Symantec has ruined Ghost

tcsenter

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I installed Norton Ghost 9.0 for the first time from my new SystemWorks 2005 CD, to play around with it, and it appears that Symantec has completely fubar'd the Ghost we all know and love (those of us who know and love it, that is).

I've been using Ghost since before Symantec acquired it from Binary Research (version 4.0), now they've went and turned Norton Ghost into a glorified backup program based on PowerQuest's Drive Image! No menu-driven DOS interface, no command line interface, just a stupid Microsoft .NET framework application (.NET is required now to install Ghost).

I hate it when companies try to 're-invent' a highly successful product and end-up with something that no longer even resembles the original version in functionality or features. And why on earth would Symantec use PowerQuest's crappy Drive Image code instead of adding Drive Image's features to the more powerful Ghost code? That would be like FireFox deciding they were going to use Internet Explorer as their core instead of Mozilla. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!

Drive Image was more popular with the masses (consumers) because it was more simple to use than Ghost, which of course means it wasn't as robust or powerful as Ghost, either. So to appeal to the masses, Symantec took a powerful utility and consumerized it (i.e. castrated), turning it into just another backup program with absolutely no unique features.

I hope it is as successful as the Titanic. The last version of Ghost to preserve the original concept and functionality that became synonymous with Ghost seems to be 8.0/8.2, but that is a corporate/enterprise version and you need to purchase at least 10 licenses.

At least we still have Ghost 7.5/2003 Release 2 with full NTFS support. Bastids!
 

tcsenter

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I'm not so sure basic drive imaging softwares are even worth it anymore...
Whachutalkinbout, Willis?

Ghost rocks for deployment solutions (local and network), disaster recovery, system restore media, drive cloning/migration, dynamic partition resizing when cloning, and the list goes on.
 

Auric

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Yeah, I have used Ghost since the early days and continue using the 2003 DOS version sans all the Windows bloat (well, I have the Ghost Explorer exe).
 

n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: tcsenter
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I'm not so sure basic drive imaging softwares are even worth it anymore...
Whachutalkinbout, Willis?

Ghost rocks for deployment solutions (local and network), disaster recovery, system restore media, drive cloning/migration, dynamic partition resizing when cloning, and the list goes on.

I haven't seen the demo yet. I might report back after I have. :beer:
 

13Gigatons

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Drive Image 6.0 is tha bomb !!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Drive Image 7.0 is a bomb that exploded. :thumbsdown:

True Image 8.0 is now the way to go or Image for Windows or Image for DOS.

Ghost 9.0 is just picking all the pieces from Drive Image 7.0 and trying to glue them back together.
 

juiio

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
aside from SAV Corporate Edition, what has symantec not ruined?

Backup Exec and NetBackup.

Then again, the merger hasn't officially happened quite yet, so give them time...
 

corkyg

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Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
Drive Image 6.0 is tha bomb !!! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

Drive Image 7.0 is a bomb that exploded. :thumbsdown:

True Image 8.0 is now the way to go or Image for Windows or Image for DOS.

Ghost 9.0 is just picking all the pieces from Drive Image 7.0 and trying to glue them back together.

Right on! TrueImage 8 is the best. Ghost is yesterday's news. Everything Symantec touches turns to dung - started back in the eartly 90s when they bought and buried PC Tools.
 

Underclocked

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Don't forget to get your Acronis Updates. They put another version out near the end of May. This thread reminded me to check and sho 'nuff.
 

yoda291

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likely, they're going to phase/integrate ghost with their livestate recovery product. The last time I spoke with a symantec reseller consultancy, they were pushing livestate(formerly v2i) pretty hard and, at least on paper, it looks like it will probably replace ghost altogether for system image creation/deployment. Little curious as to how they're going to do enterprise level deployments. Hardware independent images and modular incrementals looks interesting but those are easy enough to do without ghost.