Swedish "Super Size Me" fails to replicate Spurlock's results

[yankeesfan]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/health/story/0,,1866485,00.html

"Super Size Me" was entertaining, but I didn't look at it from an education standpoint because their was no replication of the results elsewhere. Some Swedish professors and students decided to take on the diet challenge and found some inconsistencies when comparing their results to Spurlock's conclusions.

edit: Damn. Almost a year old.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Yeah. While Spurlocks video was interesting, he did go a bit overboard. He ate even though he wasn't hungry, he ate EVERY single meal at McDonalds, and basically forced himself to eat.

 

[vetteguy]

The only thing I found more disgusting than eating that much McDonald's was Spurlock's omega-level opinion of himself and his importance to society. I love how on several occasions he coaxed the "doctors" he was talking to into saying that eating fast food was basically killing him, and if he didn't stop immediately he would die by the end of the month. The most gut-wrenching (and by that I mean made me sick to my stomach) moment was when he was having his little breakdown to the camera not knowing if he could 'go on', but he 'had to' for everyone's sake.

UGHHHHHHHHH

 

[BigJ]

When are we going to have Soylent Big Macs?

 

[NikolaeVarius]

http://fanboys-online.com/comic.php?cid=176

Awesome

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Yeah. While Spurlocks video was interesting, he did go a bit overboard. He ate even though he wasn't hungry, he ate EVERY single meal at McDonalds, and basically forced himself to eat.

Yup, if you eat that much of ANYTHING, you're going to fvck yourself up.
It has little to do with the fact that it's fast food.

 

[StageLeft]

Only thing worse tha mcdonalds every day is people who thought this represented anything more than entertainment and tried to "replicate" his results like it was a multi-blind drug study. For frig's sake.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Yeah. While Spurlocks video was interesting, he did go a bit overboard. He ate even though he wasn't hungry, he ate EVERY single meal at McDonalds, and basically forced himself to eat.

Yup, if you eat that much of ANYTHING, you're going to fvck yourself up.
It has little to do with the fact that it's fast food.

I think the fact that McDonald's food is high in calories and fat has some effect...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Yeah. While Spurlocks video was interesting, he did go a bit overboard. He ate even though he wasn't hungry, he ate EVERY single meal at McDonalds, and basically forced himself to eat.

Yup, if you eat that much of ANYTHING, you're going to fvck yourself up.
It has little to do with the fact that it's fast food.

I think the fact that McDonald's food is high in calories and fat has some effect...

It actually does. Fast food does **** up your liver faster than anything. I think its the unique combo of salt, chemicals, more chemicals, oil, more chemicals. I don't think you will ever find something like that outside of fast food.

The calories are an extra punch too.

Also McDonlds does mess a bit with their nutrition facts, ans laboratory test sproved.

 

[WildHorse]

Good thing Swedes know better than to scarf that glop.

The better to fit into their outfits: Swedish Team 3 outta 4 ain't bad.

And again

I love Sweden. Did you know that the 1st "president" of the USA )prior to the Continental Congress) was Swedish? Teh firs guy who administered what became the USA was from Sweden, a place I love to visit.

vino fino

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: astroidea

Originally posted by: tenshodo13
Yeah. While Spurlocks video was interesting, he did go a bit overboard. He ate even though he wasn't hungry, he ate EVERY single meal at McDonalds, and basically forced himself to eat.

Yup, if you eat that much of ANYTHING, you're going to fvck yourself up.
It has little to do with the fact that it's fast food.

I think the fact that McDonald's food is high in calories and fat has some effect...

Anything is high in calories if you eat enough of it. Of course if you go eat a double quarter pounder meal, supersize, it's going to be loaded with calories.
But on the other hand, you could eat just as healty at mc donalds as you can at a lot of places.
Snack wraps with orange juice for breakfast, grilled chicken sandwhich with walnut salad for lunch or dinner.

On the other hand, you could go to a decent restaurant and chow down on a huge steak, mashed potatoes, and to top it off with a huge cake, it's going to fvck up your health far more.
There's nothing anomalous about fast food that suddenly makes it unhealthy. Hamburgers and fries are unhealthy whether if it comes from fast food or not.
Grilled chicken sandwhiches are no more healthy than if you made it at home.

 

[aCynic2]

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: mugs

I think the fact that McDonald's food is high in calories and fat has some effect...

It actually does. Fast food does **** up your liver faster than anything. I think its the unique combo of salt, chemicals, more chemicals, oil, more chemicals. I don't think you will ever find something like that outside of fast food.

The calories are an extra punch too.

Also McDonlds does mess a bit with their nutrition facts, ans laboratory test sproved.

I know a about 4 nutritional pros that would shoot that down:

http://forums.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=24682

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: aCynic2

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: mugs

I think the fact that McDonald's food is high in calories and fat has some effect...

It actually does. Fast food does **** up your liver faster than anything. I think its the unique combo of salt, chemicals, more chemicals, oil, more chemicals. I don't think you will ever find something like that outside of fast food.

The calories are an extra punch too.

Also McDonlds does mess a bit with their nutrition facts, ans laboratory test sproved.

I know a about 4 nutritional pros that would shoot that down:

http://forums.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=24682

Completely disingenuous. A bodybuilder will easily burn off the calories from eating McDonald's meals every day. That is not the case for normal people.

 

[aCynic2]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: aCynic2

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: mugs

I think the fact that McDonald's food is high in calories and fat has some effect...

It actually does. Fast food does **** up your liver faster than anything. I think its the unique combo of salt, chemicals, more chemicals, oil, more chemicals. I don't think you will ever find something like that outside of fast food.

The calories are an extra punch too.

Also McDonlds does mess a bit with their nutrition facts, ans laboratory test sproved.

I know a about 4 nutritional pros that would shoot that down:

http://forums.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=24682

Completely disingenuous. A bodybuilder will easily burn off the calories from eating McDonald's meals every day. That is not the case for normal people.

But the statement was that it messes up the liver, the salt, etc. Not that the excess calories are bad, but that it messes up the liver, the salt, the chemicals, etc.

These guys are saying Spurlock was FOS and the people who place the blanket statement that fast food is bad for the body are also FOS. And their statements are regardless of athleticism or exercise level. They deal with all walks of life and have decades of experience in nutritional science. They know what they are talking about.

Aragon's whole purpose in life is to eat and teach people about eating and he doesn't pull punches when it comes to myth busting.

 

[Flammable]

omg this thread is makin me crave for some mcdonalds

 

[DAWeinG]

They had inconsistencies because they were not eating McDonald's. Not to say that the study is invalid but if they wanted to make Spurlock a standard for comparing results, then they should have stuck with McDonald's. But regardless, Spurlock's message was directed at the general public who doesn't know any better. Not sure why there's so many criticism against Spurlock and his movie. It's really not about him but about us as a fast food nation. His message comes at a time where obesity is rising fast and is soon to be the leading cause of preventable deaths next to tobacco.

 

[aCynic2]

Originally posted by: DAWeinG
Not sure why there's so many criticism against Spurlock and his movie. It's really not about him but about us as a fast food nation. His message comes at a time where obesity is rising fast and is soon to be the leading cause of preventable deaths next to tobacco.

People criticize him over the same reasons they criticize Michael Moore. He deliberately manipulated facts, sequence of events, etc, to such a degree that it doesn't represent the truth anymore. It makes the public out to be the victim when all McD is doing is catering to fat, lazy people who don't want to take responsibility for their lives and feed themselves proper or activate themselves off the couch or away from the computer.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: Flammable
omg this thread is makin me crave for some mcdonalds

Same.

 

[DAWeinG]

Originally posted by: aCynic2

Originally posted by: DAWeinG
Not sure why there's so many criticism against Spurlock and his movie. It's really not about him but about us as a fast food nation. His message comes at a time where obesity is rising fast and is soon to be the leading cause of preventable deaths next to tobacco.

People criticize him over the same reasons they criticize Michael Moore. He deliberately manipulated facts, sequence of events, etc, to such a degree that it doesn't represent the truth anymore. It makes the public out to be the victim when all McD is doing is catering to fat, lazy people who don't want to take responsibility for their lives and feed themselves proper or activate themselves off the couch or away from the computer.

I agree to a certain extent. I don't believe everything he put in his movie was true but I don't believe that everything in there was false or greatly misleading either (it's a Hollywood movie, what can you expect but to be entertained). But this may have been the best way to get the message across. I personally think it would have been better if people were brainwashed into thinking fast food is bad after watching the movie than to criticize him.

 

[tfcmasta97]

He forced himself to eat mcdonalds when he wasnt hungry, coming straight off of a puss vegan diet.

He was a weak subject to begin with and he ruined Supersized fries and 20 piece nuggets for everyone else around, just because he's too stupid to understand a concept of self control.

"OMG Look im eating KFC 24/7, suckin up the fat when im finished and I got sick after a month"

 

[0roo0roo]

yea think it was in new scientist mag a few issues back.

seems spurlock was just genetically weak

 

[everman]

This part is interesting:

"The students managed to gain between 5-15% extra weight over the month."

What I think is important is understanding why the range is so large, assuming they ate similar foods.

 

[aCynic2]

Originally posted by: DAWeinG
I personally think it would have been better if people were brainwashed into thinking fast food is bad after watching the movie than to criticize him.

No, I say, it's not the food that's bad, it's the thinking that food is bad that's bad. I still have BK, once every few weeks, I have Pizza Shuttle pizza every 2-3 weeks.

It's about making proper choices in proportion to what is healthy. But for some reason, people can't do that for themselves. They're victims. Personally, I say they're mentally retarded if they can't make proper choices for themselves.

 

[aCynic2]

Originally posted by: everman
This part is interesting:

"The students managed to gain between 5-15% extra weight over the month."

What I think is important is understanding why the range is so large, assuming they ate similar foods.

There could be a ton of factors, but one I'll speculate on is metabolic differences brought on by chronically undereating.

If you eat too little, you're metabolism will slow down to adjust. The human body is a remarkable machine at adaptation to it's environment. It's why we didn't go extinct 40,000BC when it got tough.

Undereat too long and it will take a lot of work to get your metabolism back up to normal.

 

[IAteYourMother]

Originally posted by: aCynic2

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: aCynic2

Originally posted by: tenshodo13

Originally posted by: mugs

I think the fact that McDonald's food is high in calories and fat has some effect...

It actually does. Fast food does **** up your liver faster than anything. I think its the unique combo of salt, chemicals, more chemicals, oil, more chemicals. I don't think you will ever find something like that outside of fast food.

The calories are an extra punch too.

Also McDonlds does mess a bit with their nutrition facts, ans laboratory test sproved.

I know a about 4 nutritional pros that would shoot that down:

http://forums.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=24682

Completely disingenuous. A bodybuilder will easily burn off the calories from eating McDonald's meals every day. That is not the case for normal people.

But the statement was that it messes up the liver, the salt, etc. Not that the excess calories are bad, but that it messes up the liver, the salt, the chemicals, etc.

These guys are saying Spurlock was FOS and the people who place the blanket statement that fast food is bad for the body are also FOS. And their statements are regardless of athleticism or exercise level. They deal with all walks of life and have decades of experience in nutritional science. They know what they are talking about.

Aragon's whole purpose in life is to eat and teach people about eating and he doesn't pull punches when it comes to myth busting.

strenuous exercise will burn out alot of the excess salts and calories