Taliban Prisoner Joke (If you think that calling a Jewish person a Jew is racism, then don't bother to read this.)

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WageSlave

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who said anything about belittlement? i laughed because i thought it was clever, not because we're equating some country to sh!t.


ummm no that IS why you laughed. The jokes function was to be funny in equating the country to sh!t.. the 'cleverness of the joke depends on the disdain for an entire nation.


because the subject line was worded to specifically make sure that those who are easily offended know what they're getting into. it's pretty clear that the original poster is not interested in hearing people whine.

How does any of that make it ok to be insulting? Its like saying that it is ok to rape head if you were to say "Dont come into this alley, if you dont like watching someone get raped"

You arent justified in hurting someone simply because you dont like to hear them cry when you hurt them.....


'well I think it is obvios that the guy at the mouth of the alley wasnt interested in hearing anyone whine about rape"

Hmm well I guess the rape is ok then eh?
 

WageSlave

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Bin Laden didn't decide to attack America because of our disrespect for that hole-in-the-ground known as afghanistan.
It's more like this:
He doesn't like Western Culture
He doesn't like Western Influence in the Arab World
He doesn't like the fact Saudi Arabia turned to the U.S. for help in the Gulf War
He wants to topple western friendly arab regimes and instill Taliban-esque governments

How do any of these relate to a silly joke? That's right, they don't.



It seems rather obvious that the statement he made, was simply pointing out that ignorant hate tends to lead to violence. I dont believe he was implying a direct causal relationship between this joke and the attack on america.....
 

gopunk

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who said anything about belittlement? i laughed because i thought it was clever, not because we're equating some country to sh!t.
ummm no that IS why you laughed. The jokes function was to be funny in equating the country to sh!t.. the 'cleverness of the joke depends on the disdain for an entire nation.


you just contradicted yourself. if the joke is funny in it's execution of equating the country to sh!t, then i'm not really laughing because the country is being equated to sh!t. it's really irrelevant what the cleverness of the joke depends on. tough concept, i know.

How does any of that make it ok to be insulting? Its like saying that it is ok to rape head if you were to say "Dont come into this alley, if you dont like watching someone get raped"

rape head...?

You arent justified in hurting someone simply because you dont like to hear them cry when you hurt them.....

are you hurt?

BTW.... you're avoiding the original question. the guy asked why people were insulting you, and i was providing a reason, NOT justifying the original joke. please read the posts.

Hmm well I guess the rape is ok then eh?

if the guy tells you he's gonna rape you, and you willingly let him, is it really rape?
 

piku

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<< how so? >>


Well he sits there and trys to defend Afghanistan as a country, then goes ahead and makes a personal attack against someones mom. Reeeeeaaaaal smooth there...
 

Jzero

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<< ummm no that IS why you laughed. The jokes function was to be funny in equating the country to sh!t.. the 'cleverness of the joke depends on the disdain for an entire nation. >>


You are quite mistaken. The joke would have been equally funny worded as follows:



<< An ATOT poster at the idiot containment camp was very sick. None of the intelligent doctors were able to aid him - though they tried thier darndest. A group of the doctors got together in a meeting and discussed his symptoms. Then an idiot doctor stood up and said he would take care of him. The rest of the doctors gave him their luck.

The idiot doctor met with the sick ATOT poster and told him to get a bucket, fill it with sh|t, and stick his head in it. The ATOT poster thought this was an unusual form of treatment - but he did as prescribed. Sure enough, he felt much better. His cure seemed nothing short of a miracle. The doctors all got together and decided to ask the idiot doctor what was wrong with him.

The idiot doctor replied, "He was homesick."
>>



How about:


<< A quarter horse at the Talisman Stable was very sick. None of the Talisman doctors were able to aid him - though they tried thier darndest. A group of the doctors got together in a meeting and discussed his symptoms. Then a Briarwood Farm doctor stood up and said he would take care of him. The rest of the doctors gave him their luck.

The Briarwood Farm doctor met with the sick quarter horse and told him to get a bucket, fill it with sh|t, and stick his head in it. The quarter horse thought this was an unusual form of treatment - but he did as prescribed. Sure enough, he felt much better. His cure seemed nothing short of a miracle. The doctors all got together and decided to ask the Briarwood Farm doctor what was wrong with him.

The Briarwood Farm doctor replied, "He was homesick."
>>



Bottom line is:
Anyone could have been the butt of this joke and it would still be funny.

 

gopunk

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<< mmm hmmm im going to go now, there is no reasoning with a mob... good night :) >>



i don't think it's the mob that's devoid of reason...
 

Jzero

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<< mmm hmmm im going to go now, there is no reasoning with a mob... good night :) >>



Gotta love a guy who carries the torch but then "flees" when his argument loses steam.
Goodnight!
 

Swag1138

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Ok, the way I look at jokes like this is its in people to laugh at the misfortune of others. Wether they feel bad on the inside or not, people laugh at this stuff. Its called having a sense of humor and its pretty much required to get through life sane.


Have you ever laughed when somone fell down? I cant HELP but laugh when people fall. Its the funniest thing on earth to me. I always go help them up, and ask if they are ok, but Im cracking up the whole time. I cant help it. Do I hate them? According to you, I have to hate them, because I laughed cause they fell down.

I dont hate the Afgani people, but if I laugh at this joke, your saying I have to hate them. Like the other guy said, it could be about any country or nationality. You think the British dont tell jokes like this about Americans? You dont think the French tell jokes like this about everyone? Its part of getting through life to laugh at others misfortunes. It makes it easier to laugh at yourself.
 
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Such jokes do show hostility. Try telling a few sexist jokes in the workplace with just one girl without a sense of humour, and count the lawsuits.

For the "whiteboys" here, try repeating one of chris rocks "great person" jokes in public.

Its called hostility, you don't have to show it for one to see it.
 

Miramonti

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It would be un-American if we didn't make fun of lesser people and their countries. If they don't like it they shouldn't choose to be born there.
 

gopunk

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Such jokes do show hostility. Try telling a few sexist jokes in the workplace with just one girl without a sense of humour, and count the lawsuits.
For the "whiteboys" here, try repeating one of chris rocks "great person" jokes in public.
Its called hostility, you don't have to show it for one to see it.


i'll let your entire post just speak for itself.
rolleye.gif
 

StinkyMeat

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Hey guys! Turns out I was just in a bad mood! Sure the joke is a tad tasteless, but hey, who the hell cares? Like Afghans have computers to read it? Ha! Sorry for the excitement. Good arguements, though, all around. Thanks for the support WageSlave.
Oh, JZero, very funny stuff.