Tauren

[Thurgo0dy]

I think they look cool

 

[HardcoreRobot]

imo the racial differences are very minimal. focus on your class instead

 

[Thurgo0dy]

Are druid hard to "master" the druid class, and are they a strong class?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Thurgo0dy
Are druid hard to "master" the druid class, and are they a strong class?

were one of the weakest, but i think they got a buff in the last patch.

 

[Concillian]

Druid are so diverse that they are inherently difficult to 'master'

Given they can tank/hold aggro (bear form), cast for damage, cast for healing, or play a mini-rogue (cat form), but they do none as well as a dedicated class (warrior/bear, mage/damage caster, priest/healer, rogue/cat form) they are indeed difficult to master. They have no specific role, so in a group people will often expect you to fill a specific role as the group makeup demands. Most often a group is lacking a healer, so you will be asked to be primary healer... or they are lacking a warrior, so you will be asked to play primarily in bear form and hold aggro as a warrior would.

A hybrid class like a druid has the advantage of having a little of everything, but that can also be a downside as a particular group may need you to play in a role that you are not completely comfortable with, or even do not wish to play in.

 

[Vortex22]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Thurgo0dy
Are druid hard to "master" the druid class, and are they a strong class?

were one of the weakest, but i think they got a buff in the last patch.

In PvP they were and are one of the strongest. In PvE they are slow but can take on multiple mobs at once. They are great at escaping and staying alive.
HOWEVER, Druids are also the hardest class to play effectively, that's why there is a common belief that they suck in PvP. In a 1v1 duel, druids can totally destroy warriors, rogues, mages, hunters, and usually pallies. Warlocks aren't generally too hard but a good player can be a pain. Only shaman and shadow priests give me any real problems in pvp. I can usually take out the priests, but shaman are always a tough fight.

<-- 56 Alliance Druid on Bleeding Hollow

 

[Thurgo0dy]

Ok, So what would you advise me to be? I want my character to be tauren. What class should I pick?

 

[Vortex22]

Also, the new druid changes made mob soloing a little easier with the cat form buff. It was a minor base weapon DPS increase, but when you use abilities that modify the base damage (like ravage) the difference is significant. The new finisher is also pretty good... I crit a priest for 1450 with it yesterday.

 

[quikah]

Originally posted by: Concillian

Did you look at the context in which I mentioned troll regen? The point was not that troll regen is terribly useful, it was that it must be necessarily of little use alone because there are so many similar effects that can be added together by a single person (hex of weakness + troll regen + troll pot + renew + renew talents + +healing items)

Actually I was replying to Shadenfroh who recommended troll for a warrior because of the regen. In fact you hadn't mentioned troll regen at all in this thread, that was the patch thread I belive. Regardless the troll racial regen is not going to contribute anything really in that chain of yours in later levels, it is basically a free troll pot. +6 hp when the renew is doing 200+ per 3 sec is not really noticeable.

 

[skace]

All the classes a Tauren can be work really well. Read and understand the classes a Tauren can be and pick the one you want to play most. Druids are healers, Warriors are tanks (defensive), Shamans can be almost anything: healer, damage dealer, semi tanking, nuker.

Taurens are a cool race, so just pick your class. I'm a 60 tauren druid.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Thurgo0dy
Ok, So what would you advise me to be? I want my character to be tauren. What class should I pick?

Do you want to be the guy to jump into combat and hacking things to pieces, the guy who adapts himself to fit the situation he is in (be it tank, healer, damage dealer, swimmer), or the guy who can handle himself well and makes everyone else better?

 

[atmguru]

Originally posted by: Thurgo0dy
ok, so for me it's down to shaman and druid. when you're a druid and you shapeshift, do your traits show in your animal form? For example: a touren morphed into a bear. would it have horns and stuff?

No, you look like a normal bear, except you have a swirl tatoo on your shoulder. For some reason the cat form has horns though. I just got to lvl30 a week ago and am loving my travel form.

 

[L1FE]

Whoever said warriors are not known for damage nor can they dominate in pvp has not played a high level warrior. Frankly put, while my overall DPS stays around 210ish over an extended period of time (using total damage divided by total time), my burst dps can easily go above 2k dps.

I have a level 60 warrior with full valor set, 31/20 arms/fury build with an arcanite reaper. I can mortal strike crit between 1500hp-1800hp damage and normal crit for 1k. Tauren get a natural benefit of having more hps, which can benefit both druids and warriors. As a warrior, the extra stun is nice, especially when used in combination with a hamstring/intercept combo. Other than shadow priests who use devouring plague (one dastardly timer might I add), and a few mages who get a lucky pyro blast, I have no problems in PvP. Warriors are a very strong and deep class and with the patch we have only become better.

Oh, and shamans aren't all they're cracked up to be. With mortal strike, a warrior can easily outdamage their healing (not to mention their own damage against your uber plateness).

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: L1FE
Whoever said warriors are not known for damage nor can they dominate in pvp has not played a high level warrior. Frankly put, while my overall DPS stays around 210ish over an extended period of time (using total damage divided by total time), my burst dps can easily go above 2k dps.

If you read carefully I never said warriors couldn't do damage. I said their role in a group is not to do damage, but to HOLD AGGRO, which enables the group as a whole to do more damage. I qualified all statements about damage with grouping, where you typically will not be doing nearly as much damage as you would when soloing or PvP'ing.

As far as PvP, if you're playing against GOOD players, then warriors have some inherent disadvantages, primarily from a mobility standpoint. It doesn't matter how much damage you can do when you can't get close enough. Shamans really only need to frost shock, earthbind, run away and repeat. Warlocks can seduce and fear you so much you never even get CLOSE to them. Priests are easier in that their Fear has a long cooldown, but they are still tough for warriors. Hunters and Druids have significantly better snares than warriors too.

They certainly do not dominate in PvP the way a well played shaman or priest can. Again, I chose the language quite precisely. A warrior will not dominate MOST other classes in PvP. They will do well against certain classes most of the time, and other classes some of the time, and they have their very weak classes. That is not domination, that is average.

However a well played shaman has problems with VERY few classes. And a well played priest has problems with VERY few classes. These are classes that can dominate PvP. Warriors have too many mobility issues to "dominate" in PvP.

 

[L1FE]

Originally posted by: Concillian

Originally posted by: L1FE
Whoever said warriors are not known for damage nor can they dominate in pvp has not played a high level warrior. Frankly put, while my overall DPS stays around 210ish over an extended period of time (using total damage divided by total time), my burst dps can easily go above 2k dps.

If you read carefully I never said warriors couldn't do damage. I said their role in a group is not to do damage, but to HOLD AGGRO, which enables the group as a whole to do more damage. I qualified all statements about damage with grouping, where you typically will not be doing nearly as much damage as you would when soloing or PvP'ing.

As far as PvP, if you're playing against GOOD players, then warriors have some inherent disadvantages, primarily from a mobility standpoint. It doesn't matter how much damage you can do when you can't get close enough. Shamans really only need to frost shock, earthbind, run away and repeat. Warlocks can seduce and fear you so much you never even get CLOSE to them. Priests are easier in that their Fear has a long cooldown, but they are still tough for warriors. Hunters and Druids have significantly better snares than warriors too.

They certainly do not dominate in PvP the way a well played shaman or priest can. Again, I chose the language quite precisely. A warrior will not dominate MOST other classes in PvP. They will do well against certain classes most of the time, and other classes some of the time, and they have their very weak classes. That is not domination, that is average.

However a well played shaman has problems with VERY few classes. And a well played priest has problems with VERY few classes. These are classes that can dominate PvP. Warriors have too many mobility issues to "dominate" in PvP.

A well played warrior can DOMINATE every other class. Kiting is not as big of an issue when you consider the amount of burst dps you can do and your abilities to stop kiting. A shaman can frost shock and earthbind, but a warrior can intercept, hamstring, stomp, and shout.

Because well geared warriors have a lot of hp (5k here unbuffed). Unless a warrior is a retard and doesn't know how to change stances, no class other than mages should be kited for long (intercept while on a long cooldown allows for that in-battle distance closing, then use snare abilities).

I will list the classes I have absolutely 0 problems with: rogues, druids, hunters, warriors, shamans, holy/disc priests, frost mages, a protection paladin

The classes that are somewhat challenging are: mages and priests, and occasionally paladins (not really)

Priests cannot kite a warrior (berserker rage breaks fear), but they have very high dps that plate just cannot mitigate. Their shield is annoying, but for the most part it's a very close fight.

Mages may pose a problem, but without similar end gear game (how many cloth wearers are there...too many) they just do not have the mana to take a 5k hp walking dps out. The only mages that I have problems with now are those with 7k+ manapools.

Warriors before the patch really weren't that bad. People just don't know how to utilize the skills for pvp.

 

[zzzz]

not to brag, but I have killed a shaman 5 levels higher than me on my priest (25---30). He was stupid trying to frost shock kite me though.