Taisol thermal pad: remove it and use thermal grease?

[Maverick2002]

i should be getting my new HUGE taisol cgk742092 anyday now, and i was wondering if its worth it to scratch off the thermal pad and use thermal grease instead (the only thermal grease i have is the kind that i got with my blue orb)? will it make a BIG difference in performace? also, wouldnt you have to be more careful installing the heatsink if you used grease, because the pad provides cushioning? thx

 

[Mem]

I would just keep the Taisol thermal stuff on,it`s only worth taking off if you use Artic silver & want to overclock real high,the Taisol heatsink/fan does a pretty good job on it`s own.

 

[Maverick2002]

well i do want to overclock (duron 600 to 900+), but do i need thermal grease for that? i mean, im not gonna spend $15 on arctic silver, but is it worth it to use regular grease VS the pad? thx

 

[Mem]

Well I use the lower model Taisol(733) & it does a good job on my 900mhz T-bird so your one should have no problem with your overclocked Duron using the standard Taisol thermal stuff, afterall it can handle a 1.2Ghz Thunderbird.

 

[jinsonxu]

No, avoid regular grease if you can help it. They have a tendency to dry when used on the high heat output socketA CPUs.

Those heatfused thermal pads that come with the heatsink actually do a pretty good job.

 

[Maverick2002]

alright. thx guys. i was skeptical about scraping off the pad anyway, so i guess ill use it now.....i also hear that chemtronics is pretty good, so the pad should be ok

 

[DaddyG]

Taisol has been using Chomerics T-725 Phase Change Thermal Compound. It is one of the brands that AMD recommended when I sent them E-Mail. To get the best results, you may want to 'cook' the pad to the 'change' temperature. 58c is the change temp, simply leave the fan disconnected while watching your temps, a couple of minutes should do the job. As posted previously, Arctic Silver is one of the few compounds available that handles the heat and clip pressure of socket A. I also would recommend that you connect the L1 bridges now, Defogger Repair fluid will get it done once. The down side to PCTC is that after it has changed, you can't remove the heatsink and re-attach. You need a new pad which Taisol can provide.

 

[Bluga]

What is the correct way to remove the pad fir Taisol fans?

 

[AMB]

The pad has worked with with my Tai Sol HSF

 

[Maverick2002]

so the MAIN and FINAL quesition iiiissss.........will the pad work better than thermal compound (except arctic silver that is) ? thx

 

[John]

yes

 

[Maverick2002]

thanks

 

[Howard]

bluga

Scrape off most of the pad with a razor blade, and get the stuff left behind with a clean cloth and rubbing alcohol. That should do the trick.

One more thing, when you apply thermal grease/goop/compound, don't use your finger. The oils affect thermal conductivity. Use a clean razor blade or a clean credit card to wipe it on. Make sure all the rough spots are filled, and that the surface of the thermal grease is flat on both the heatsink and the core.

 

[Quickfingerz]

the best way to go about it in my opinion is place the cooler without any greas onto the CPU. Run the CPU for a few minutes without the fan running. This will melt the thermal pad and move the heatsink closer to the CPUand will produce a connection between the CPU and the heatsink that has no air pockets and no contamination. Silver heatsink grease is still cheap stuff as far as "good" heat transfer components is concerned. This is mostly due to the fact that the heatsink grease dries and produces air pockets.

 

[Maverick2002]

interesting....ill go ahead and do that "melting" thing then

 

[Stylewar]

Will running the CPU without the fan damage the chip in any way? I had heard that the T-Bird I have (1 gig) could fry within 7 seconds without any protection. Or is the HS good enough protection for the short amount of time it will take to get to 58 degrees and fuse the pad to the core? Im very leery about trying this out. Gonna attempt it on Friday night :Q

 

[alcatrazz]

scraping the pad off with a razor often scratches the heatsink bottom (which isn't that great anyways, but you still might want to avoid it). Scrape what you can off with your nail, you don't have to be too picky. Then spray some WD-40 on it, let it sit a couple of minutes, and the rest with some right off with a tissue. Then just clean it off well with some rubbing alcohol.

 

[Quickfingerz]

The CPU will last a pretty long while with just a heatsink. The core is very small when connected to a heatsink that is at least 500 times it size, it increases temperatures much slowly. the "melting" that i was talking about will take quite a while. When i've done it, i've usually ran my CPU until jsut about to the point where I couldn't touch the heatsink for more than a few seconds.

 

[DaddyG]

As I posted earlier, 58c is the change temp for Chomerics T-725. If you watch your temps, a reading of about 52c will probably be OK as the in socket thermister is at least 6c lower than the actual die. Big BIRDS usually don't have a problem melting the pad with the fan connected, but Durons may need the fan off for 3-4 mins.

 

[Quickfingerz]

default voltage will not melt the thermal pad. for the thermal pad to melt with the fan on, you will need to set voltage to 1.85 or turn the fan off.