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dighn

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Aug 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
This is a very sad day. :(

Fvck the RIAA & MPAA...fvck them hard!

to be fair can you really blame them for taking down a source of piracy?
 

Queasy

Moderator<br>Console Gaming
Aug 24, 2001
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Dang....tvtorrents.net is gone altogether. All that is there now is a promo site for the webhost. Glad I got all the Stargate Atlantis episodes I missed before they went down.
 

FleshLight

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Mar 18, 2004
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Oh boo hoo hoo.

You guys should either
a. Buy your stuff legally
b. Put more effort into getting your warez
c. Stop watching unlicensed hentai.
 

shopbruin

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Jul 12, 2000
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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Oh boo hoo hoo.

You guys should either
a. Buy your stuff legally
b. Put more effort into getting your warez
c. Stop watching unlicensed hentai.

i thought they only shut down sites that only distributed us made movies and tv shows?

*checks her korean drama website* nope still up.
 

Falloutboy

Diamond Member
Jan 2, 2003
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Originally posted by: Queasy
Dang....tvtorrents.net is gone altogether. All that is there now is a promo site for the webhost. Glad I got all the Stargate Atlantis episodes I missed before they went down.

btefnet
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: JackBurton
This is a very sad day. :(

Fvck the RIAA &amp; MPAA...fvck them hard!

to be fair can you really blame them for taking down a source of piracy?
There's nothing "fair" about the RIAA &amp; MPAA.

 

Falloutboy

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Jan 2, 2003
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: dighn
Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: desteffy
I guess filesharing is over forever!

Long live Usenet!!!!!!

usenet blows unless you pay for a server

I have an unlimited account with 20days retention, unlimited simultaneous connections from unlimited IPs (AKA ISP-outsourcing account). Kinda pricey, but I'm sharing it with - GASP - an entire [dialup/wireless] ISP. And about 20 other people who aren't paying customers at that ISP. And no, you can't have the login info.

It's kinda amusing, end of the month, we look up the stats for the account and there were like maybe 500mb between all 3000 dialup customers, 2 or 3 gigs between the wireless customers, and 30+ gigs on average to each of us who DON'T pay for it :p

It's the best service I've ever had.

thankfully my isp give a pretty decent free account. about 20ish days retention. and 150K per second. granted my line is good for 350K it would make a differnce since my ISP cuts you down to 125K per sec if you download more than 350mb in an hr. but even at 125K I can get my television shows pretty quick
 

Gatecrasher3

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bitmonsoon.com got big, and then got shut down. suprnova.org got big, and then got shut down. *******.com got big, and then got shut down.
the circle continues.
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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BT is too centralized. That combined with the fact that anybody who downloads is automatically distributing the same copyright material they're getting (because that's what 99% of BT traffic is) tells me that it's not the safest network to be using if you're a naughty boy.

In regards to Newgroups, yes right now they are the zenith of naughtyness. But, they are also centralized, and if they continue to grow and become even easier to use, then they'll be the next target for the MPAA/RIAA, and they make a _very_ easy target. They are just still under the radar now; few people, comparitively, use them. But given their "anonymous" nature and plethora of material they will surely be a target in coming times. Anonymous P2P will, of course, be hard to deal with, but it's not emerging very fast because it's still slow and a hassle.
 

DaWhim

Lifer
Feb 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: MrCodeDude
NewsGroups > IRC (two years ago) > IRC > BT > KaZaA, etc.

depends on your access level, if you got hooked up like I used to, FXP>*
you can't beat it when you just run a ftp server and have friends fxp the goodies to you. :D I miss those days. *sigh*
 

DaWhim

Lifer
Feb 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
BT is too centralized. That combined with the fact that anybody who downloads is automatically distributing the same copyright material they're getting (because that's what 99% of BT traffic is) tells me that it's not the safest network to be using if you're a naughty boy.

In regards to Newgroups, yes right now they are the zenith of naughtyness. But, they are also centralized, and if they continue to grow and become even easier to use, then they'll be the next target for the MPAA/RIAA, and they make a _very_ easy target. They are just still under the radar now; few people, comparitively, use them. But given their "anonymous" nature and plethora of material they will surely be a target in coming times. Anonymous P2P will, of course, be hard to deal with, but it's not emerging very fast because it's still slow and a hassle.

most people won't make the effort to learn how to use newsgroup.

for bt:
install the software
get torrent
:)

for ng:
binary? wth is that. you have to start from there.
get a software
set it up <--toughest one, esp if your isp doesn't give you binaries access
also, alot of stuffs maybe broken or incomplete from there.
learn about par files, etc.
also, you won't know where all the stuffs are without using an index.
finally, :)

newsgroup is good, only if you know how to use it.
 

dderidex

Platinum Member
Mar 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: FleshLight
Oh boo hoo hoo.

You guys should either
a. Buy your stuff legally
b. Put more effort into getting your warez
c. Stop watching unlicensed hentai.

a) You can buy "Enterprise" episodes? Where? 'Cause they ain't locally aired anywhere in my city (97702 zip), which means I can't get them on satellite, either. Suprnova was the only way I could find to reliably pick them up as they came out
b) Yeah, well, IRC really sucks unless you know where to look, and the servers keep moving so much you REALLY have to stay on top of it to know where. And the selection sucked.
c) :p
 

StageLeft

No Lifer
Sep 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: DaWhim
most people won't make the effort to learn how to use newsgroup.

for bt:
install the software
get torrent
:)

for ng:
binary? wth is that. you have to start from there.
get a software
set it up <--toughest one, esp if your isp doesn't give you binaries access
also, alot of stuffs maybe broken or incomplete from there.
learn about par files, etc.
also, you won't know where all the stuffs are without using an index.
finally, :)

newsgroup is good, only if you know how to use it.
Right, but it's definitely getting a lot easier. With sites that make the nzb files now too, it's entirely possible that somebody will make a client that basically looks like a list of files and you click them and then hours later you have it. Complexity is what's kept the dumb masses away from usenet so far, but the complexity is diminishing.

 

dighn

Lifer
Aug 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: DaWhim

for ng:
binary? wth is that. you have to start from there.
get a software
set it up <--toughest one, esp if your isp doesn't give you binaries access
also, alot of stuffs maybe broken or incomplete from there.
learn about par files, etc.
also, you won't know where all the stuffs are without using an index.
finally, :)

newsgroup is good, only if you know how to use it.

it's not the diffculty. it's just when your isp has a 3-day retention it is impossible to find what you want when you want it. while on some BT sites, a torrent can be alive for months.

paying for a better server kind of defeats the purpose
 

DaWhim

Lifer
Feb 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: dighn

it's not the diffculty. it's just when your isp has a 3-day retention it is impossible to find what you want when you want it. while on some BT sites, a torrent can be alive for months.

paying for a better server kind of defeats the purpose

it is the difficulty. can't you see how difficult it is to learn how to use BT than newsgroups? the retention is another difficulty that discourage people from using it.
 

dighn

Lifer
Aug 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: DaWhim
Originally posted by: dighn

it's not the diffculty. it's just when your isp has a 3-day retention it is impossible to find what you want when you want it. while on some BT sites, a torrent can be alive for months.

paying for a better server kind of defeats the purpose

it is the difficulty. can't you see how difficult it is to learn how to use BT than newsgroups? the retention is another difficulty that discourage people from using it.

you said "most people won't make the effort to learn how to use newsgroup."

the difficulty with the retention isn't one you can solved by just learning some things. you need to actually pay money for a good server. that puts it on a different level.