Supreme Court lifts federal ban on sports betting

dank69

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This law made no sense. Not sure what RBG and Sotomayor are thinking.
 

Zorba

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Another blow to Vegas. Good thing they have a shit ton of over priced clubs and restaurants now.
 

hal2kilo

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Wow. Must be a slow year at the supremes. I'm so glad people will find more ways to throw away their money. Seems like something that should be on the bottom of a priority list.
 

Sunburn74

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I think it's funny that Sportsbooks were taking odds on the outcome of this case.

Anyway overall I guess it's a good thing, though I have yet to get a good explanation of the thought process behind the ruling.
 

Indus

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Must nickel and dime the middle class and poor by using sports as a distraction!
 

GoodRevrnd

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I wonder if the majority opinion on this case strengthens state's/local municipalities case against enforcing immigration policy.

Five years after New York, the Court applied the same principles to a federal statute requiring state and local law enforcement officers to perform background checks and related tasks in connection with applications for handgun licenses. Printz, 521 U. S. 898. Holding this provision unconstitutional, the Court put the point succinctly: “The Federal Government” may not “command the States’ officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program.”Id., at 935. This rule applies, Printz held, not only to state officers with policymaking responsibility but also to those assigned more mundane tasks. Id., at 929–930
Third, the anticommandeering principle prevents Congress from shifting the costs of regulation to the States. If Congress enacts a law and requires enforcement by the Executive Branch, it must appropriate the funds needed to administer the program. It is pressured to weigh the expected benefits of the program against its costs. But if Congress can compel the States to enact and enforce its program, Congress need not engage in any such analysis. See, e.g., E. Young, Two Cheers for Process Federalism, 46 Vill. L. Rev. 1349, 1360–1361 (2001).
 

Moonbeam

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Gamboling depends on the fact that people are easily addicted to behavior that gives an occasional reward regardless of win loss considerations long term. It's just another way to make a profit on the manipulation of brain chemicals, no different, really, than selling drugs.
 

Noah Abrams

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Gamboling depends on the fact that people are easily addicted to behavior that gives an occasional reward regardless of win loss considerations long term. It's just another way to make a profit on the manipulation of brain chemicals, no different, really, than selling drugs.

You are intelligent enough to say that applies to most consumer products, right? This is how the economy keeps going....it can be said.
 
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Awesome, just in time now that video games are integrating literal gambling mechanisms as key components of gameplay.

And evangelicals will flip and be ok with it as they'll probably start enabling some lotto for their churches (isn't that what the Peter Popoff was basically already doing?).
 

ch33zw1z

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While I agree with the assertion that this feeds on brain chemicals, I disagree with gambling as a direct comparison to drugs. With drugs, you get the reward everytime, with gamlbing, it's the hope of the reward that stimulates the pleasure center.

This also differs from all consumer products(I can come up with) in the same way. When I buy something, I get that thing. When I gamble I dont necessarily walk away with anything.

All that said, in our supposed free country, gambling should not be illegal.
 
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Thebobo

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Awesome, just in time now that video games are integrating literal gambling mechanisms as key components of gameplay.

And evangelicals will flip and be ok with it as they'll probably start enabling some lotto for their churches (isn't that what the Peter Popoff was basically already doing?).

Yea i have a very christian friend and he is very opposed to gambling and halloween and easter eggs.....
I don't get it.
 

ch33zw1z

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Yea i have a very christian friend and he is very opposed to gambling and halloween and easter eggs.....
I don't get it.

What dont you get...

Gambling is a game of chance with money, corrupts the mind, and for many is an easy habit to form. Not to mention there's usually drugs, sex and rock n roll at some point. A vice is a vice. The love of money is the root of all evil, thou shalt have no other God's before me, etc...

Halloween, well that's the devil's holiday. My parents took me trick or treating once, then we're scolded by leaders in our church and we never went again.

Easter eggs, well, c'mon, is that what Easter is really about?
 
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Noah Abrams

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What dont you get...

Gambling is a game of chance with money, corrupts the mind, and for many is an easy habit to form. Not to mention there's usually drugs, sex and rock n roll at some point. A vice is a vice. The love of money is the root of all evil, thou shalt have no other God's before me, etc...

I can see the moral reasoning behind it. But I don't think the govt should disallow it.

I have never gambled a cent in my life - not even a lotto ticket. But that is just me, if others want to, why not...
 

ch33zw1z

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I can see the moral reasoning behind it. But I don't think the govt should disallow it.
I don't either. We shouldnt legislate morality in that way, it's historically a religious tenet. If and when, offer help for those who need it. And if they choose religion to battle their addiction, that's fine.
 
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I can see the moral reasoning behind it. But I don't think the govt should disallow it.

I have never gambled a cent in my life - not even a lotto ticket. But that is just me, if others want to, why not...

And the odd (perhaps not so odd) thing about all these lottery tickets is that the people who can least afford them seem to buy them the most...

Ah...that American dream....that ticket to heaven...
 

Moonbeam

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You are intelligent enough to say that applies to most consumer products, right? This is how the economy keeps going....it can be said.
I think that can indeed be said.

While I agree with the assertion that this feeds on brain chemicals, I disagree with gambling as a direct comparison to drugs. With drugs, you get the reward everytime, with gamlbing, it's the hope of the reward that stimulates the pleasure center.

This also differs from all consumer products(I can come up with) in the same way. When I buy something, I get that thing. When I gamble I dont necessarily walk away with anything.

All that said, in our supposed free country, gambling should not be illegal.

The comparison, I think, is the addiction to brain chemicals, not the identity of reward externally. You can wire monkey brains so they can push a button to stimulate pleasure and they will die of starvation rather than stopping to eat.
 
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This law made no sense. Not sure what RBG and Sotomayor are thinking.

Perhaps the fact that they are complete incompetent morons? The fact that they are both a joke of the supreme court?

Anyone who argues for shit like this might as well go back to days of prohibition. I don't know how you can advocate for people having a right to consume alcohol, but not a right to a bet with your own money... All the while, investing in the stock market (by definition)... is a FUCKING bet.

Seriously, supreme court nominees like those 2 fools are a joke to this nation.
 
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