Supreme court ends evection moratorium

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MrSquished

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You oppose free housing forever? Dude. Im going to have to submit your name to that short squinty eyed weirdo, Jimmy Kimmel. Hopefully he will shame you into submission.
When you donate to a member of the GQP fascist cult, do they automatically send you a special bag of crack that you smoke before you post gibberish?
 
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Yeah in the mild months here in PNW my natural gas bill is $20 and electric is $50.

Most of that is water heater for showers and electronics for work and entertainment. The fridge adds some, but it's a couple bucks month. It's a fractional percentage of rent costs.
 

Greenman

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I said this over a year ago, and it's just as obvious now as it was then.

$10,000 payment to every US citizen over 18 year old. It helps landlords. It helps tenants. It helps home owners. It helps minimum wage workers. It helps middle class workers. It helps upper class workers. It helps small business, it helps large business. It helps parents. It helps everyone.

All of this nonsense is simply a political problem that our intentionally dysfunctional government is unable to address in any meaningful way. To be clear 1/2 of elected officials in the Federal Government would oppose it because they're terrible people, while only 1/2 of Democrats would oppose it because they're terrible people. I'm sure a solid 1/4 of the Federal Government are relatively sane people.

Could have done this back in fucking April/May of 2020: STAY HOME TO SAVE LIVES! HERES MONEY! And maybe it could have put the US in better position then and now.

But here we are, trying to bandaid over a problem that had an easy-as-fuck solution over a year ago. Let's strap together a few more Rube Goldberg devices that are 10x more expensive than just handing out FREE MONEY, all so we can avoid having to show that evil "socialism" of giving people money in certain situations is the obvious best policy. Christ Almighty.
I'd guess at least half of the people that would actually need that money for rent would simply blow it.
Buddy of mine got hosed out of $30k in rent from a tenant that was unaffected by the lockdown. She simply decided to quit paying.
 

nickqt

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I'd guess at least half of the people that would actually need that money for rent would simply blow it.
Buddy of mine got hosed out of $30k in rent from a tenant that was unaffected by the lockdown. She simply decided to quit paying.
My horse's uncles friend found $8,000 in a corn silo and blew it on roach spray or whatever, so it probably wouldn't work.

You're the hero we need in these times.
 

nickqt

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We want free housing in America. This was just a social experiment to see if it would work.

Mark my words, this ruling is just a temporary setback.

You can bet Joe, Kamala, Nancy, lil Chuck and the worthless left wing media will make everyone who opposes free housing forever appear to be cold, heartless and cruel.

The late night Comedy talk shows will make fun of lawmakers, landlords, utility companies, etc, who wont simply eat the cost of housing people for free.

Yes, I am serious.

There will be a critical housing theory project that proposes just this very thing.
You're a clown and anyone who takes you seriously should lobotomize themselves for the good of humanity.

Thanks for stopping by, clown.
 

Greenman

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My horse's uncles friend found $8,000 in a corn silo and blew it on roach spray or whatever, so it probably wouldn't work.

You're the hero we need in these times.
That's actually a lot more accurate than you'll ever know.
 

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I'd guess at least half of the people that would actually need that money for rent would simply blow it.
Buddy of mine got hosed out of $30k in rent from a tenant that was unaffected by the lockdown. She simply decided to quit paying.

I'm on mobile and can't do a lot of digging, but there's pretty overwhelming evidence that poor people actually used the money to pay for food and utilities. There's similar studies that show many homeless spend money on food and water before anything else. But you can keep on clutching your Reagan era pearls.
 
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Electrical cost of refrigerator, microwave, toaster use in a day, cost of natural gas stove in a day.
My house is 2 story, 4 bedroom house. In the summer for electricity/water/sewer/trash /gas is around $600 per month while WFH. That is a drop in the bucket when considering studio cost around 2k.
 

nickqt

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That's actually a lot more accurate than you'll ever know.
In the made-up reality you've chosen to surround yourself in, because otherwise you'd have to realize just how fucking noxious your belief system is, that nonsense probably is accurate.
 
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brycejones

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I'd guess at least half of the people that would actually need that money for rent would simply blow it.
Buddy of mine got hosed out of $30k in rent from a tenant that was unaffected by the lockdown. She simply decided to quit paying.
There are legal avenues to get that money. Your friend should pursue them.
 

sportage

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And again, COVID vaccines play a big role where if the damn anti vaxxers would just get vaccinated then more businesses could reopen and start hiring thus the eviction moratorium wouldn’t be necessary. Frankly, every single problem the country is having with returning back to normal hinges on people that refuse to vaccinate. It’s all linked. One big massive huge f-ing republican link. I’d wager that a lot of the same landlords crying about non payment of rent are also the same people refusing to vaccinate. The stupidity runs rampant. There was a game children played called connect the dots, antivaxxers can’t even draw a straight line.
 
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FelixDeCat

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And again, COVID vaccines play a big role where if the damn anti vaxxers would just get vaccinated then more businesses could reopen and start hiring thus the eviction moratorium wouldn’t be necessary. Frankly, every single problem the country is having with returning back to normal hinges on people that refuse to vaccinate. It’s all linked. One big massive huge f-ing republican link. I’d wager that a lot of the same landlords crying about non payment of rent are also the same people refusing to vaccinate. The stupidity runs rampant. There was a game children played called connect the dots, antivaxxers can’t even draw a straight line.

I agree with you here. Almost 1/3 of the people I work with refused to get vaccinated - and one by one they are getting sick or know people that are sick. This is Darwinism in action. And dont bother telling them a damn thing. You will get yelled at.
 
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MrSquished

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End stage alcoholism doesn’t look good on you.
It's not alcohol. The GQP literally sends out a special kind of delusional crack everytime a regressive fascist cult member sends them a donation. Like a thank you for being insane, here's something to make you more insane.

Oh wait. It's not a drug. These people are just made this nuts.
 

Greenman

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I'm on mobile and can't do a lot of digging, but there's pretty overwhelming evidence that poor people actually used the money to pay for food and utilities. There's similar studies that show many homeless spend money on food and water before anything else. But you can keep on clutching your Reagan era pearls.
If your poor or homeless, what's the single most important thing in your life? That's why the signs the panhandlers hold don't say "will work for air conditioning" or "will work for designer jeans".

Clearly many would use the money wisely, just as clearly, many won't. That's why it wasn't handed out in large blocks.
 

Zorba

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It's as crazy as we think. We left my 11 year old home for 20 minutes this summer. Long enough for him to lock himself out of the house with no shoes on. He walks to the neighbors house to use the phone (200 ft from our house) and some lady stops to find out why he's all alone. He tells her that shes a stranger and won't talk to her. She calls the police, and they had to file a report and have DCF call us because of this. I pull up in the driveway while the police are filling out the paperwork.

When I was 11, in the same town, my parents hardly ever knew where I was during summer vaca.
Man, where the fuck do you live? Kids in my neighborhood are running around by themselves all the time. My five year would be walking to school herself if it weren't for the 200 cars sitting outside the walking gate. I've never heard of a kid being questioned why they were out by themselves.
 

Hail The Brain Slug

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While I'm sure there are landlords who haven't been able to receive relief money for unpaid rent, every single one I've seen being loud as fuck about "the injustice of people living in my property for free" have been admittedly mostly or fully paid via these relief programs for the also admittedly only one or few minority of their tenants that have not paid rent.
 

cytg111

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So this is primarily gonna hammer the unvaccinated maga land right?
Right?
 

ch33zw1z

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Man, where the fuck do you live? Kids in my neighborhood are running around by themselves all the time. My five year would be walking to school herself if it weren't for the 200 cars sitting outside the walking gate. I've never heard of a kid being questioned why they were out by themselves.

Rural western ma. We have our fair share of Karen's, often (ironically) the same people claiming that mask mandates tread on their freedom "my body my choice" shit. Well, I'm responsible for my son, eff off.

We used it as a nice learning lesson for my kid. I always are on my family to take their house keys with them, always. Even if it's just getting something out of the car. Also how to interact with the cops.

The kicker is that both the cops and DCF kept saying "there's no official age in MA to leave your kids at home, but we think 12 is ok"

The cops were actually pretty chill about it. The one cop who did all the talking was kinda annoyed by the situation, but not with me.
 
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And again, COVID vaccines play a big role where if the damn anti vaxxers would just get vaccinated then more businesses could reopen and start hiring thus the eviction moratorium wouldn’t be necessary. Frankly, every single problem the country is having with returning back to normal hinges on people that refuse to vaccinate. It’s all linked. One big massive huge f-ing republican link. I’d wager that a lot of the same landlords crying about non payment of rent are also the same people refusing to vaccinate. The stupidity runs rampant. There was a game children played called connect the dots, antivaxxers can’t even draw a straight line.
It's their self-fulfilling bitch fest. They have so little awareness of cause and effect:

Don't get vaccinated or wear a mask > virus mutates > forces mask mandates and hospitalizations > businesses close > economy goes south> bitch about closures and bad economy while coughing from covid.

I wish they would die off quietly and stop using hospitals beds or infecting those unable to get vaccinated. If it weren't for the impact of their dumbfuckery on other people, I would gladly watch them commit suicide through stupidity. Perhaps the next variant have a more immediate outcome with shorter gestation knocking the infected out before they can pass it along. Noone really goes near someone infected with ebola.
 
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hal2kilo

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There was plenty of money available, WTF?

‘Nobody is this incompetent’: Rental aid slowdown puts target on governors, mayors - POLITICO

Housing groups say officials have brushed off their calls to re-focus on the needs of the hardest–hit Americans and to streamline the application process for tapping into $46.5 billion in rental assistance approved by Congress since December. With many officials concerned about fraud and struggling to get the word out about the aid, the vast majority of the money has yet to reach tenants and their landlords — only 10 percent of the funds had been distributed as of the end of July.


“Nobody is this incompetent. Nobody,” said Andreanecia Morris, executive director of the affordable housing group HousingNOLA in Louisiana. “At the end of the day, this is systemic bias — this is anti-Black racism, anti-renter bias, anti-poor people bias. ... There isn’t any other explanation for this level of ineptitude.”
 
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Some cities have laws against living in a car that were in effect before the pandemic. I agree with some others who protested the laws that it's unfair in times of more homeless people back then. And now with covid D on the rise coupled with the SCOTUS ruling.

At least there are some guarded parking lots and other guarded areas in the country for sleeping in a car. In some cases that's against the law but how quickly the authorities react to it if at all can vary I suppose. Would be interesting to know how many conservatives here think or would venture to post that the authorities should swoop in on those parking lots where it's illegal before the end of the night and round up a bunch of people even the guards.

They are for the SCOTUS ruling so why fail to be consistent in a case like I just described of where the new homeless sleep in cars? It would apply outside CA and some other states that still have moratoriums against evictions which the SCOTUS ruling doesn't affect. It's just states that don't have or have lifted the moratoriums where evictions can now take place. But everyone knows that already, just trying to be clear about it as far as the possibility of a big increase in areas for people to sleep in their cars.

edit - relax, I know conservatives will say the authorities will give advanced notice and warnings for weeks maybe even months before taking action. But if the homeless living in their cars refuse to leave at the end of the grace period? Those scenes would make national headlines if hundreds of thousands wind up in that position as a result of the Supreme Court ruling.
 
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