Taxes Suck ! All you poor people get a job.

[Ynog]

I think the funniest comment about taxes, i every heard from someone was from one of my younger cousins friends.

This kid was a senior in high school, and he said
"Taxes aren't that bad, because you get all the money back when you get your tax return anyway."

Took us a while to explain to him, how taxes work when you don't make under the minimum.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: se7enty7

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: se7enty7
My ex gf's dad was laid off from verizon he sat around all day collecting unemployment. He would look for a job on thursdays only. Nice to know my tax money is going towards something productive.

For a spoiled brat always given a silver spoon I can understand such laziness, but from an adult with a family that's unacceptable, and pathetic.

He's a single father, with one daughter grown up and out of the house; and the other one on her way out. He lucked into some rental propery (purchased from my family for cheap, actually.) and get's about $400 a month from that (mortgage - rent == $600ish) and I'm assuming he had some savings. All in all; he's a lazy bum.


What bothers me MUCH more is when I was growing up there were some kids in my best friends neighborhood who's parents never worked. They always talked about waiting for their welfare checks and whatnot. In specific; there was one father who was always outside playing basketball with his friends. When I was little I always wondered why he didn't have to work.. Now I know.

Why work when you can stay home at eat at my tax dollars?

Welfare should be a degenerate thing. As in; the checks get lower and lower as time goes on. Also; after the first child people should NOT get tax breaks. Also if someone is on welfare any more than two children should lower tax breaks. I've heard over and over again about women on welfare having kids for the tax benefits.

Yeah, its kind of a mess. Some people actually need it, but it seems like a whole lot more of them just are looking for a handout. I've heard trashy people say things like "Its takes about 5 kids to make a good living." Are these really the people we want reproducing? LOL.

Welfare takes .07 cents of each tax dollar. The biggest cut goes to Social Security with .22 cents out of each tax dollar followed by defense and interest on the debt at .16 cents and .15 cents respectively. I don't know what the political agenda of the below link is but that picture seems in line with what I have read elsewhere regarding how the Federal budget breaks down per tax dollar.

Little illustration of where a tax dollar goes.

A little misleading when someone is talking about doing their federal income tax... as SS does NOT come out of federal income taxes, but is taxed seperately in your withholding. Show a breakdown of where your federal INCOME tax goes, not FICA.

And to add to my comments...

It's even more misleading than that. Since FICA is a fixed %, but income taxes are not, that % varies widely. It will be much higher of a % of total taxes for the poor woman with kids getting all of her income taxes back plus a handout for EIC... but FICA is not diminished. And it will be a much lower % of total taxes paid by the single, childless person making over 100,000 a year and paying 30 some odd % of their net income in taxes.

Adding FICA into the mix is a scam to make other entitlement programs look smaller by comparison.

 

[Nitemare]

I work 65-70+ hours a week on 2 jobs and agree with you wholeheartedly. Let the mofo's do without. I don't bust my ass so you can sit on yours and do nothing but watch TV all day and reproduce more of your leeches to suck my wallet dry.

I wish we had checkboxes on our tax returns for where we wanted our money to go.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: Zombie
well deductions were from sale of stock options so it was a 1 time flat tax. I thought bush reduced the taxes :|

He did numbskull, it used to be flat 28% on stock option exercise, now it's 25%. And regardless, if you're effective tax rate is less than 25% you'll get it back.

 

[Dedpuhl]

The EIC is garbage and needs to go.

I also think social security needs to go. If you don't prepare for your future, then why the hell should I pay for you?

Disabled veterans, cripples, and retarded citizens should be able to receive more assistance than some lazy, no-good pile of excrement w/ 5 kids and no job...collecting welfare, food stamps, and unemployment.

I hate our socialist tax system.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: LAUST
IIRC companies pay for Unemployment, taxes pay for welfare.

some states impose employee unemployment tax also.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Texas doesn't suck!





:beer:

 

[nageov3t]

I don't mind giving money to the government. I like having my roads paved, and I like that my snail mail gets to where it needs to go.

what I resent is the fact that what I pay per month in social security taxes could pay my monthly food pill, or several of my utilities. I mean, it's not as if I'll be collecting social security when *I* retire.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

During the Reagan era, I had an university lab tech job and I made $12500 a year. I had to pay taxes. I did not mind that my taxes went to help less fortunate than me, poor people and people down on their luck. I have relatives who have been on welfare in the past. But it bothered me that most of my taxes went for welfare for people who did not need the help. And that people who made a lot more money than I did actually were paying less taxes than me

 

[Michael]

If you're paying taxes, then you're making money.

You cashed in stock options at a profit and you're complaining that you have to pay taxes on it?

Michael

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't mind giving money to the government. I like having my roads paved, and I like that my snail mail gets to where it needs to go.

what I resent is the fact that what I pay per month in social security taxes could pay my monthly food pill, or several of my utilities. I mean, it's not as if I'll be collecting social security when *I* retire.

The roads are paved with gas taxes. Your snail mail is delivered by stamp fees.

Let's face it, you like paying taxes because you have no clue what goes where.

 

[Wuffsunie]

Originally posted by: MustISO
If the govt. didn't piss our tax dollars away, we wouldn't have to pay so much. Our tax dollars should be handled as if the USA was a corporation. Companies know how to handle cashflow, our govt. does not unless it's into their pockets.

That's because it's nearly impossible for a country to go bankrupt, especially an industrialized one. And if a country does, you have the The International Monetary Fund to bail it out. Even then, very little happens to the people who have pissed away the money in the first place. There's no reason or insentive for them to treat cash wisely. After all, what are we going to do? Vote them out? Not if politics in my city are any indication.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: loki8481
I don't mind giving money to the government. I like having my roads paved, and I like that my snail mail gets to where it needs to go.

what I resent is the fact that what I pay per month in social security taxes could pay my monthly food pill, or several of my utilities. I mean, it's not as if I'll be collecting social security when *I* retire.

The roads are paved with gas taxes. Your snail mail is delivered by stamp fees.

Let's face it, you like paying taxes because you have no clue what goes where.

Are all roads paved with gas tax? I thought I remember part of it being from property tax...I could be wrong.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Ah, Dickens...

`Are there no prisons?' asked Scrooge.

`Plenty of prisons,' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

`And the Union workhouses?' demanded Scrooge. `Are they still in operation?'

`They are. Still,' returned the gentleman, `I wish I could say they were not.'

`The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?' said Scrooge.

`Both very busy, sir.'

`Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their
useful course,' said Scrooge. `I'm very glad to hear it.'

`Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,'
returned the gentleman, `a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink,
and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt,
and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?'

`Nothing!' Scrooge replied.

`You wish to be anonymous?'

`I wish to be left alone,' said Scrooge. `Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer.
I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support
the establishments I have mentioned--they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.'

`Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'

`If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, `they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population.
Besides--excuse me--I don't know that.'

`But you might know it,' observed the gentleman.

`It's not my business,' Scrooge returned. `It's enough for a man to understand his own business, and
not to interfere with other people's. Mine occupies me constantly. Good afternoon, gentlemen!'

Nice quote, but taxes != charity

Charity is given freely and willingly, unlike taxes which are forced at government gunpoint.

Just FYI.

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: se7enty7

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: se7enty7
My ex gf's dad was laid off from verizon he sat around all day collecting unemployment. He would look for a job on thursdays only. Nice to know my tax money is going towards something productive.

For a spoiled brat always given a silver spoon I can understand such laziness, but from an adult with a family that's unacceptable, and pathetic.

He's a single father, with one daughter grown up and out of the house; and the other one on her way out. He lucked into some rental propery (purchased from my family for cheap, actually.) and get's about $400 a month from that (mortgage - rent == $600ish) and I'm assuming he had some savings. All in all; he's a lazy bum.


What bothers me MUCH more is when I was growing up there were some kids in my best friends neighborhood who's parents never worked. They always talked about waiting for their welfare checks and whatnot. In specific; there was one father who was always outside playing basketball with his friends. When I was little I always wondered why he didn't have to work.. Now I know.

Why work when you can stay home at eat at my tax dollars?

Welfare should be a degenerate thing. As in; the checks get lower and lower as time goes on. Also; after the first child people should NOT get tax breaks. Also if someone is on welfare any more than two children should lower tax breaks. I've heard over and over again about women on welfare having kids for the tax benefits.

Yeah, its kind of a mess. Some people actually need it, but it seems like a whole lot more of them just are looking for a handout. I've heard trashy people say things like "Its takes about 5 kids to make a good living." Are these really the people we want reproducing? LOL.

Welfare takes .07 cents of each tax dollar. The biggest cut goes to Social Security with .22 cents out of each tax dollar followed by defense and interest on the debt at .16 cents and .15 cents respectively. I don't know what the political agenda of the below link is but that picture seems in line with what I have read elsewhere regarding how the Federal budget breaks down per tax dollar.

Little illustration of where a tax dollar goes.

A little misleading when someone is talking about doing their federal income tax... as SS does NOT come out of federal income taxes, but is taxed seperately in your withholding. Show a breakdown of where your federal INCOME tax goes, not FICA.

And to add to my comments...

It's even more misleading than that. Since FICA is a fixed %, but income taxes are not, that % varies widely. It will be much higher of a % of total taxes for the poor woman with kids getting all of her income taxes back plus a handout for EIC... but FICA is not diminished. And it will be a much lower % of total taxes paid by the single, childless person making over 100,000 a year and paying 30 some odd % of their net income in taxes.

Adding FICA into the mix is a scam to make other entitlement programs look smaller by comparison.

Not to burst anyones bubble, but unemployment is NOT paid by taxes...Every two weeks the take money out of my check for "unemployment insurance"...I Have paid way more in, than I have taken out.

Also, as someone above stated, I believe business also pays into the fund.

 

[Ranger X]

It's painful to see how much of my money is going to federal tax each month. We're supporting bums and those faking injuries. Woohoo

EDIT: BTW, being poor doesn't necessarily have to do with being unemployed. Someone could be employed making minimum wage and still be poor. It's those lazy bums that need to get off the couch and get a job instead of taking gov't handouts at the working community's expense.

 

[Zombie]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Zombie
well deductions were from sale of stock options so it was a 1 time flat tax. I thought bush reduced the taxes :|

He did numbskull, it used to be flat 28% on stock option exercise, now it's 25%. And regardless, if you're effective tax rate is less than 25% you'll get it back.

I am not getting anything back ya geek. Try reading your own Tax time help thread

 

[Modeps]

I'm getting $3800 back from the feds this year, I hope they enjoyed their loan.

 

[Salvador]

Link

They're trying..

Sal

 

[Salvador]

Good ole' Bush is running up the tab with his little war in Iraq. It's hard to believe that we had a surplus a few years ago, isn't it?

Sal

 

[Zombie]

Originally posted by: Michael
If you're paying taxes, then you're making money.

You cashed in stock options at a profit and you're complaining that you have to pay taxes on it?

Michael

yes but I could have made more if it wasn't for the taxes .'

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Salvador
Good ole' Bush is running up the tab with his little war in Iraq. It's hard to believe that we had a surplus a few years ago, isn't it?

Sal

Maybe we should just stop giving money away to third world countries and other humanitarian packages.

 

[Kemosabe1447]

It would be worse if them dang democrats were still in office

 

[CraigRT]

what is classified as poor?

 

[Salvador]

Maybe we should just stop giving money away to third world countries and other humanitarian packages

Why do we always think that we have to fix everything elsewhere in the world?

Sal