Supreme court ends evection moratorium

[Greenman]

Supreme Court ends federal eviction moratorium

The Supreme Court on Thursday night struck down a federal eviction moratorium that was recently extended by President Joe Biden’s administration without congressional support.

nypost.com

I hate to see anyone evicted, but I also hate to see someone financially destroyed by a rule that wasn't properly instituted. The landlords deserved as much protection as the tenants.

 

[brycejones]

nypost, LOL.

 

[fskimospy]

Supreme Court ends federal eviction moratorium

The Supreme Court on Thursday night struck down a federal eviction moratorium that was recently extended by President Joe Biden’s administration without congressional support.

nypost.com

I hate to see anyone evicted, but I also hate to see someone financially destroyed by a rule that wasn't properly instituted. The landlords deserved as much protection as the tenants.

Eviction moratoriums of all kinds were always stupid, except for the first few months of the pandemic where federal aid programs had to be set up. The right answer was always to just give people money and then have them pay their rent or be evicted as normal.

That being said, SCOTUS is embarrassing itself this term with their sudden about face on executive power. The same eviction moratorium Trump had in place for nearly a year was fine by them. All the more reason to pack the court to get them back under control.

 

[ElFenix]

Supreme Court ends federal eviction moratorium

The Supreme Court on Thursday night struck down a federal eviction moratorium that was recently extended by President Joe Biden’s administration without congressional support.

nypost.com

I hate to see anyone evicted, but I also hate to see someone financially destroyed by a rule that wasn't properly instituted. The landlords deserved as much protection as the tenants.

there was also a shit ton of money available that no one bothered to take advantage of

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Supreme Court ends federal eviction moratorium

The Supreme Court on Thursday night struck down a federal eviction moratorium that was recently extended by President Joe Biden’s administration without congressional support.

nypost.com

I hate to see anyone evicted, but I also hate to see someone financially destroyed by a rule that wasn't properly instituted. The landlords deserved as much protection as the tenants.

yeah tough call all around. Landlords typically need that payment because it is their retirement money or mortgage payment money. Renters being evicted sucks too.

 

[Brainonska511]

there was also a shit ton of money available that no one bothered to take advantage of

The money has been allocated, but states are being extremely slow at getting it disbursed.

 

[fskimospy]

yeah tough call all around. Landlords typically need that payment because it is their retirement money or mortgage payment money. Renters being evicted sucks too.

And while people think landlords are these big rich companies or whatever most rentals are owned by people who own only one or just a few. In many cases they can be easily financially ruined by having to keep paying mortgage on a property they collect no rent from.

 

[Jaskalas]

The landlords deserved as much protection as the tenants.

I do not agree.

In terms of human rights, when forced to choose between one or the other, the preference should always be in favor of keeping roofs over heads. To not contribute to homelessness.

If we had implemented UBI, with a Federal Housing program, not a single person would need to face an eviction for financial reasons. For us to continue to suffer such things is a choice this nation makes, and it is the wrong choice.

 

[Ken g6]

Does that mean we can now evict the conservative justices?

 

[fskimospy]

I do not agree.

In terms of human rights, when forced to choose between one or the other, the preference should always be in favor of keeping roofs over heads. To not contribute to homelessness.

If we had implemented UBI, with a Federal Housing program, not a single person would need to face an eviction for financial reasons. For us to continue to suffer such things is a choice this nation makes, and it is the wrong choice.

I agree that keeping people housed is the most important thing, but I think choosing to financially ruin people to do it is a bad policy choice. The right answer was something akin to what you're saying here, a UBI.

The renters should be given money to pay their rent. We shouldn't say 'you don't have to pay your rent', because that just moves the crisis one person upstream.

 

[weblooker2021]

Between unemployment payments from state/feds, stimulus checks, there should been enough money for everyone to pay their rent. Plus plenty of business are now hiring. There is absolutely no excuse why someone coudn't pay their rent all of this time.

 

[dank69]

Between unemployment payments from state/feds, stimulus checks, there should been enough money for everyone to pay their rent. Plus plenty of business are now hiring. There is absolutely no excuse why someone coudn't pay their rent all of this time.

Oh look, someone who doesn't have young kids.

 

[weblooker2021]

Oh look, someone who doesn't have young kids.

If parents stay at home with their kids, i will assume they probably saved lots of money on daycare. Again what kept them from being able to pay the rent?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

If parents stay at home with their kids, i will assume they probably saved lots of money on daycare. Again what kept them from being able to pay the rent?

What daycare do you think a parent pays for their child to be in school all day? And how much more are they losing in income than they are saving in daycare When they have to stay at home? And what daycare do you think was taking in the glut of children not attending school suddenly?

 

[vi edit]

Low income families aren't using daycare. They are relying on family/older kids to help or work an opposite shift of a spouse so that they can split parenting duties. They are also relying on schools to watch over their kids for a good part of the day. Schools weren't open much of the last 18 months in many parts of the country. Getting kids back in school definitely helps these groups.

 

[fskimospy]

If parents stay at home with their kids, i will assume they probably saved lots of money on daycare. Again what kept them from being able to pay the rent?

To be clear, you think kids from age 6 to 18 attend day care?

 

[Jhhnn]

And while people think landlords are these big rich companies or whatever most rentals are owned by people who own only one or just a few. In many cases they can be easily financially ruined by having to keep paying mortgage on a property they collect no rent from.

It depends on equity. It's easy enough to go to a lender & extract equity when facing adversity.

 

[weblooker2021]

To be clear, you think kids from age 6 to 18 attend day care?

I came home from school at age of 7 and stayed half a day home alone until parents came home. Kids from age 1-6 do attend daycare or they stay with their grandparents/nanny.

 

[ElFenix]

who the fuck has a nanny?

 

[fskimospy]

I came home from school at age of 7 and stayed half a day home alone until parents came home. Kids from age 1-6 do attend daycare or they stay with their grandparents/nanny.

If you didn't have school would your parents have just left you there alone all day?

 

[Dave_5k]

who the fuck has a nanny?

It's all the rage amongst peeps that aren't paying rent and are now facing eviction...

 

[dank69]

It's all the rage amongst peeps that aren't paying rent and are now facing eviction...

That guy is just extraordinarily dumb.

 

[brycejones]

If parents stay at home with their kids, i will assume they probably saved lots of money on daycare. Again what kept them from being able to pay the rent?

You have much to learn about the world.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

who the fuck has a nanny?

I had several in my early 20s assuming we count Au Pairs.

 

[Stokely]

Not to mention, some jobs barely cover living expenses (if they do), and shit happens (cars break, medical expenses etc).

That said I'm a landlord so I see both sides of this. We have had our share of obvious deadbeats (hmm, you want a few extra days to pay the rent--again--while I see you have new rims there on your ride...) and people that break rules. Being a landlord is really hard work and you'd better be prepared to deal with nightmare tenants, including taking them to court. Most are great tenants, but it doesn't take many of the others to make life hell. This is why, I believe, you'll see good places for sale and you think "if this place is making money, why is it for sale?"...it's because people burn out, or were not cut out for it. I'm not, my wife is the tough person We upgrade our properties with decent stuff--because the less stuff that breaks, that's good for us as we don't have to rush over to fix it.


There's obviously the "slumlord" type landlords out there. For us, it's a retirement investment for the long haul, so if tenants are allowed to perpetually stay for free...we are fucked. And I know for certain that there will be people gaming this. Is it healthy for the economy, or morally right, to put people like us out of business? I'd say no just as it's not good to throw people on the street. This is the type of situation I'd want government to step in and help, but the help has to make sense for all involved.