s. Maybe you should go read up on Apple's music store.

 

[JackBurton]

I'm also wonder how much a small down payment on a member of congress costs on average..... :/

Exactly! :|

 

[dzt]

hardware support ?

 

[BFG10K]

Well I was opposed to product activation on Windows XP but after I started using it I realised it wasn't a big deal at all. I haven't even managed to trigger reactivation by changing my devices and only once did I have to ring the free phone number for around five minutes to reactivate it because I had reinstalled Windows XP after a motherboard swap.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'll wait and see how the whole TCPA issue turns out in practice before I start getting upset about it.

 

[Glitchny]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
Well I was opposed to product activation on Windows XP but after I started using it I realised it wasn't a big deal at all. I haven't even managed to trigger reactivation by changing my devices and only once did I have to ring the free phone number for around five minutes to reactivate it because I had reinstalled Windows XP after a motherboard swap.

I guess what I'm saying is that I'll wait and see how the whole TCPA issue turns out in practice before I start getting upset about it.

5 min? that damn reactivation thing took 30min for me, writing down numbers that are 30 digits long while on the phone and punching them inot the keypad is not my idea of simple or necessary for me to own the damn computer

 

[Nothinman]

They're not selling MP3s. Maybe you should go read up on Apple's music store.

Sorry, they're selling AAC files which looking at their and the AAC site doesn't look like it has any DRM enforcement capabilities anyway.

And are you telling me iTunes can't take AAC files and make MP3s from them?