System Crashes in Battlefield 2 and America's Army

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CrispyFried

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Originally posted by: Maximus7770
well i turned off punkbuster, restarted BF2 and joined a BF2 non-punkbuster server. It didnt crash but ofcourse it might have later on. Somebody with my problem try doing this and see if it crashes. Remember to restart BF2 after you turn of PB and then join a PB server.


If youre having lockups with punkbuster games, check this link out, its from an Even Balance (makers of punkbuster) staff member.
 

daines1

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Guys and gals,

I hope that you problems have been fixed. It was so hard to find any good and useful information on how to fix these problems. Glad I found this thread. Hope I added to its usefulness.

I'm currently playing the game now. I had to tone down the settings a little, but it's still very playable and fun. I thought my system could run the game FULL OUT, but that isn't the case. When it doesn't lock up (not usually the case), the game catches from time to time. Really bad when you fight an enemy for the first time and it has to wait to load the textures... ugh

But it is fun. I play as daines1 so look for me sometime. The All Seeing Eye is a very cool program that let's you search for player names and such.

Well, if you have any new news, let us know. Good luck to you all.

Daines1
 

Maximus7770

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Jul 27, 2005
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what the hell are you talking about. this just pisses me off so much i just deleted it and now im waiting for EA to patch it or something.
 

daines1

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Maximus7770,

Did you check out the thread I linked here earlier. It seemed to help a LOT of people there.

Yeah, I know pissed off. I wanted to kick the hell out of my system for the way it was acting. I have a 550W PSU that I need to replace my 350W to see if it still locks up, but I'm afraid to mess with anything now I have the game working. EA is patching it soon I hear so maybe it will be a godsend and not another piece of crap. Yeah, I know how you feel man.

Do you have a NVidia or ATI card? I'll go back and see if you mentioned that.

Good luck. PM me if you need any more ideas for the fix.

daines1
 

anandtechrocks

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What worked for me was lowering my OC. I don't understand why, I was Prime 95 and Super PI stable but once I lowered it like 100 Mhz I no longer crashed, BSOD, froze, etc... Might be worth a try.
 

Maximus7770

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Jul 27, 2005
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umm in your link it just comes up with a forums site. And in my signature it says i have an ATI card..
 

daines1

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Jul 26, 2005
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Dang... My bad.

Here are a few:

http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=13392&tid=1695610
http://www.forumplanet.com/planetbattlefield/topic.asp?fid=13392&tid=1681874

These should be really helpful. Good luck all. Like I said... I know what pissed is over this game.

On another note, I found out my PSU's +12v was only 16(w?). That is clearly not high enough. I got a Antec 550 PSU and the +12v is now 26(w?). I'm putting it in today sometime and let you know if I can turn things back up.

Good luck all,

daines1
 

ThomasKMC

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My buddy and I bought the same PC components to build a new PC: same BFG mobo, same graphics card, same memory, same PSU. We both are playing Battlefield 2 with all video settings set for maximum quality, including 4x anti-aliasing. Where his system runs without a problem, mine freezes up after playing for a few minutes. It runs ok, however, if I reduce the graphics settings from high to medium. Here are our specs:

BFG nForce4 Ultra mobo
AMD 64 3700+ (San Diego)
2 GB Corsair RAM
Leadtek 7800GTX
Seasonic 600W PSU

The only difference between the two systems is that he added an Audigy 2 audio card whereas I disabled the onboard sound since I'm using a USB headset for communication. It's just odd that two nearly identical systems can't run the same graphics settings. Actually, it pisses me off that I can't turn all settings to high with such a high-powered system!
 

anandtechrocks

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ThomasKMC are you overclocked at all? If so that could be what is causing the instability. As i'm sure you already know, every chip OCs differently. Maybe he just got a better 3700+?
 

daines1

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Jul 26, 2005
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Max,

I did some more tests with it last night to verify the problem. I have been playing it well for a while and wanted to see what would happen if I changed a few settings. Let me give you the settings I can use to get it to work.

Graphics

Turned off Dynamic Lighting
Turned off Dynamic Shadows
The rest I have set to HIGH. I have even turned on AAx2 and it runs.

Sound

Set to Software
Set to Low
EAX is unchecked

Game Setup

Punkbuster Enabled
VOIP Enabled
I've pretty much only played on Ranked Servers

Motherboard Settings (Not sure this makes a difference. Didn't have time to mess with these settings)

AGP 8x
AMD HT Techknowledgy from 1000 to 800

Think that's about it Max. That is what I have gotten to work. Yesterday I put in a killer 550W PSU thinking that would solve my problems if I turned on everything. (including bumping up sound settings). Within 3 minutes of gameplay, I had locked up again with that high pitched squeal that I now hear in my nightmares.

Here's what caused the system to lockup:

Turned Sound Settings to Hardware/Medium/EAX on. That's all. Once I messed with those settings, the computer acted like an epileptic on speed. I was so scared that reversing the settings would not fix the problem, but when I turned the sound settings back down, everything started acting normal again. Hell, I even was able to get killed 203 more times! Take that Global Score!

In all seriousness Max, there seems to be MANY ways to fix the problems you are having. This is what worked for me. I've heard a number of things (from posts above) that worked for different people. Give my settings a go and see what you come up with.

Good luck bud,

daines1
 

xanderd

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Aug 5, 2005
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I get EXACTLY the ame problem!!

it is really so frustrating...I cant even play it for 5 minutes any more!

either the screen goes black but i can still hear sound and the gun shoots when i click

OR

the monitor loses signal and system hangs - requires hard reboot

OR

graphics strat to jitter, go weird with polygons everywhere and i cant really see whats going on but can play the game, or eventually the screen is covered in green lines and garbage and i must hard reboot.

I have a Hercules 3d prophet Ati Radeon 9800 pro 128MB card with aftermarket arctic cooler in AGP 8x slot
AMD 2400+ CPU running at 1.76Ghz with aftermarket copper heatsink and fan, runs at 50 degrees
built in sound
1GB PC3200 RAM
Win XP pro SP2

only ever crashes in BF2, and does it literally every single time I play.

I have no idea whats wrong - my graphics and sound are set to low, i have the latest Omega drivers, device manager shows no conflicts, event viewer shows no errors.

I will try turning off fast writes and turning off EAX in sound, and let you know if that helps.

the only other thing i can think of is graphics card overheating! But i have a case fan, and an arctic cooler on the card, I took out the card, took off the cooler, aplied more thermal conductive paste, and reseated the cooler asnd card - still crashes!

anyone know how to check the cards temperature as i havent found a way?

please let me know if you find a solution and i will do the same.

cheers

alex
 

daines1

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Jul 26, 2005
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To find the card's temp, download ATI Tool here. http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/

You can do stress tests and overclocking if you want too, but I've found that my Sapphire X800 XT card does NOT like using that program to test it. Often will reboot the whole system.

Let me know how resetting your sound settings do for you. Now that I'm able to play, I feel like it is my place to help where I can.

daines1

P.S. Any of the suggestions that I've found help? I know it was hard for me to tear myself away from the game once I got it up and running to come post again, but that's what work is for right? Heh
 

xanderd

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Aug 5, 2005
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More Info

AFter trawling the web today, I went home and tried out ALL of the recommendations from this post and the link to the battlefield forum- STILL CRASHING!

It crashes offline in singleplayer as well as online, I have changed the AGP aperture size to 128MB, made sure fastwrites were turned off in the BIOS, made sure EAX and VOIP were turned off in the game (it was already on software and Low). I have a 350w power supply which should be enough. The game only crashes at intensive points i.e. when i'm about to crash a plane, or when loads of players run in shooting.

The only thing I can think of is that the graphics card is overheating - but it has an arctic cooler and a case fan! I havent downloaded the ati tools to test it eyt though.

im really at a loose end with this now :(

Please please if you have this problem and know how to solve it post!
 

Spongerbob

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Aug 5, 2005
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xanderd, did you try reducing from AGP 8X to AGP 4X? This works on my 9800 Pro (128mb 256-bit) I bought ($124 @ monarch) a month ago. Reading from other boards that 4X does not have any affect on the card performance, I figure I should be happy getting it fixed and not try anything else that could give me a bigger headache later on.

I agree with others that dbuttcheek69 doesn't know what he's talking about. I play BF2 on high setting (yes, even on AGP 4X) without any lagging or problem. I'm happy with the card so I hope this will fix your problem too. ;o)
 

ThomasKMC

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No OC'ing here. I'll try uninstalling the nForce IDE driver which can cause a problem according to a thread on forumplanet.com and maybe use the software setting for audio instead of hardware. We'll see....
 

HaelWho

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I originally had this crashing problem and turning off sound acceleration fixed it for me. Might be worth a shot to try that.
 

xanderd

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Aug 5, 2005
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The problem seems to be solved!!!

The solution was lowering the AGP salot in the BIOS from 8x to 4x!! This was the ONLY thing that helped.

I have only tested it for 10 minutes so far, but No crashes! Quality is on medium and it looks good - it used to crash after about 2 minutes on low!

It seems a bit unbeleivable that reducing to 4x would have no effect on graphics quality, and it seems a shame o buy an expensive 8x motherboard and 8x graphics card and be forced to run at just 4x: (

thanks for the help and i hope this solves your problems!
 

xanderd

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Aug 5, 2005
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Update: I discovered the solution wasnt quite that simple.

To prevent it crashing I also had to underclock my RAM in the BIOS from 200Mhz to 166Mhz, AS WELL AS reduce AGP from 8x to 4x.

If I had AGP on 4x but RAM on 200Mhz it will crash.

If I have AGP on 8x and RAM on 166Mhz it will crash

It is only stable with AGP at 4x AND RAM running at 166Mhz. I ran it for 20 minutes at medium quality with no crashes or glitches at all.

Just a shame that i have to underclock my system to do that! (my Ram is PC3200 and can run at 400Mhz, but in my BIOS I only have the option of 166 or 200, and it only runs well on 166! - if anyone can explain this I'd like to know!)

cheers

alex
 

Spongerbob

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Aug 5, 2005
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I'm glad the 4x setting works for you. I'm not a techie to understand what you're talking about "underclock my RAM in the BIOS from 200Mhz to 166Mhz". I do have 1GB Corsair PC3200 Value Ram running at 400Mhz but didn't have to do anything else except 4x adjustment.

I agree that it sucks having a 8x mobo and 8x video card and can't fully utilize them. It's like buying a V8 car but finding out that you're getting a V6 later. But if it performs like a V8, then who cares!

So far I still haven't found a different solution at 8x setting. If you do, please let me know.
 

daines1

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Jul 26, 2005
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Good to hear that some of you figured it out. Way to go.

I've been able to play for some time now and it's been fun. Been. Last night I dropped all my settings to Medium so that the stupid OIL FIELDS map wouldn't lag my videocard so bad. I joined a 64 player server and was off killing. Well I was flying around in a heli shooting off the side of the gunship and all the sudden everything froze... It sat there for about 30 seconds and then the screen went black. I then heard the sounds from the game even though I couldn't see anything.

An ATI error appeared saying something about the video disabling and driver crashing. After a reboot, I was back in 600x800 and 4bit. I changed all the settings again and it appeared to be happy again. I joined a game and played for about 30 more minutes with no problem. I shut down my computer before I went to bed.

This morning I powered on the computer and everything was going fine. Windows XP load screen was going and then after I entered my username and password, the screen went dark again (monitor light did not go out so it was getting a signal) and I heard windows load up. After about 20 seconds of waiting the computer rebooted. I tried powering it up again and same problem after XP splash screen went by.

Man what a pain in the butt. I'll figure it out this afternoon maybe. I'm hoping that I don't have to get a new Videocard outta this. It'll cost a lot!

daines1
 

Spongerbob

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Aug 5, 2005
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I don't know about you guys, but the 9800 Pro is my first and probably my last product from ATI. So much trouble for the $$$. Given its age, you'd think that ATI would resolved all the bugs by now.

I should have stuck with NVidia. My old but reliable FX5200 PCI was churning along in BF2 in low setting. The graphic wasn't the best, but I sure scored lots of point. Look for me as "HRGuy" in the game guys.
 

mikemchargue

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I too was having this problem with BF2. I don't play AA so I can't comment on that. My system specs (for reference):

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+
2 XFX 7800 GTX in SLI
DFL lanparty UT SLI-DR mobo
4 GB PC 4800 OCZ Platinum memory
Audigy 4 Pro
2 500 GB SATA drives in a nVidia RAID 0
Antec 550 watt PSU

Obviously, I figured I could play the game with all settings maxed out, and I could for a day or so. Then I started having a crash to the desktop in single player and a hard freeze in multiplayer.

After reading this thread, and the threads linked here, I was able to fix the problem on my system. I write this to encourage anyone having these problems that it *can* be fixed, you just have to find out what is the specific issue on your system.

For me, the game works fine with all settings maxed if I do both of these things:

1. Disable my firewall software and antivirus software.
2. Set Audio rendering to software and medium quality.

If I just do one of the above, I keep crashing. Also, I don't have any lockups, freezes or crashes in any other game or application. I play CS:S, HL2, Doom 3, Far Cry, UT 2003 and 2004, Rome: Total War, Halo, MSFT Flight Sim 2004, Thief: Deadly Shadows, Dues EX: Invisible War and many other "heavy" games on my rig with no problems. BF2 is the only game that requires troubleshooting to run. I consider this a problem with BF2 and not with my system.

I hope this is helpful to someone.
 

piddlefoot

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your video card cant draw 1.4 billion pixles at a time, at 128 megs ram its doomed for speed, l would say at a guess your gpu has gone into recovery mode, from massive overload, and there may be a default file debug in its folders somewhere, even on low settings l dont like the chances of a smooth game dude.