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Taking the Day off School... To Protest? (Poll)

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Woodchuck2000

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Just wondering what other people's thoughts on this are;
A large proportion of the schools in the UK have been letting children take the day off school to go and protest against the war. Should this be allowed?

Also a number of schools have been practising letter writing skills in class by making children write a letter to Tony Blair in protest. Does anyone else here feel that this kind of political act is best left out of our schools?


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Of course it is best left out of schools. Children should not be told what to think in situations like this. Schools are a place to educate; they should not be used for political grand-standing.
 
I say it's pop quiz time. Since you're not there, you get to take the much harder make up quiz.

It is stupid, but you're going to get flamed for saying you don't agree with it.
 
The vast majority, if not the totality, of children in school do not have the ability to think on their own. So it's a terrible idea.
 
Children have no clue, and as such should not be allowed to protest against war. Maybe only highschool students. Anyone younger would be like "Dude, war sucks, let's go get wasted".
 
I don't think there should be any kind of school sanctioned protest. If students want to do that sort of thing on their own, that is fine.

Making kids write protest letters is also very disgusting. The only time that would be acceptable would be in a debate class where it is common to be made to take a position that you don't agree with for the purposes of learning debate.
 
Originally posted by: VBboy
Children have no clue, and as such should not be allowed to protest against war. Maybe only highschool students. Anyone younger would be like "Dude, war sucks, let's go get wasted".
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/me wonders what the hell you did in your free time in grade school? Were you sniffing finger paint too? The kid who ate the glue?

The vast majority of high school students (read: you have a greater chance of a condom failing on you than finding an exception) are still unable to form their own opinions. It's why all those damn "teen" magazines sell so damn much. Everyone loves to follow, no one likes to lead.
 
of course it should be allowed, it teaches children at a young age to stand up for what they believe in, or at least tha they have the ability to stand up for what they believe in.
 
Originally posted by: stspad
of course it should be allowed, it teaches children at a young age to stand up for what they believe in, or at least tha they have the ability to stand up for what they believe in.
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So anytime that I disagree with something, I should be able to take off school?
 
No,

In fact HELL NO.

They have every right to protest, but NO REASON to do it during school hours.
 
No, they should not be allowed. If they want to protest they shouldnt be stoped but they should not get a day off just so they could. They should face teh consequences of missing a day of school if they wish to go out and protest. Its their choice and they have to live with the decision that they make.
 
Originally posted by: stspad
of course it should be allowed, it teaches children at a young age to stand up for what they believe in, or at least tha they have the ability to stand up for what they believe in.
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These children most likely have no opinion of their own. They are being force-fed information most likely from a highly biased standpoint. This is the exact opposite of standing up for what they believe in, it is standing up for what the school administration belives in. They are being used as pawns in a political game.
 
My school (UK) said we were not allowed to protest during school time and if we wanted to make our views known we should try writing a letter to someone.
 
These children most likely have no opinion of their own. They are being force-fed information most likely from a highly biased standpoint. This is the exact opposite of standing up for what they believe in, it is standing up for what the school administration belives in. They are being used as pawns in a political game.
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actually im sure these kids have parents, and if they're parents didnt want their kids to go; they wouldnt. if my kid wanted to go protest, i would take them OUT of school to let them do it.
 
Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: stspad
of course it should be allowed, it teaches children at a young age to stand up for what they believe in, or at least tha they have the ability to stand up for what they believe in.
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So anytime that I disagree with something, I should be able to take off school?
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i ditched high schooln a few times to protest at the capital....
 
Originally posted by: 777php
Originally posted by: stspad
of course it should be allowed, it teaches children at a young age to stand up for what they believe in, or at least tha they have the ability to stand up for what they believe in.
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These children most likely have no opinion of their own. They are being force-fed information most likely from a highly biased standpoint. This is the exact opposite of standing up for what they believe in, it is standing up for what the school administration belives in. They are being used as pawns in a political game.
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You sir, are an idiot, or maybe that's just my biased view.
School children can include those up to 18 (though usually up to 16), and thus, unless they are quite behind in development mentally, they shoul dbe capable of gettin gfacts and making their own decision. I woul dagree that young children may do as their peers say, but those old enough are completely capable of forming an opinion based on the information they are capable of collecting.
I know many people with differing views in my school, based on what they have seen, not what has been forced upon them.
 
That's funny because today in school, 10 kids walked out during lunch, in protest of the war. I think they are all getting suspended.
 
What do you mean "allowed"? If you mean they should be able to make up a prescheduled test/quiz, hell no.

In 1999 I fought my way out of a 1-day suspension and was given 2-hour detention instead for walking out of classes in high school to protest the utter BS we were being put through by work-to-rule teachers without contracts and an unflinching province trying to keep costs down. Third strike in so many years, it was ridiculous and the very antithesis of a hospitable environment for education. They quietly decided to lessen my punishment after I talked to the VP about why I had done what I did.

It wasn't the brightest thing to do in retrospect, but I was lucky to have dealt with a reasonable vice-principal who understood that kids can get just as riled up on domestic and political matters as adults, and feel that they need to be heard too. If I had missed a test or quiz I certainly wouldn't have been accomodated, but a certain amount of leeway stemming from compassion is never a bad thing.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: 777php
Originally posted by: stspad
of course it should be allowed, it teaches children at a young age to stand up for what they believe in, or at least tha they have the ability to stand up for what they believe in.
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These children most likely have no opinion of their own. They are being force-fed information most likely from a highly biased standpoint. This is the exact opposite of standing up for what they believe in, it is standing up for what the school administration belives in. They are being used as pawns in a political game.
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You sir, are an idiot, or maybe that's just my biased view.
School children can include those up to 18 (though usually up to 16), and thus, unless they are quite behind in development mentally, they shoul dbe capable of gettin gfacts and making their own decision. I woul dagree that young children may do as their peers say, but those old enough are completely capable of forming an opinion based on the information they are capable of collecting.
I know many people with differing views in my school, based on what they have seen, not what has been forced upon them.
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Did he not say CHILDREN in his inital statement? Did you not read it completely? My entire post was based upon the fact that I was referring to young children in grammar and elementary school. Perhaps you should re-read the inital post.

Personally I do not consider those in high school to be children but, young adults or teenagers.

From dictionary.com

n. pl. chil·dren
A person between birth and puberty.
An unborn infant; a fetus.
An infant; a baby.

How does anyone get off calling someone an idiot based on a simple statement which in many cases, and definitely in this case, may or may not be misunderstood?

What biased view are you coming from, are you in high school still? Were you offended that I implied that you had no opinion of your own?
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: 777php
Originally posted by: stspad
of course it should be allowed, it teaches children at a young age to stand up for what they believe in, or at least tha they have the ability to stand up for what they believe in.
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These children most likely have no opinion of their own. They are being force-fed information most likely from a highly biased standpoint. This is the exact opposite of standing up for what they believe in, it is standing up for what the school administration belives in. They are being used as pawns in a political game.
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You sir, are an idiot, or maybe that's just my biased view.
School children can include those up to 18 (though usually up to 16), and thus, unless they are quite behind in development mentally, they shoul dbe capable of gettin gfacts and making their own decision. I woul dagree that young children may do as their peers say, but those old enough are completely capable of forming an opinion based on the information they are capable of collecting.
I know many people with differing views in my school, based on what they have seen, not what has been forced upon them.
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As it happens, children as young as 13 were arrested in Cntral London today for disorderly behaviour and damage to property. I agree fully with those people proposing a 'sheep' effect being the cause of most schoolchild protest, rather than a profound moral objection to the war.

 
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