System running hot?

[supb]

My system is running at 51C Idle, is that too hot? My CPU is at 35 with a Tuniq turned up a little bit.

I have a 120mm in the back and an 80 in the front with vents on the side. I'm not sure if they are blowing out or sucking in air either.

Edit: Also nTune just said GPU1 is running at 61C

Also I plan on overclocking asap so...

 

[zero2dash]

Sounds like your case is warm but everything else is ok.

I don't see the harm in overclocking; your cpu has ample cooling with the Tuniq to do so. It will add some more heat to the case itself though which could cause problems with other components.

You may want to add more fans or upgrade to better fans.

What case is it and how are the fans mounted? Is the front intake and the rear exhaust?

 

[supb]

My case is this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/...p?Item=N82E16811119068

I don't know which is intake and which is exhaust, I opened the case to make sure they are both spinning and they are.

 

[zero2dash]

Kinda a pain to figure out, but you can judge whether its intake or outtake by the way the blades are, or (in most cases) which side of the fan has a label on it. Most fans (or at least all the ones I've ever seen) put their label on the backside of the fan...the exhaust side. So if you look in the case towards the front, and you see the fan label, it should be intake. And on the back one, if you look in the case and to the back, you shouldn't see the label...or alternately if you look at the rear of the case from the outside and you can see the label, then yes, the rear is exhausting the hot air.

The true way is to check what direction the fans spin and then look at the angle of the blades, but it's harder to explain that one. Just look for the labels...

Since 99% of cases are front-intake and rear-exhaust and most of the manufacturers have been around for awhile, I'm sure the system was shipped with the fans facing the correct way, but it never hurts to look.

You should be able to remove the side duct and mount an additional 80mm fan if you want to. You could alternately probably put one at the bottom (maybe with screws, but you might be better off using cable ties.

 

[supb]

I took the side duct off because it wouldnt fit with my tuniq in there.

 

[LOUISSSSS]

the front 80mm fan is intake, but its weak. rear 120mm fan is exhaust and it works well. your CPU at 35c is fine, your GPU @ 61c is fine. your mb chipset might be blocked by something, make sure the heatsinks/fans on your motherboard are getting good air

 

[supb]

here's a screenshot of the sensor in everest: http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8378/tempshg6.png

 

[LOUISSSSS]

yea ur mb northbridge chipset is kind of hot, if you've already tried ur best in giving it cool air, consider getting an aftermarket NB cooler for it

 

[supb]

Here are some pics of my comp, maybe these can help:
http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/4267/gggg001ko5.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/im...2452/gggg002oc4bv1.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/1183/gggg003ph9.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/6599/gggg005vj5.jpg
http://img455.imageshack.us/im...5255/gggg007ep4ys5.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/2396/gggg008vb0.jpg
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First pic but larger resolution: http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/9803/gggg001af9.jpg

Sorry for so many pics, I tried to show every space that could be a problem. The Tuniq is upside down, could that be a problem? Maybe that means it's blowing the wrong way..

If you need any more pictures just ask.

 

[zero2dash]

Re: the Tuniq
Yeah, it could be blowing air the wrong way...check that.

Heat could also be rising off your graphics card upwards and that's why the NB is so warm. What kind of card is that?

Couple other suggestions (easier to fix and I'd try these first)

1) Put your HD in the middle most slot where the fan is (as opposed to the top slot). This way, cool air blows over top and bottom of the HD which will not only cool the HD more, but also give more clearance for air to move into the center and rear of the case. (With the HD at the top now, only air comes in and makes it past the HD at the bottom, below where the NB is.)

2) Clean up your cables especially the IDE and/or consider getting rounded cables. Cheapest would be to just do some cablegami...a few folds here and there and the regular IDE cable is out of the way of everything (and flush with the right wall of the case, no longer restricting airflow).

Otherwise everything else looks ok.
Again, I'd move the HD down one spot and work on moving the cables around to allow that front 80mm fan to push air into the middle of the case, and see where the temps go then. If they're still high, then I'd re-orient the Tuniq. The way it is, it's either blowing hot air up to the roof or down to the floor, and you want it up towards the roof.

 

[supb]

ok i'll check which way the tuniqs blowing, move the hard drive and try to clean up the cables. I don't think the IDE is long enough to really move it much because the GFX card (which is an 8800GTS) is in the way.

 

[supb]

The tuniq is blowing down which will be extremely hard to switch around because I'll have to take out some parts to make room for installing it again, i'm about to move the hard drive and I don't know how much of the cables I can move around

 

[LOUISSSSS]

well u can def use some cable management here. i can't even SEE your NB. u def need to clear that out and allow some air to pass over it

 

[supb]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7591/tempsgx9.png - New temps after I flipped the tuniq the right way, moved the HDD to the middle and did what I could with the cables, hows it look? Is it ready for overclocking?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I COULD take an opportunity to make some . . . . snide remark . . . . about the P35 motherboard, since everyone's been making a hoopla about it. It's supposed to run cooler. But I won't. If you ignore the insinuation here . . .

The motherboard or system temperature, in my opinion, is just too warm. It's not a problem now, but you'll find everyone here focused on CPU temperatures for over-clocking, when in fact the chipset and other motherboard components are significantly important to that process. I may have shown in some post a week or two ago that cooling down the other mobo components may enable over-clocks at the same speed with lower CPU voltages, although that might be open to debate. Even so __ I convinced myself.

I've modded a CoolerMaster Centurion, which I gave to my bro' for Xmas. I thought for sure there was a 120mm fan for front intake -- someone here said it's an 80mm fan -- wait a minute . . . . [to Newegg] . . . Geez. 80mm fan. How 'bout dat. My bro's Centurion incarnation had a 120mm front intake. (Even so -- too weak, and I replaced it . . )

Your C2D temps are about right for idle, but the mobo, in my opinion, could be about 20C lower. It could be just a couple degrees above the C2D's temperature. Try to get some air moving over the motherboard components so that it gets exhausted "post haste." Higher mobo temperatures are a common profile for midtower cases, but it could be better. And making it better will help over-clocking -- when you get around to it.

 

[supb]

I really can't see how to make any more room, I've tried to best I can but I want to know if theres another route I can take to cool it off a little?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Go here:

Cheap As Free Cooling Mod -- OverClockers.com, 2004

Then, go here:

The Duck-t-ster's Mobo Duct Mod for the "Chrome Lightning"

and see if that gives you something to work with. I built the Chrome Lightning because "Americans need a lot of space in which to work," but I also wanted room for eleven hard disks -- currently a four-drive RAID5 array on a sliding tray (it rhymes.) But I've thought about how this approach might be useful in mid-tower cases. It's just as feasible -- maybe more so -- but requires more tedium with a metric ruler -- maybe even more ingenuity.

But the materials are cheap!! And you can make it look pretty good, if you don't mind spending money on Lexan at Home-Depot . . .

 

[supb]

Thanks, bonzai, I will definitely take a look at those articles.