Tape shows Shalit 'safe and well'

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Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: dahunan
they should have treated him the same way the IDF treated people in their last incursion and all the other times they raped neighborhoods of all dignity creating more hatred for them

Glad we can always find someone to support more evil in the world.
 

TheSkinsFan

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Originally posted by: kylebisme
Assuming you are not wowing at the grammatical error I just went back and fixed, am I to take it you are taking issue with my suggestion that there Israel has an overwhelming upper hand in the balance of power here? If so, I suggest you look a bit deeper into the specifics of this conflict, at least if you have any interest in overcoming such confusion.
What does the balance of power have to do with a 1000-to-1 prisoner exchange -- with terrorists, mind you -- being considered fair or reasonable?
 

sandorski

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Israel has negotiated/agreed to large numbers of Palestinians in exchange to 1 or a few Israelis in the past. Not sure what the exact Ratios are, but from Hamas's/or whomever this is, point of view it's probably worth trying for 1 thousand.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: kylebisme
That said, Hamas is willing to settle for 1000 Palestinian held in Israeli prisons in exchange for the release of Shalit, which I consider a reasonably compromise considering the balance of powers in the situation at hand.
wow... just wow. :confused:

don`t forget kylebisme is a 9/11 troother so his outlook on life is already screwed up...

as if your isn't. lol.

How many Israeli civi's die per Palestinian? I bet we are around 1000 to 1 so why not put that as the marker. 1000 for 1 makes sense when you look at the kill ratio.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: kylebisme
That said, Hamas is willing to settle for 1000 Palestinian held in Israeli prisons in exchange for the release of Shalit, which I consider a reasonably compromise considering the balance of powers in the situation at hand.
wow... just wow. :confused:

don`t forget kylebisme is a 9/11 troother so his outlook on life is already screwed up...

as if your isn't. lol.

How many Israeli civi's die per Palestinian? I bet we are around 1000 to 1 so why not put that as the marker. 1000 for 1 makes sense when you look at the kill ratio.

So you are one of the demented who actually believe that everything is totally israel`s fault and that 1 for a 1,00 would be fair???

That`s why i don`t respond to threads about israel there are too many people who do not really know the facts other than thye propoganda they believe about the evil Israeli`s.....


Again there is nothing ;liike a 9/11 wacko who is seeking credibility...hahahaaa
 

EagleKeeper

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
Originally posted by: kylebisme
That said, Hamas is willing to settle for 1000 Palestinian held in Israeli prisons in exchange for the release of Shalit, which I consider a reasonably compromise considering the balance of powers in the situation at hand.
wow... just wow. :confused:

don`t forget kylebisme is a 9/11 troother so his outlook on life is already screwed up...

as if your isn't. lol.

How many Israeli civi's die per Palestinian? I bet we are around 1000 to 1 so why not put that as the marker. 1000 for 1 makes sense when you look at the kill ratio.

Also ask why the Palstinian civilians are dying and for whom?
For leadership that does not value the life of a civilian (or rather 1000 lives)

 

JSt0rm

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of course you two respond lol. I think whoever has the biggest guns gets to win nothing more nothing less. 1 Israeli soldier is worth the lives of 1000 Arabs TO Israel. We have seen this already.

Jediyoda: You respond to EVERY thread about isreal.
 

Freshgeardude

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there is a big difference between the people.

the 1000 that hamas is demanding set free are all terrorists of different proportions, while any of the people israel has killed are mostly (key word most) terrorists or those who refuse to fight against these "freedom fighters" for using them as human shields.

if you want to argue numbers here, the answer is: war. its never fair.
 

Freshgeardude

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
of course you two respond lol. I think whoever has the biggest guns gets to win nothing more nothing less. 1 Israeli soldier is worth the lives of 1000 Arabs TO Israel. We have seen this already.

Jediyoda: You respond to EVERY thread about isreal.

actually, it is a little more complicated then you make it sound.

Jews respect their dead. Israel has in the past given up hundreds of prisoners in exchange for the BODY (dead) of a soldier in captivity.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
actually, it is a little more complicated then you make it sound.

yes. of course.

and I agree with you war is never fair.

But the flip side of that is people shouldn't whine because hamas is taking prisoners. They should be happy they take prisoners. So they keep the dude locked in a box for 3 years? and like we don't do this ourselves lol.
 

Freshgeardude

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
actually, it is a little more complicated then you make it sound.

yes. of course.

and I agree with you war is never fair.

But the flip side of that is people shouldn't whine because hamas is taking prisoners. They should be happy they take prisoners. So they keep the dude locked in a box for 3 years? and like we don't do this ourselves lol.

yet they want "peace"

that doesnt happen when there is a POW.

if they really want peace, then they should start acting like they want it instead of launching rockets into israeli cities, capturing soldiers, etc.


and when I mean acting, i mean: stop making conditions and threats (especially when they are on the weaker end of region), stop attacking, stop coming to peace talks and refusing to be in the same room as the israelis, stop taking prisoners, and accept the state of israel as a real country
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
if they really want peace, then they should start acting like they want it instead of launching rockets into israeli cities, capturing soldiers, etc.

you know damn well if your country was invaded there would be a certain segment of the population that would wage war until those people are gone. Same thing here. They think if they can kill enough isrealis then they will win. Personally I think they get their asses kicked and should give up but that's not reality. Who knows maybe they have something big up their sleeves and if they did it I wouldn't fault them. It's war after all. They also want to "win" - an impossibility for either side at this point.