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SUV Thread: 6-23-07 100 kids a year killed in backovers by SUV's and Mini-Vans

dmcowen674

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Dave's math was incorrect
1200 * 50% over 6 years is 100/year not 600/year

The thread title was corrected for his glaring (if not deliberate oversight).


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SUV thread

They suck up gas, cause horrific wrecks and KILL:


Many suggestions come to mind besides the rear cameras and sensors

Having the windows down so you can hear

Always having a spotter when backing these behemoths

Not having a vehicle that's so high off the ground to begin with when you have small children.

6-23-2007 Backover deaths create family nightmares

Adrianna was one of more than 1,200 children under 15 who were killed since 2000 in nontraffic motor vehicle accidents in the United States. Half of those fatalities were in backovers, almost all of them involving children under 5

Rachel and David believed they'd taken all the precautions to protect their children. They had installed a fence around the backyard swimming pool, with a gate latch high enough so the kids couldn't reach it. But when they purchased their Infiniti QX4, they were coaxed into getting a sunroof. No mention was made of rear cameras that could help them see better as they back up, Rachel says.

A pediatrician from Syosset, N.Y., Greg believes he and his wife, Leslie, did all the right things. They childproofed their Long Island home and researched the safest SUV for their two sons, Scott, 5, and 2-year-old Cameron, before settling on a BMW X5.

One evening, Oct. 19, 2002, Greg went out to park the truck with the rear facing their condominium. Street traffic could be heavy in the morning when he left for work.

"I remember explicitly driving that car from the street into the driveway that night," he says. "I was backing it in between parked cars on the driveway. I was going very slowly. I didn't want to hit anything. I was looking through the rearview mirrors, looking over my shoulder.

"I felt a bump. The bump was at the front wheel. I was going backward. What was down there ? 9:30 at night? The newspaper wasn't there yet. As the car went back farther, my son was in the headlights."

It was Cameron.

"When people realize a conservative, well-educated, middle-aged pediatrician taking all the necessary safety measures, who spends his days and nights helping families stay safe and healthy, accidentally backs over and kills his son, then it's time to realize backover injuries are real," he says.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, in a report to Congress in November, said backover accidents are not a recent phenomenon. But NHTSA disputes perceptions that the number of accidents is increasing as the size of the nation's vehicle fleet grows ? led by SUVs and minivans, which tend to have larger rear blind zones.

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I wish the Gov a speedy recovery and the trooper that was driving him.

That out of the way I also believe he should be issued a citation for not wearing a seat belt.

It doesn't say anything about the trooper not wearing a seat belt.

A typical do as I say not what I do from the elected officials and authorities.

4-13-2007 N.J. gov. wasn't wearing seatbelt in crash

CAMDEN, N.J. - Gov. Jon S. Corzine was apparently not wearing his seat belt as required by law when his official SUV crashed into a guard rail, leaving the governor hospitalized in critical condition, a spokesman said Friday.

A state trooper was driving Corzine to a meeting between Don Imus and the Rutgers women's basketball team Thursday night when another vehicle, swerving to avoid a pickup truck, hit the governor's SUV and sent it into the guard rail on the Garden State Parkway.

The crash broke the governor's leg, six ribs, his sternum and a vertebrae. Authorities were searching for the pickup truck driver blamed for causing it.

Seat belts are mandatory for everyone in front seats in New Jersey; the fine for violating the law is $46.
 
Ordinarily I'd agree...
...leaving the governor hospitalized in critical condition...

The crash broke the governor's leg, six ribs, his sternum and a vertebrae.
But in this case I think he learned his lesson.
 
It's the evil Bush conspiracy at work again, trying to murder their political opponents whom get in their way of trying to start foreign wars for profit and their oil buddies. I bet Cheney was the one driving the truck!
 
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
It's the evil Bush conspiracy at work again, trying to murder their political opponents whom get in their way of trying to start foreign wars for profit and their oil buddies. I bet Cheney was the one driving the truck!

They did say a red truck caused it...hmmmmm
 
Seriously, what could be accomplished by giving a millionaire a $46 seatbelt ticket. The guy is in critical condition. Can we just leave the politics out of it?

Do you also think the state trooper that was driving him should be punished for having a passenger without a seatbelt?

You people are ridiculous. If anything, his current condition acts as a very good warning as to why you should wear a seatbelt.
 
Originally posted by: shoegazer
Seriously, what could be accomplished by giving a millionaire a $46 seatbelt ticket. The guy is in critical condition. Can we just leave the politics out of it?

Do you also think the state trooper that was driving him should be punished for having a passenger without a seatbelt?

You people are ridiculous. If anything, his current condition acts as a very good warning as to why you should wear a seatbelt.

Why shouldn't he get the fine the law is the law. Or do you think that the law should only apply to peons. I'm sure this isn't the first time he broke the law and I'm willing to bet he used his position to as governor to get out of fines in the past.

As for the state trooper if law allows both the drive and the passenger to get fined then he should also get fined. After that they should take disciplinary actions against him for failing to ticket the governor before the accident happened.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Originally posted by: shoegazer
Seriously, what could be accomplished by giving a millionaire a $46 seatbelt ticket. The guy is in critical condition. Can we just leave the politics out of it?

Do you also think the state trooper that was driving him should be punished for having a passenger without a seatbelt?

You people are ridiculous. If anything, his current condition acts as a very good warning as to why you should wear a seatbelt.

Why shouldn't he get the fine the law is the law. Or do you think that the law should only apply to peons. I'm sure this isn't the first time he broke the law and I'm willing to bet he used his position to as governor to get out of fines in the past.

As for the state trooper if law allows both the drive and the passenger to get fined then he should also get fined. After that they should take disciplinary actions against him for failing to ticket the governor before the accident happened.

No state trooper in his right mind would attempt to ticket the governor, and for good reason. People who have mouths to feed and bills to pay dont have the luxury of taking principled stands that might cost them their jobs.
 
Originally posted by: smack Down
Why shouldn't he get the fine the law is the law. Or do you think that the law should only apply to peons. I'm sure this isn't the first time he broke the law and I'm willing to bet he used his position to as governor to get out of fines in the past.

As for the state trooper if law allows both the drive and the passenger to get fined then he should also get fined. After that they should take disciplinary actions against him for failing to ticket the governor before the accident happened.

Actually, I wasn't aware that New Jersey's seatbelt laws were primary until I looked into it just now. I had thought that in order to get ticketed for not wearing a seatbelt one had to be pulled over for a different infraction.

So, then yes, I do think that Corzine should get a ticket. Do I think this is a big deal? No.
 
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
It's the evil Bush conspiracy at work again, trying to murder their political opponents whom get in their way of trying to start foreign wars for profit and their oil buddies. I bet Cheney was the one driving the truck!

No Imus did it! Corzine said he wouldn't appaer on his show ever again, and he was going to moderate the discussions between Imus and the Rutgers players... hmm...
 
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: QuantumPion
It's the evil Bush conspiracy at work again, trying to murder their political opponents whom get in their way of trying to start foreign wars for profit and their oil buddies. I bet Cheney was the one driving the truck!

No Imus did it! Corzine said he wouldn't appaer on his show ever again, and he was going to moderate the discussions between Imus and the Rutgers players... hmm...

Perhaps this is some kind of divine message, saying politicians should stick to doing their official business instead of grandstanding in some situation that he has no business being in.

 
I think it shouldn't be the law. If you want to die in an accident then go ahead and don't wear it. Darwinism at its finest.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
seems like a safe bet that he learned his lesson 🙁

Hardly. Our last governor drove around the state speeding from place to place and got a bunch of tickets. After firing a few state troopers they left him alone. Then we elected him as our congressional representative and he was back in the state for some fund raiser or something?

Anyway he ran a stop sign (he had a history of doing that too) and killed a guy on a motorcycle. He also was rumored to have been drinking but nobody bothered making him blow into one of those machines <shrugs shoulder>??

He got busted for that though, but after his time (a couple of months) in the county jail and his year probation was thru they expunged his record so he can still get his congressional retirement.

I say give the SOB the ticket just like they would any other citizen.
 
Originally posted by: Scribe
I think it shouldn't be the law. If you want to die in an accident then go ahead and don't wear it. Darwinism at its finest.

Health insurance is expensive enough. I'm all for a seatbelt law.
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: loki8481
seems like a safe bet that he learned his lesson 🙁

Hardly. Our last governor drove around the state speeding from place to place and got a bunch of tickets. After firing a few state troopers they left him alone. Then we elected him as our congressional representative and he was back in the state for some fund raiser or something?

Anyway he ran a stop sign (he had a history of doing that too) and killed a guy on a motorcycle. He also was rumored to have been drinking but nobody bothered making him blow into one of those machines <shrugs shoulder>??

He got busted for that though, but after his time (a couple of months) in the county jail and his year probation was thru they expunged his record so he can still get his congressional retirement.

what does any of that have to do with corzine, though? 😕

in any event, it's legal to not wear a seatbelt in the backseat (though obviously not a smart thing to do)
 
LOL, I don't know??

Are they going to let everyone who has an accident without their seatbelt on go unticketed because they "learned their lesson"?

I think if it's good for the goose, then it's good for the gander.
 
It's not so much the hypocrisy that gets me, but that NJ has a governor without the common sense of a three year-old.
 
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Are they going to let everyone who has an accident without their seatbelt on go unticketed because they "learned their lesson"?

if a person not wearing a seat belt got sent to the hospital in critical condition as a direct consequence of not wearing a seat belt, then yeah... I don't think that $50 ticket is going to do anything that the near death experience didn't do already.
 
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Are they going to let everyone who has an accident without their seatbelt on go unticketed because they "learned their lesson"?

if a person not wearing a seat belt got sent to the hospital in critical condition as a direct consequence of not wearing a seat belt, then yeah... I don't think that $50 ticket is going to do anything that the near death experience didn't do already.

Obviously he's suffered greatly, but that doesn't change the law and/or the fact he was breaking the law. Besides, I'm of the opinion that our "leaders" should be setting the examples, not be exempt from them.
 
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