Swiftech H220 VS. XSPC Raystorm 750 RS240

[Face2Face]

Hey Guys,

I am thinking of going with some sort of heavier duty water cooling setup for my gaming PC. I currently have a H60 in a Push/Pull with Corsair SP120 quiet fans. Surprisingly it does pretty well @ 4.8Ghz @ 1.308v, in the high 60's low 70's when gaming. When running prime 95 and other stress testers it sees low 90's. Pretty hot, but not too worried because this PC is used primarily for gaming or web surfing. I am kind of worried about the summer months and seeing my temps gradually rise.

I am debating between these two options.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...ew_Rev_4_Pump_Included_w_Free_Dead-Water.html $174.98 with white tubing and Fluid

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/1...uid_Cooling_System_-_ETA_End_of_February.html $139.99

Does anyone have any experiences with the XSPC kit? it appears the Revision 4 has a better pump and is more reliable. The kit with the D5 Laing pump is out of my price range. I am assuming this kit will be better for lower temps, but by how much? I don't plan on adding a GPU to the loop anytime soon, so take that out of mix. I would also like to add white tubing and fluid to the XSPC so that would add to the cost, about 30$ more.

I don't have any issues doing water cooling since I am capable of doing it, but installing the H220 would take a lot less time and if the temps are the about the same then it seems like a better bet for me.

Give me your thoughts and opinions guys.

Also - Getting 5Ghz stable with decent temps would be nice too

 

[dma0991]

The XSPC kit is quite good, even contemplated on getting one but I didn't as I did not like the pump to be a part of the reservoir. The D5 reservoir is nice but you don't need that much flow as the loop isn't restrictive enough with a single CPU block.

Hitting 5GHz will depend entirely on your chip. Voltage requirement rises exponentially beyond 4.5GHz on mine. I'm not temp limited as it would be around 85C or less for any stress tests that I run.

As I see it, the Swiftech option is cheapest and easiest to install. The XSPC kit is at a similar price range but it gives you a lot more to work with in terms of expandability. Based on what you've described, go with the Swiftech.

 

[Kenmitch]

I'd think they would have similar performance.

Despite that, and despite the cost, the Swiftech H220 is basically the cooler to get if you're in the market for a 240mm closed loop cooler. It fulfills the promise the H100i inexplicably doesn't, and is basically as good as it's going to get before you get into either 280mm radiators or entirely custom cooling loops

Above quote is from the Anandtech article earlier this month http://www.anandtech.com/show/6716/closing-the-loop-ii-new-liquid-coolers-from-corsair-and-swiftech

Not much as far as reviews on the H220 goes as it's not being sold yet. I'd think more in depth reviews will pop up once it's released tho.

 

[Face2Face]

Good information, thanks guys. My chip will hit 5Ghz no problem, just not with good temps. Voltage around 1.35-1.36.

 

[BrightCandle]

As far as I know from the other posters here the issue with Ivy Bridge temperatures is more to do with the lid and thermal paste issue than it is to do with raw wattage. A 3930k running at 4.5Ghz can pull 200Watts+ easily, and when you really push them 250W. An Ivy Bridge doesn't pull that sort of power even at 5Ghz. So high end air should cool it to a reasonable temperature.

The issue with Ivy Bridge is that the thermal interface from the core to the lid is very poor and that makes pulling the heat from the CPU quite inefficient. So to get these high overclocks without overheating really requires you delid your CPU and replace the thermal paste with something better or run the CPU delidded. If you do so you'll find you don't need water cooling which is really only necessary if the heat problem is due to the amount of power output of the CPU itself. From what I gather at extreme systems your only really looking at 150W at 5Ghz, which is on the verge of wanting water cooling but its certainly not necessary to reach that overclock.

 

[Face2Face]

As far as I know from the other posters here the issue with Ivy Bridge temperatures is more to do with the lid and thermal paste issue than it is to do with raw wattage. A 3930k running at 4.5Ghz can pull 200Watts+ easily, and when you really push them 250W. An Ivy Bridge doesn't pull that sort of power even at 5Ghz. So high end air should cool it to a reasonable temperature.

The issue with Ivy Bridge is that the thermal interface from the core to the lid is very poor and that makes pulling the heat from the CPU quite inefficient. So to get these high overclocks without overheating really requires you delid your CPU and replace the thermal paste with something better or run the CPU delidded. If you do so you'll find you don't need water cooling which is really only necessary if the heat problem is due to the amount of power output of the CPU itself. From what I gather at extreme systems your only really looking at 150W at 5Ghz, which is on the verge of wanting water cooling but its certainly not necessary to reach that overclock.

I would rather not Delid the CPU. I don't want to risk messing it up. Seems easy enough, but would rather not. So maybe a better cooler wouldn't be much of a help?