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Thegonagle, you just might want to check out some other companies' resale values, like maybe Subaru? I've barely lost 10% on my car yet. And you oughta see the resales on the '98-'01 Impreza 2.5RS. New for $21k, an MY00 in excellent condition will set you back $13-14k today. 4 model years later and it still has 60% of its original value... that's phenomenal. My old Acura didn't hold value that well.

There really are other car companies in this world besides Honda and Toyota... it's just that (unless we're talking about a 1g DSM) Mitsu isn't one of them. 😛

edit: and neither is Mazda, although they are improving.
 
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Seeing as how the Lancer has only been out since the 2002 model year the first part of your hypothetical is exactly that - hypothetical (and impossible to prove until the 2007 model year comes out). The second part of your hypothetical is just plain ludicrous. Anyone that puts 100,000 miles on a car in 2 years (or less) deserves to have it break down on them, no matter what the car. Cars were meant to be driven, but not that much!
Next time you feel like bashing a car based on its reliability, try to use facts to back up your statement, rather than hypothesis which cannot be proven at the present time.
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Sorry, but when previous Mistu cars have been - to be blunt - "crap" and they're still using the same factories and production values, I see no reason to change. Honda's been putting out quality product for many years now, and I'd rather buy my friend's 92 Civic then my other one's 96 Eclipse.

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- M4H
 
I am of the same opinion.

While I don't think Mitsu's are crap, when it comes to quality they just are not going to be able to compare to Toyota and Honda. Period. You can take a poll on here and ask what other people think and you'll get the same response. You can check out resale values and see what they are worth in a few years. I've driven Mitsubishi before and just like any other cars they should not have problems before 50k miles, that's not an argument, that's to be expected. The sudden dropoff after this is when the problems are going to crop up.

I looked at KBB.com and the prices between Lancers and Civics do not seem far off. A base Lancer ES was $14k and the OZ Rally (I wouldn't be caught dead in this thing) goes for $16k. A Honda Civic DX is $13,500 and an EX is around $17,500 in my area.
I'd go with the Civic.
 
Originally posted by: gluck
See anyway I wan't to buy a used car. I was thinking of spending 6 or 7 k could extend to like 8 or so. Now what I get in that is a 98 or so Civic/Corolla or 02 Lancer. My inclination towards lancer is just because for the same amount of money I get a newer car with better features than a comparitive honda/toyota and also lesser miles.
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There are good reasons why the older Civics and Corollas cost near the same as a much newer Lancer...Most of which have been mentioned.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Thegonagle, you just might want to check out some other companies' resale values, like maybe Subaru? I've barely lost 10% on my car yet. And you oughta see the resales on the '98-'01 Impreza 2.5RS. New for $21k, an MY00 in excellent condition will set you back $13-14k today. 4 model years later and it still has 60% of its original value... that's phenomenal. My old Acura didn't hold value that well.

There really are other car companies in this world besides Honda and Toyota... it's just that (unless we're talking about a 1g DSM) Mitsu isn't one of them. 😛

edit: and neither is Mazda, although they are improving.
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Actually, I forgot about Subaru. Not a bad new-car buy at all. When I was shopping, I ended up crossing them off my list early because of high resale values.

I don't know why you said that about Mazda. I don't quite get it. Mazda cars do quite well for reliability and durability (I've had 2 other Mazdas before), but that's not the reason I chose it. I chose my Mazda because it was fun to drive, its styling is decent, and I could get one with very few miles for a palatable sum. Remember, I didn't even a new car. I wanted an inexpensive car with low miles so I wouldn't need to worry about major repairs for awhile. The Mazda fit the bill. I don't believe in spending money where I won't perceive any value, and I know I wouldn't perceive any extra value spending more for a new (or used) Honda at this stage in my life.
 
Originally posted by: Thegonagle
Originally posted by: Vic
Thegonagle, you just might want to check out some other companies' resale values, like maybe Subaru? I've barely lost 10% on my car yet. And you oughta see the resales on the '98-'01 Impreza 2.5RS. New for $21k, an MY00 in excellent condition will set you back $13-14k today. 4 model years later and it still has 60% of its original value... that's phenomenal. My old Acura didn't hold value that well.

There really are other car companies in this world besides Honda and Toyota... it's just that (unless we're talking about a 1g DSM) Mitsu isn't one of them. 😛

edit: and neither is Mazda, although they are improving.
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Actually, I forgot about Subaru. Not a bad new-car buy at all. When I was shopping, I ended up crossing them off my list early because of high resale values.

I don't know why you said that about Mazda. I don't quite get it. Mazda cars do quite well for reliability and durability (I've had 2 other Mazdas before), but that's not the reason I chose it. I chose my Mazda because it was fun to drive, its styling is decent, and I could get one with very few miles for a palatable sum. Remember, I didn't even a new car. I wanted an inexpensive car with low miles so I wouldn't need to worry about major repairs for awhile. The Mazda fit the bill. I don't believe in spending money where I won't perceive any value, and I know I wouldn't perceive any extra value spending more for a new (or used) Honda at this stage in my life.
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I'm a fan of Mazda as well. Whenever I take my Miata to the dealer for an oil change my mechanic always tells me that they don't get these cars in for service. I love my car and for fun to drive factor it is incredible.
 
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Originally posted by: gluck Lancer sounds gr8 to me. Cheaper & Faster !! 😛
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Amen. Several friends of mine own Lancers and love their cars. Not a one of them has had any problems with their cars either. Forget what all these ricers tell you "honda honda honda", and get the Lancer. More features, better ride, faster, & costs less.
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Lancer has been good to me...
btw... start a poll !
 
I got a 2002 Lancer and I am pretty happy with it. I tried a 2001 Toyota Corolla and I feel sorry for the people who have to sit in the back seat. It is so small that you will get a leg cramp if you have to sit more than an hr. My Lancer was manufactured in Japan. Most of the Civic's and Corolla's(please correct me if I am wrong), are made by lazy North American's who don't give a damn about their product but their paycheck. I had two Mitsubishi products that lasted almost 15 years and both had almost 170k miles and they gave me very little trouble. Give me a made in Japan product almost anytime over an American made product...
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Seeing as how the Lancer has only been out since the 2002 model year the first part of your hypothetical is exactly that - hypothetical (and impossible to prove until the 2007 model year comes out). The second part of your hypothetical is just plain ludicrous. Anyone that puts 100,000 miles on a car in 2 years (or less) deserves to have it break down on them, no matter what the car. Cars were meant to be driven, but not that much!
Next time you feel like bashing a car based on its reliability, try to use facts to back up your statement, rather than hypothesis which cannot be proven at the present time.
Click to expand...

Sorry, but when previous Mistu cars have been - to be blunt - "crap" and they're still using the same factories and production values, I see no reason to change. Honda's been putting out quality product for many years now, and I'd rather buy my friend's 92 Civic then my other one's 96 Eclipse.

Edit - Removed the Quote XL 😛

- M4H
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I'm going to have to side with M4H on the Mitsu vs. Honda comparisons. My friend has an Eclipse -- not sure of the year but it's the previous model (my guess, '96 or '97) -- and his car has given him a LOT of problems. He's a heavy commuter, putting on more than 100 miles a day, and his car is trash right now. He had to throw in a lot of money on repair costs whereas I know other heavy commuters with Hondas rarely having to fix their cars. If I had a choice, I would go with the Honda based on its durability and its resale value.
 
Originally posted by: Ranger X
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Seeing as how the Lancer has only been out since the 2002 model year the first part of your hypothetical is exactly that - hypothetical (and impossible to prove until the 2007 model year comes out). The second part of your hypothetical is just plain ludicrous. Anyone that puts 100,000 miles on a car in 2 years (or less) deserves to have it break down on them, no matter what the car. Cars were meant to be driven, but not that much!
Next time you feel like bashing a car based on its reliability, try to use facts to back up your statement, rather than hypothesis which cannot be proven at the present time.
Click to expand...

Sorry, but when previous Mistu cars have been - to be blunt - "crap" and they're still using the same factories and production values, I see no reason to change. Honda's been putting out quality product for many years now, and I'd rather buy my friend's 92 Civic then my other one's 96 Eclipse.

Edit - Removed the Quote XL 😛

- M4H
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I'm going to have to side with M4H on the Mitsu vs. Honda comparisons. My friend has an Eclipse -- not sure of the year but it's the previous model (my guess, '96 or '97) -- and his car has given him a LOT of problems. He's a heavy commuter, putting on more than 100 miles a day, and his car is trash right now. He had to throw in a lot of money on repair costs whereas I know other heavy commuters with Hondas rarely having to fix their cars. If I had a choice, I would go with the Honda based on its durability and its resale value.
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I know others with Eclipses and Mitsus too... the cars are crap... I really do hate them.... very expensive to own, and not practical IMO because of that reason.
 
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