Switched from DSL to cable. Holy *bleep!*

Phantronius

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It was two years ago this Month and nearly to the day that my life changed forever. After years of wishing, praying, begging and pleading with my local phone company, they at long last installed Remote terminals that allowed me to have broadband after 11 years of dialup use when I first started working with computers.

Since that day, I have beloved my 1.5/896 DSL connection. I think back now to having to dial up through my parents phone line to play DAOC for 5 hours after school and work only to have it disconnect during raids, gatherings or someone yanking the phone line to get a damn phone call. For 3 years after building my first PC in 2001, I had to deal with the worst bottleneck to any gamer, 56k connection. It left me with only being able to go to LAN parties to enjoy the awesome T1 speed of broadband.

However, it wasn't all glamorous after the DSL was activated. I soon realized that Qwest did line correction on the DSL and which in turn created a 32ms increase in ping delay. The result, my servers either BF1942, HL2, UT2k4, Counterstrike, BF2 were all 100ms or more. Granted, I adapted and did pretty well, but facing off with people in the low 30's made me realize that I was still handicapped. Within the past 6 months I got heavly into BIttorrent collecting movies and shows that I remember from my youth. Sadly, the bottleneck of 1.5meg began to show its face and sans moving to the other side of town, Qwest was not upgrading RT feed connections.

Not only that, but Qwest Actiontec modem were the biggest POS''s i've ever had to deal with. Constant reconnections, overheating, VPN problems ect...ect.... I was anxious to be rid of actioncrap from my network setup.

Today, after fighting with Qwest even more to get more speed and less game latency, I decided to move to cable. I was concered with the shared loop bandwith with cable technology but I was assured that my local Bresnan company had made infanstructre changes and was planning on upping their 3.0/256 to 8.0/512 this summer for the same price! Count me in!

THis morning after some drilling and poking from the cable installer, I was lit up with a cable connection with a new Motorola Surboard 5120 and with a heavy breath, I tested my connection speed.

7543mbps down / 513 mpbs up!!!!!!

OMFG!!!!!!! It was incredible! I have never seen websites load so fast in my life. Streaming movies were done instantly instead of waiting for buffering. My pings in my game were literally cut in half!!! Last night I was playing a gamespy BF91942 server at 130ms. This morning, I was getting 70ms!!! WOW!!!!!!

All I can say is, im gonna be very very busy and happy tonight!!!
 

spidey07

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modern cable systems are capable of offering 10 up and 10 down and even more than that.

DSL is an old school technology and will fade quickly IMHO.
 

randym431

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You tied up your parents phone for 5 hours playing a game and got mad someone wanted to use the phone? Glad your not a member of my family...
 

RelaxTheMind

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i miss my cable ::sniff sniff:: but my new apartment only gets cavalier DSL.... suck...
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: spidey07
modern cable systems are capable of offering 10 up and 10 down and even more than that.

DSL is an old school technology and will fade quickly IMHO.

Except in places where there's no cable laid down. And you can get SDSL services to rival those speeds... you have to be close to the DSLAM though...

 

ColKurtz

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Originally posted by: Phantronius

7.543kbps down / 513 kpbs up!!!!!!

I assume you mean 7 Mbps down? Holy bejeezus. I thought I was lucky occasionally getting 3+Mbps down in my neighborhood (Raleigh Time Warner).
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: spidey07
modern cable systems are capable of offering 10 up and 10 down and even more than that.

DSL is an old school technology and will fade quickly IMHO.

:thumbsup:
 

Phantronius

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Originally posted by: ColKurtz
Originally posted by: Phantronius

7.543kbps down / 513 kpbs up!!!!!!

I assume you mean 7 Mbps down? Holy bejeezus. I thought I was lucky occasionally getting 3+Mbps down in my neighborhood (Raleigh Time Warner).


Woops, my bad. Corrected. Yes, its farking awesome! To test it, I downloaded the full 1.2 BF2 patch which weighs 376 megs and it only took around 7 1/5 minutes!
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: spidey07
modern cable systems are capable of offering 10 up and 10 down and even more than that.

DSL is an old school technology and will fade quickly IMHO.

What do you think the telco's will replace it with?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: spidey07
modern cable systems are capable of offering 10 up and 10 down and even more than that.

DSL is an old school technology and will fade quickly IMHO.

What do you think the telco's will replace it with?

probably fiber. the copper they have in the ground is the limiting factor.

the cable companies have build out hybrid fiber coax networks (HFC) for a long time now so the infrastructure is in place and the technology is advancing rapidly (bonding multiple channels for higher speed)

I was speaking with the VP of engineering of a large cable company the other day. He just said "we can offer all sorts of speeds, we just don't want to because 10% of our users take 97% of our bandwidth. it's the damn kids."
 

Genx87

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That is interesting. I know the cable company dropped fiber in the ground around here but dont know about the telco. Looking forward to a day when we can have a nice fiber connection right to the house ;)
 

Thor86

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Originally posted by: Genx87
That is interesting. I know the cable company dropped fiber in the ground around here but dont know about the telco. Looking forward to a day when we can have a nice fiber connection right to the house ;)

Yes, cable broadband is nice currently, but waiting for fiber to the premises. I would definately sign up for that kind of bandwidth. :)
 

insename2

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lol, 70 ping isnt even that great for cable... but it'll get better when u find better servers
 

bdww00

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yeah i get 4mb down and 384k up and my ping in most games in us 30-40-50-60 so way in the norm

but hey a thread about switching from dismally slow line to cable is worth about a :cookie:
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: spidey07
modern cable systems are capable of offering 10 up and 10 down and even more than that.

DSL is an old school technology and will fade quickly IMHO.

Excuse me.

DSL has only had it's problems becuase the phone Co's have made the problems on purpose in order to extract every extra penny they can get out of the technology.

Original 1996 DSL was designed for 6 meg down 1 meg up.

Until 2004 Phone Co's ran it at 1.5 meg tops.

Qwest then opened up the ports where they had sufficient backhaul to 8 meg.

I am getting 7 meg on regular original DSL.

They have also installed ADSL2 but not rolling it out yet. That can do 25 meg down with a ADSL2 Modem. They will put TV over IP with that. True cable competition, finally.
 

evilsaint

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With as many deals as the WISPs around nowadays are offering (especially on waiving the initial install fees, which were the only problem with Wireless connections before) and the bandwith that they're capable of, they could probably gobble up a decent chunk of the market share in areas with room for the towers that the routers need to be on...

Seriously though, we may get gas for cheaper in the US, but internet service is unbelievably cheaper across parts of Europe and Asia... i've seen ads that were basically the equivalent of $30US/month for ~30Mbit connections :brokenheart:
 

MoFunk

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I called my local cable company to switch. I wanted faster upload speed. To get that I had to go to the 8meg plan to get 768 upload, but I am not a cable subscriber so it was going to cost me $75 per month! Sheesh. I called my DSL back and get the 1.5 - 3 plan with a 384-512 upload for $20..... I am sticking with the $20 plan.

I guess I will have to wait until either cable prices drop, or until my local telco sets up fiber....
 

orion23

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Optimum Online just upgraded us from a 1.1MBps to 1.7MBps. That's a 50% increase.
To know I use to have a 5kbps with AOL dial-up
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: Phantronius
All I can say is, im gonna be very very busy and happy tonight!!!

I'm sure you will now that your Pr0n can load that much faster as well.
 

spidey07

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Dravic,

Cable can achieve much higher speeds than that. you should compain to your provider.
 

xtknight

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7543 mbps? Well, I have to admit, that is pretty good. OC48 users everywhere envy you.