TaiSol's new CGK742092 Not impressed

Rudee

Lifer
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TaiSol's new CGK742092 heatsink/fan just arrived today. Previously, I was using the TaiSol 733092 with excellent results on a 1Ghz Thunderbird.

With the cheaper 733092 heatsink/fan my idle temps at an overclocked speed of 1.1Ghz were high 20's Celcius with peak load temps in the high 30's. Rarely did I record a temperature in the 40's. But I was curious about the new forged heatsink/fan so I ordered one to play with. (I'm not rich, just curious) :)

Upon inspection I immediately noticed the bottom surface of the 742092 heatsink was very rough compared to the 733092. A serious lapping job was in order, but first I wanted to see how it compared out of the box.

I removed the old TaiSol heatsink/fan, popped off the CPU for cleaning, installed the new 742092 complete with TIM and booted up the machine.

I performed the identical burn in procedure with the new cooler as I did with the previous one. Using Via's hardware monitor I loaded up a session of Prime95 and CPU Heat, unplugged all case fans including the CPU fan, and proceded to 'bake' the TIM pad on the heatsink for maximum phase change. Upon reaching 55C, all fans were quickly reconnected and the computer was shut off. Remember, this process previously produced excellent results with the older TaiSol cooler, as my idle and load temps were very low as a result.

Unfortunately, after booting with my new 742092 and checking Via for temps after the burn in, I was puzzled to see that temps were actually much higher than the cheaper TaiSol cooler. I was idling at 30C right off the bat. Doh! not good. I then loaded up a few programs, prime95, CPU heat, Seti, and 3DMark 2000 looping demo's. I waited a while and monitored the temps. I was in horror to see temps climb into the low 50's. Yikes! This has never happened before. Heck, previously temps in the 40's were rare - what gives?

Off came the heatsink/fan, both heatsink and CPU were cleaned of all traces of thermal pad, a new thermal pad was installed (glad i purchased extra) and the process repeated itself. The results of the second round were almost identical. :( Off came the 742092 and back went the trusty old $15 TaiSol 733092. Temps were now stable and things were running cool like they before. idle temps in the 20's, peak load temps in the high 30's.

Before anyone says "heh, ditch the thermal pad and grab some Artic Silver!" Remember, the thermal pad (TIM) was producing amazing results for me with the older TaiSol. The thing is, I was expecting the newer expensive TaiSol 742092 forged cooler to produce at least the same or preferrably better. I was disappointed to find out that results were much worse than the cheaper cooler. I'm almost convinced the problem lies in the uneven surface of the 742092. It need to be lapped and that's what I am going to do next.

I'll post my results after I've properly lapped the new cooler. But for now, I just want to inform people that this cooler may require some lapping out of the box for maximum effeciency.

I'll keep you posted.
 

ginky4

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I was just about to buy the 742 for a 1.2ghtz Tbird on an ABIT KT7 Raid Motherboard. Now I am not sure what to do after reading your post. It looks like the cek734092 is another option for a 1.2ghtz T Bird. What do you think? What should I do? Bill
 

LohCash

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BTW, What is the best way to lap the Taisol (what grade sandpaper) and what techniques do i use to make sure that the lapping is done evenly and flat.
 

clumsum

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Rudee,
Could you please furnish some detail:

1) What cpu and mb did you install the Taisol CGK 742092 on?

2) What was your opinion of the retention clip?
Thanks,..................
 

Rudee

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*** UPDATE *** After bending the retention clip slightly to ensure a tighter fit, as well as quick smoothing of the heatsink with 2 grades of industrial Scotch Brite?, I'm now running peak temps of 43C. This is at full load (Prime95, seti, 3DMark 2000). Much better now.

I'm going to do some futher experiments using Artic Silver when it arrives shorly.

Re: 3 pronged retention clip. It's a 3 pronged retention clip; what more can I say. It fits very nicely and like the normal clip, it requires a screwdriver. I bent it slightly and I think that helped as well. Fits very nicely on a Abit KT7 (non RAID). CPU is a Athlon Thunderbird 1Ghz at 1.1. I can reach 1.15 stable at 1.8volts but I prefer a more conservative setting at 1.1.
 

Sundog

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Rudy,
What exactly is lapping and how do you do it.

I am guessing here that the term lapping in used to refer to smoothing the HS contact surface.

If I were to have access to a local machine shop, would it be more desirable to have it ground perfectly flat versus a hand sandpaper job?
(I used to work for a local 1 man shop 1/2 mile away)

Thanks,
Mike
 

ginky4

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Where did you buy your Taisol from? Is there a phone number I can call to order it? I don't like to order online. How long did it take to come and how much did it cost? Let me know.