Firend owns big big company and they have there own optical lines! He said I could tap in as long as I do the work. He has the cbale. How do I do it? Its under ground about 4 foot. Im think about running it close enough to hook it up to an wireless router and using antennas. Only about hlf mile away
Tapping into optical line
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Umm did I say that it was his optical lines ? YES I DID. ANyhow why not. I will be at 1.5 mbps wont I? Thats the bandwith rate on wireless routers isnt it?
Not for 2000 feet, most I have seen cap out at 1mbps at 1200 feet. Also I have made fiber patch cables before at work, I hope you have all the tools and training. Its not like making a cat 5 cable
1. Wireless routers I have seen only have a range of about 300 feet.
2. If you can make it work, your buddy's network is going to be insecure.
2. If you can make it work, your buddy's network is going to be insecure.
I dont think wireless has that kind of reach.......
and isnt CAT5 limited to about 1/4 mile w/o amplification?
EDIT: Only 320 feet.
and isnt CAT5 limited to about 1/4 mile w/o amplification?
EDIT: Only 320 feet.
he ain't gonna have a big big company very long if he lets someone "tap" into his fiberoptic network who
asks for advice on how to do it in the "off topic" forum of AT.
Yikes!
UglyCasanova
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Well the only easy way I have heard of to "tap" into fiber is with what they call a fiber clip, here's a link to one Text . And then you can get an antenna for your wireless equipment to up the range. The downside is a clip will cost you at least $1,000...
edit: Thanks for correcting me, A clip is useless for ya..
edit: Thanks for correcting me, A clip is useless for ya..
N8Magic
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You'll need a fibre splicing kit. You do realize that they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, right?
Oh, and you'll also need an add/drop multiplexer to add or remove your data from the appropriate stream. Factor in the cost of the enclosure to keep your ADM and redundant power source in (you wouldn't want to take down a section of your friends fibre ring, right?), the land et al, and you're looking at millions.
No free fibre access for you.
Oh, and you'll also need an add/drop multiplexer to add or remove your data from the appropriate stream. Factor in the cost of the enclosure to keep your ADM and redundant power source in (you wouldn't want to take down a section of your friends fibre ring, right?), the land et al, and you're looking at millions.
No free fibre access for you.
N8Magic
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silverpig
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Originally posted by: N8Magic
You'll need a fibre splicing kit. You do realize that they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, right?
Oh, and you'll also need an add/drop multiplexer to add or remove your data from the appropriate stream. Factor in the cost of the enclosure to keep your ADM and redundant power source in (you wouldn't want to take down a section of your friends fibre ring, right?), the land et al, and you're looking at millions.
No free fibre access for you.
Don't you know a "no chance in hell" when you see one?
He was saying no man.
Anubis
No Lifer
i have to dissagree i have a line of about 500 Ft of cat 5 in my house. brother in law gave it to me. so instead of cuttin it to length i just pluged it into the computer and then into teh router and it works fine. between teh comps in my house i can get 8MBs over teh 500 ft of cable with no problims
That site is hilarious. Selling scrunched up peices of paper as art? Anyway, like people have been saying, you have no chance in hell. Hiring the equipment is expensive, let alone buying it. Plus it helps if you know what you're doing with fibre, it isn't easy. So no, you can't tap in.
Well, well....where to start....OK, here goes:
If he's got fiber to his place from a carrier, then it's running (at least) fractional DS3 {DS3 is 45Mbps, in 30 channels of T1 usually}.
If you were to cut that line, you find more than one pair of fiber .... probably like a couple dozen, all going to hundereds of other places ... who would be real mad that they can't get their phone/data through (read: lawsuit city).
If you could correctly identify the right pair he's on, you'd still need a DS3 mux (~US$ 25,000-50,000), the power to run the mux, and the splice case to cover up the breech in the (very expensive, and probably not owned by your friend) armoured, gell-filled, direct burial cable.
Once you get you T1 broken out of the DS3 mux (which the provider would have to assign to you, BTW), you'd still need a router (you can plug it into the power that feeds the DS3 mux, so no problem) to get it to Ethernet, and you'd still need an account with the ISP to log in and receive network services: you can't use his, because then HE wouldn't be able to get on. You'd need to backhaul from your router to his.
When you put in the power for the mux and the router, put in a double-duplex, cause you're gonna need another outlet to run the wireless transceiver, which may make the distance .....after you add a couple hundred dollars in Heliax and antennas (which someone will steal unless you fence it in and guard it). Maybe you can use the fourth outlet to run the video survellience system .....
That's enough, I guess, you get the idea (in addition to all the other encouraging comments above).
I don't even want to talk about the poorly educated in-DUH-vidual that, for no good stated reason, decides he can almost double the recommended specification length of the unshielded twisted pair (a "bad thing"), almost certainly in a tightly-wound spool (a "bad thing"), with probably the cheapest RJ plugs he could buy (a "bad thing") ... and decide that, because he's getting SOME data through, it must be a perfect working setup. Whatever trips your trigger bucko....there's a better way. BTW: The Shift Keys are the big wide keys on either side of the first row of letters.
(I guess I'm just getting cranky in my old age)
Good Luck to you both .....
Scott
If he's got fiber to his place from a carrier, then it's running (at least) fractional DS3 {DS3 is 45Mbps, in 30 channels of T1 usually}.
If you were to cut that line, you find more than one pair of fiber .... probably like a couple dozen, all going to hundereds of other places ... who would be real mad that they can't get their phone/data through (read: lawsuit city).
If you could correctly identify the right pair he's on, you'd still need a DS3 mux (~US$ 25,000-50,000), the power to run the mux, and the splice case to cover up the breech in the (very expensive, and probably not owned by your friend) armoured, gell-filled, direct burial cable.
Once you get you T1 broken out of the DS3 mux (which the provider would have to assign to you, BTW), you'd still need a router (you can plug it into the power that feeds the DS3 mux, so no problem) to get it to Ethernet, and you'd still need an account with the ISP to log in and receive network services: you can't use his, because then HE wouldn't be able to get on. You'd need to backhaul from your router to his.
When you put in the power for the mux and the router, put in a double-duplex, cause you're gonna need another outlet to run the wireless transceiver, which may make the distance .....after you add a couple hundred dollars in Heliax and antennas (which someone will steal unless you fence it in and guard it). Maybe you can use the fourth outlet to run the video survellience system .....
That's enough, I guess, you get the idea (in addition to all the other encouraging comments above).
I don't even want to talk about the poorly educated in-DUH-vidual that, for no good stated reason, decides he can almost double the recommended specification length of the unshielded twisted pair (a "bad thing"), almost certainly in a tightly-wound spool (a "bad thing"), with probably the cheapest RJ plugs he could buy (a "bad thing") ... and decide that, because he's getting SOME data through, it must be a perfect working setup. Whatever trips your trigger bucko....there's a better way. BTW: The Shift Keys are the big wide keys on either side of the first row of letters.
(I guess I'm just getting cranky in my old age)
Good Luck to you both .....
Scott
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