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daveymark

Lifer
Sep 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: Rubycon
The steel didn't melt - the high temperature makes it softer and it loses its strength. Scary nonetheless.

0roo0roo just got owned.

i know it didn't "melt":p you can search previous 9/11 threads where i posted. i used the term because of the conspiracy

sadguy = pwnt
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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From the Oakland Tribune:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_5780211

"James Mosqueda, 51, of Woodland, was identified as the drive, according to the CHP. Mosqueda had been driving about 10 months, for Sabek Transport out of San Francisco.

Hmm...Mosqueda...Al Queda? Sabek...Middle Eastern? Terrorist Attack?

ROFL! just waiting for one of the Right-wing nuts to try to make that connection..."OMG! It was a terrerist attack! Raise the Terror Alert to Orange!"

I liked this line in the story:
"The company is going to have some responsibility with this crash."
Seems like the company & their insurance should have to bear ALL the costs of this, since it was a company truck that caused it...

 

irishScott

Lifer
Oct 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: Rubycon
The steel didn't melt - the high temperature makes it softer and it loses its strength. Scary nonetheless.

0roo0roo just got owned.

So it gets softer and collapses. Same result.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: Rubycon
The steel didn't melt - the high temperature makes it softer and it loses its strength. Scary nonetheless.

0roo0roo just got owned.

So it gets softer and collapses. Same result.

not really.. the deformation mechanisms are very different ;)
 
Feb 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: Rubycon
The steel didn't melt - the high temperature makes it softer and it loses its strength. Scary nonetheless.

0roo0roo just got owned.

So it gets softer and collapses. Same result.

not really.. the deformation mechanisms are very different ;)

It's creep deformation my friend. Natural log strain rate vs. 1/T =] graph Oh I love my mechanics classes.

BTW I'm royally pissed.

No shortcut onto the Bay Bridge anymore. That was literally the ELITIST WAY of commuting from the East Bay.

If you don't know it yet, I'll share it with you. When you're on I-80 west going through Berkeley/Emeryville, instead of staying in the right 3 lanes to go on the Bay Bridge, stay in the middle 2 and go to I-880. The ramp is like 1/2 mile long and somewhere in the middle you exit on W. Grand Ave. Take a right and go straight. You hit the onramp to the Bay Bridge, and on your journey on Grand Ave, you pass over the 1/2 mile long line of cars that are going bumper and bumper till the toll plaza. This works only if you have Fastrak. If oyu pull this wihtout Fastrak, you're screwed. Once at the onramp, you drive for maybe 300 ft and a Fastrak lane emerges. You cruise ahead and bam, you're in. If not, you wait in a HUGE LINE that moves FAR SLOWER than the main lanes. You may wonder why you would do this, but that half mile before the toll plaza only has 5 lanes. Even if you have Fastrak, you can't get into a Fastrak lane until you're close enough to the toll plaza. Anyways, now that my elitist way has been shut down, I'm screwed. Fvck commuting to The City.

Another thing is when I come BACK from The City to the EAst Bay, I hav eno way of going on 24, which is unarguably the fastest way to get to South Berkeley (where most students live). Now I have to stay on the I-80 East and go through traffic towards University (the newbiest way of going to Cal).

I hate Caltrans. Fix this sh!t already. Seriously.
 

IGBT

Lifer
Jul 16, 2001
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..goes to show ya how fragile steel/concrete really is. just think if that was on the bottom deck of the Bay Bridge. but wait..didn't we already know that from 9-11??
 

SarcasticDwarf

Diamond Member
Jun 8, 2001
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Originally posted by: BoomerD
From the Oakland Tribune:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_5780211

"James Mosqueda, 51, of Woodland, was identified as the drive, according to the CHP. Mosqueda had been driving about 10 months, for Sabek Transport out of San Francisco.

Hmm...Mosqueda...Al Queda? Sabek...Middle Eastern? Terrorist Attack?

ROFL! just waiting for one of the Right-wing nuts to try to make that connection..."OMG! It was a terrerist attack! Raise the Terror Alert to Orange!"

I liked this line in the story:
"The company is going to have some responsibility with this crash."
Seems like the company & their insurance should have to bear ALL the costs of this, since it was a company truck that caused it...

It really depends. The driver is likely at fault for the accident, but is he really at fault for a friking roadway collapsing?
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
33,306
12,875
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Originally posted by: DLeRium
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
Originally posted by: irishScott
Originally posted by: sadguy
Originally posted by: Rubycon
The steel didn't melt - the high temperature makes it softer and it loses its strength. Scary nonetheless.

0roo0roo just got owned.

So it gets softer and collapses. Same result.

not really.. the deformation mechanisms are very different ;)

It's creep deformation my friend. Natural log strain rate vs. 1/T =] graph Oh I love my mechanics classes.

BTW I'm royally pissed.

No shortcut onto the Bay Bridge anymore. That was literally the ELITIST WAY of commuting from the East Bay.

If you don't know it yet, I'll share it with you. When you're on I-80 west going through Berkeley/Emeryville, instead of staying in the right 3 lanes to go on the Bay Bridge, stay in the middle 2 and go to I-880. The ramp is like 1/2 mile long and somewhere in the middle you exit on W. Grand Ave. Take a right and go straight. You hit the onramp to the Bay Bridge, and on your journey on Grand Ave, you pass over the 1/2 mile long line of cars that are going bumper and bumper till the toll plaza. This works only if you have Fastrak. If oyu pull this wihtout Fastrak, you're screwed. Once at the onramp, you drive for maybe 300 ft and a Fastrak lane emerges. You cruise ahead and bam, you're in. If not, you wait in a HUGE LINE that moves FAR SLOWER than the main lanes. You may wonder why you would do this, but that half mile before the toll plaza only has 5 lanes. Even if you have Fastrak, you can't get into a Fastrak lane until you're close enough to the toll plaza. Anyways, now that my elitist way has been shut down, I'm screwed. Fvck commuting to The City.

Another thing is when I come BACK from The City to the EAst Bay, I hav eno way of going on 24, which is unarguably the fastest way to get to South Berkeley (where most students live). Now I have to stay on the I-80 East and go through traffic towards University (the newbiest way of going to Cal).

I hate Caltrans. Fix this sh!t already. Seriously.

as i previously said, it would be creep strain. but failure from creep strain isn't the same as melting :p
 

paulney

Diamond Member
Sep 24, 2003
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In other news BART is miraculously saved from bankruptcy! Ridership increases 150%. Woohoo!!!
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
66,288
14,706
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Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: BoomerD
From the Oakland Tribune:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_5780211

"James Mosqueda, 51, of Woodland, was identified as the drive, according to the CHP. Mosqueda had been driving about 10 months, for Sabek Transport out of San Francisco.

Hmm...Mosqueda...Al Queda? Sabek...Middle Eastern? Terrorist Attack?

ROFL! just waiting for one of the Right-wing nuts to try to make that connection..."OMG! It was a terrerist attack! Raise the Terror Alert to Orange!"

I liked this line in the story:
"The company is going to have some responsibility with this crash."
Seems like the company & their insurance should have to bear ALL the costs of this, since it was a company truck that caused it...

It really depends. The driver is likely at fault for the accident, but is he really at fault for a friking roadway collapsing?

I'm sure the liars...I mean lawyers will fight over this for quite a while, but look at it this way; if you're camping, and your campfire gets away, and causes a huge forest fire, YOU can be held liable for the entire cost of fighting that fire, including any damages to structures (homes, etc. ) that are caused by that fire, PLUS, you can be held criminally liable as well, even if it's an accident.
How is this really any different? Vehicles that haul hazardous materials are (and should be) held to a much higher standard than the average joe who drives down the roadway, because basically, they are driving mobile bombs.
(/me was haz-mat and HAZWOPER certified for about 15 years)
 

Flyback

Golden Member
Sep 20, 2006
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What you fail to understand is that conspiracy nuts don't believe in reason.

Clearly this was a setup so that the common sheep would not buy into the 9/11 conspiracies. Can't you even see that? It is orchestrated to sway the minds of the people on the fence with the conspiracy.

Ah who is that outside?.. oh noes they are coming for me aiweeeeeeeeeeka;dfj;a

:laugh: