Swimming is a crime worthy of death?????

[Lemon law]

The link somewhat says it all, Israel fired on and killed at least four people wearing diving suits off the coast of Gaza. Why did they not capture them instead? Instead of shooting to kill.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/world/middleeast/08gaza.html?ref=global-home

Then it gets odder still, these guys are not associated with Hamas in Gaza, they are more nominally associated with the Fatah party in the West Bank. But a spokeman said they were just on a training mission, while Israel, without any evidence, says they were engaging in a real attack. In short, where is the recovered bombs and explosives to show this was an actual attack, rather than just recreational swimming.

 

[c0nn0r]

actually, sounds like yellow journalism...
but if it IS true...I hope some of the swimmers get bazooka one day

 

[DesiPower]

Why would anyone swimming at a place where the situation has been pretty tense for the last couple of weeks??? makes not sense to me. must have been somehow persuaded or forced to go there knowing that Israeli will retaliate and they will have another shot at whining for support from the felt kool aid drinkers who support violence when it comes to minorities.

 

[Jaskalas]

You want to live in a warzone? Best way is to GTFO.

 

[LTC8K6]

Swimming? Who believes that?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10252229.stm

 

[nonlnear]

The Gaza branch of the Aksa Martyrs Brigades, a militant group nominally associated with the mainstream Fatah movement led by President Mahmoud Abbas, said the four were among its members. The group said they belonged to its marine unit and that they were training at the time they were hit.

Sounds like Israel was doing them a favor. These brave souls were given the wonderful privilege of jumping the line, going from trainee to experienced martyr in record time! :awe:

 

[Sinsear]

The Gaza branch of the Aksa Martyrs Brigades, a militant group nominally associated with the mainstream Fatah movement led by President Mahmoud Abbas, said the four were among its members. The group said they belonged to its marine unit and that they were training at the time they were hit.

Sounds like Israel was doing them a favor. These brave souls were given the wonderful privilege of jumping the line, going from trainee to experienced martyr in record time! :awe:

Lemonloser owned again...

 

[MotF Bane]

Members of a militant group go swimming at night in an area patrolled by Navy vessels? Even Darwin wins here.

 

[SamurAchzar]

The link somewhat says it all, Israel fired on and killed at least four people wearing diving suits off the coast of Gaza. Why did they not capture them instead? Instead of shooting to kill.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/world/middleeast/08gaza.html?ref=global-home

Then it gets odder still, these guys are not associated with Hamas in Gaza, they are more nominally associated with the Fatah party in the West Bank. But a spokeman said they were just on a training mission, while Israel, without any evidence, says they were engaging in a real attack. In short, where is the recovered bombs and explosives to show this was an actual attack, rather than just recreational swimming.

"Ahmad was just on his way to the market to SELL the explosives! He didn't intend to blow himself up!"

 

[Moonbeam]

Today four die and some cheer. Tomorrow four will die and those who cheered will be sad. This will be repeated and repeated and repeated until the end of sides.

Do you have a side?

If you do you're a killer and the reason the world is dying.

But then who cares?

If you have no side you have died to your ego.

And you're too small to do that, aren't you?

For none can believe the Kingdom of Heaven is within you.

And what we do here in our sleep is our living hell.

 

[Lemon law]

I simply ask how paranoid is Israel becoming that its shoots first and asks questions later.

Would you like a nutty next door neighbor like that?

Basically Israel is becoming convinced the world is out to get them, and its getting well past time that their paranoia is becoming a self fufiling prophesy.

 

[palehorse]

I simply ask how paranoid is Israel becoming that its shoots first and asks questions later.

Would you like a nutty next door neighbor like that?

Basically Israel is becoming convinced the world is out to get them, and its getting well past time that their paranoia is becoming a self fufiling prophesy.

gee LL, I surely have no idea why Israel would be so paranoid... after all, the militants are such peaceful folk!

 

[Patranus]

Members of a militant group go swimming at night in an area patrolled by Navy vessels? Even Darwin wins here.

Yup.

 

[nageov3t]

FWIW.. all Iran would have to do is have divers sneak in and blow up another offshore well like the Gulf

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=29943369&postcount=21

 

[EagleKeeper]

I simply ask how paranoid is Israel becoming that its shoots first and asks questions later.

Would you like a nutty next door neighbor like that?

Basically Israel is becoming convinced the world is out to get them, and its getting well past time that their paranoia is becoming a self fufiling prophesy.

Maybe because the world has been shown to be against them.

They back Israel's enemies all the time.
Never do anything when enemies attempt to destroy the coutnry and/or attack it's citizens.
Ignore nation states that are developing WMD and have stated taht they are out to destroy Israel as a state.
Refuse to enforce it's own rules about countries honoring their committments to not rearm the terrorist groups.
Encourage people to create a media circus to show up Israel and then complaining when people are injured/killed due to their actions.

 

[cubby1223]

I simply ask how paranoid is Israel becoming that its shoots first and asks questions later.

Would you like a nutty next door neighbor like that?

Basically Israel is becoming convinced the world is out to get them, and its getting well past time that their paranoia is becoming a self fufiling prophesy.

From the linked BBC Article:

"There has been sporadic rocket fire out of Gaza into Israel since last week's naval attack on the Gaza aid flotilla."

We'd all prefer there be no fighting in the region, but it's idiots like you who keep defending one side while somehow ignoring that your exact line of reasoning is also what goes *agaist* Gaza.

 

[QuantumPion]

I simply ask how paranoid is Israel becoming that its shoots first and asks questions later.

Technically, Israel shot second.

The Palestinians shot first. And they didn't bother asking questions later.

 

[DucatiMonster696]

I am sure these 4 weren't part of the local Polar Bear club. Especially since they had diving suits on and explosives. Maybe they were delivering "aid" to the starving children of Gaza Hamas style.

 

[EagleKeeper]

I am sure these 4 weren't part of the local Polar Bear club. Especially since they had diving suits on and explosives. Maybe they were delivering "aid" to the starving children of Gaza Hamas style.

Training for hostilities apparently does not as engaging in hostilities.
Assuming that they were actually training.

 

[GoPackGo]

Traning for / carrying out an attack makes no difference. They are targets.

 

[Throckmorton]

I thought this thread was going to be about women in Saudi Arabia being stoned for swimming

 

[Sinsear]

I thought this thread was going to be about women in Saudi Arabia being stoned for swimming

I'm sure we can start another religion of peace thread if you want.

 

[nonlnear]

I thought this thread was going to be about women in Saudi Arabia being stoned for swimming

That was actually my first guess prior to clicking as well.

 

[Zebo]

Swimming? Who believes that?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10252229.stm

This and Israel did them a favor. Now they are martyrs , before they were just wannabe SEALS.

 

[JSt0rm]

Today four die and some cheer. Tomorrow four will die and those who cheered will be sad. This will be repeated and repeated and repeated until the end of sides.

QFT

isnt it time to be smarter about living life?