Supernatural mouse problems with Computer.

[DLRMononokE2]

I'm not completely computer literate but I know the basic steps to deal with problems involving hardware/driver complications. I began having problems with mouses years ago and I have no idea what the problem is. I've searched, studied and tried to reduce the outcomes but have came up blank every time. I've purchased four different mice over the past two years and the problem is the same with each.

The problem seems to deal with sensitivity. Whatever mouse I use on any computer will continuously change it's sensitivity and over the course of time eventually a 2000 DPI mouse will run like a 400 DPI mouse on the highest settings possible. Not only that but the sensitivity of the mouse will continuously change. When active on the computer whatever sensitivity it was at will remain the same, however, if I go idle or restart the sensitivity and over all feeling of the mouse changes. The mouse will always eventually reduce to such a level of inferior speed, and "smoothness" that a mouse with specs of high dpi will essentially be reduced to a very very slow mouse. There is nothing at this point that can change this "sensitivity" supernatural dilemma.

Here are the steps I've taken in dealing with this issue.

I've reformatted and reinstalled drivers. ( nothing )
reinstalled drivers ( nothing )
Updated firmware multiple times on the two copperheads I owned ( nothing, temporary fix and eventually the mouse is completely ruined. aka firmware updating does nothing )
Tested the mice on multiple computers. ( Another desktop + a laptop ) ( nothing )

In the end I've reduced the possible outcomes to two things. First of all there no way in hell I bought four faulty mouses.. that's not the issue because out of package the mice run fine for a short run. I believe something regarding bad usb ports may be the issue or it's just a supernatural curse God has bestowed upon me in order to get me to quit playing video games. ( ever try to play RTS or 1st person shooters with a fed up mouse? )

 

[somethingsketchy]

What brand names of USB mice have you used during the years? Were these mice wireless or wired? Did you buy a good brand name (Logitech for example) or a cheapo mouse? A gaming mouse or a general use mouse?

Sounds like something with the build quality could be an issue, although gaming mice (as far as I'm aware of) do not have this kind of issue short of you physically breaking the mouse. The gaming mouse I have used for the last three years (1st generation Logitech G5) has worked flawlessly and I never had an issue of it changing sensitive.

 

[lxskllr]

I've never had a mouse go bad like that. I really have no idea. I don't like the idea of USB ports, because you say you hook up a new mouse, and it works fine. A bad USB port would be bad for all mice :^/

 

[corkyg]

lxskllr brings up a valid point. Since this seems to happen over time to different devices, that would suggest something is not steady in the USB port. This is not unusual for on-board USB ports. You might try connecting a powered USB hub to the machine, and then connect the mouse to the hub. A powered hub usually will provide steadier power that meets the USB spec (5 vdc @ 500 ma), and it in turn draws no power from the system.

 

[DLRMononokE2]

The problem though is that how does a bad USB port internally damage the mouse so that it doesn't work on other computers "normally" the mice I've used are all gaming mouses. Logitech g3, two copperheads, and now a salmosa. I'm not sure if FLASHING the firmware on my copperhead damaged my usb ports. Is this a possibility? Would flashing the firmware too many times cause such instability enough to internally damage mice I use? This is why I call this a supernatural problem. I don't think anyone here will be able to help me with this honestly. This is probably something so technical It would take a literal expert to figure out the problem. The only thing for me is it's very stressing. I can't think of what the problem could be and I've lost hundreds of dollars for probably nothing.

The computer is a HP pavilion 4200+ dual core I've had it for years.

One thing I thought of was building a new CPU but I can't do that currently.

Is there a program, a device anything that can test my USB ports and see if they're damaged or something is wrong? I also tried different operating systems and nothing.

If you can't imagine try imagining how stressful this is. Most people probably think i'm crazy or something but this is a very serious and real issue. I really don't know what to do. Anyone have any suggestions on who could help?

 

[lxskllr]

So, you take a mouse that doesn't work on your machine, hook it up to another, and it still doesn't work, right? If so, the *only* thing I can think of, is your USB port is overvolting the mouse. I've never heard of this happening, and I don't know what the consequences are, but maybe the LED/Laser is getting burned out, and is less sensitive :^/

Edit:
I guess I just said the same thing as corkyg :^D

I've never had issues with USB ports though. Do flash drives get killed on your system?

 

[DLRMononokE2]

If this was the case the mouse would stop working. The mouse still works but it doesn't function as a "gaming" mouse should. It is noticeable too. It's not like I'm paranoid. The mouse is SIGNIFICANTLY slower. Not only that but it still changes speeds.

It's like this. You have a 2000 dpi mouse then it starts changing sensitivity on it's own but it's still a 2000 dpi mouse with lower sens eventually you end up a ridiculously slow mouse that changes sensitivity but the DPI doesn't change only the speed.

Anyway I wasn't expecting anyone to figure out the answer. It just seems too complicated. I figured letting people that restarting causes it to change and or going idle changes sensitivity would have got attention from someone but apparently not. Seems i'm hopeless.

 

[0roo0roo]

something along the way that you install breaks it.

you just have to eliminate the possibilities one by one with fresh image or windows installs.

or its your hardware.

i'm sure these mice work fine on other pcs

 

[DLRMononokE2]

"lxskllr brings up a valid point. Since this seems to happen over time to different devices, that would suggest something is not steady in the USB port. This is not unusual for on-board USB ports. You might try connecting a powered USB hub to the machine, and then connect the mouse to the hub. A powered hub usually will provide steadier power that meets the USB spec (5 vdc @ 500 ma), and it in turn draws no power from the system.

I have a Salmosa and used it out of the box directly on my laptop. This would mean both usb ports on laptop and desktop are corrupt? Odds are low I hardly used this laptop ,ever. It's a old laptop but why would that matter? The fact is the mouse works out of the box but upon going idling or restarting the speed, or dpi internally somehow changes. It makes no sense. It's the most retarded technical problem I've ever had but it's as real as anything. Don't know what to do."

I've been gaming for over 10 years. I know how fast a mouse moves the difference in dpi and I know when something isn't right. The significant difference in sensitivity is impossible for me to ignore. Not only does it get slower but the smoothness "fades" such as "lower" dpi increments being set "supernaturally" without me changing anything. All of my sensitivty settings are maxed. Therefor the salmosa at maxed settings, well you can google it. It should run like that ALL the time. Idling or restarting changes the speed. Theres no consistency either. It could become "fast" again upon restarting but it's temporary. Idling will make it slower again, and eventually a restart will change it again.

It's a curse by God I swear unless someone proves me wrong or has a solution I have to resort to that. Sad but what else do I got?

 

[DLRMononokE2]

"something along the way that you install breaks it.

you just have to eliminate the possibilities one by one with fresh image or windows installs.

or its your hardware.

i'm sure these mice work fine on other pcs "

I've tried new wnidow installations. Nothing. I've done nothing upon installing it that would cause it to break.

I've tested on different PCs and nothing.

Whatever damage is done to the mouse is done internally. It doesn't function as it should on any computer.

It's not any tech support from logitech or razer would do me any good though so I thought i'd post here but apparently this is probably too technical for most people.

 

[corkyg]

Originally posted by: DLRMononokE2
I have a Salmosa and used it out of the box directly on my laptop. This would mean both usb ports on laptop and desktop are corrupt? Odds are low I hardly used this laptop ,ever. It's a old laptop but why would that matter? The fact is the mouse works out of the box but upon going idling or restarting the speed, or dpi internally somehow changes. It makes no sense. It's the most retarded technical problem I've ever had but it's as real as anything. Don't know what to do

An old laptop? Are you sure it is USB 2? Was it on battery power or A/C (that makes a big difference!)

Salmosa? Hmmm . . ."Razer has been around for quite a while now and most people probably know them for their high end gaming peripherals. The company has released various keyboards and input devices, both for gamers and Apple users. The Salmosa is intended as an entry level gaming mouse at a lower price point.

 

[Zap]

If all the oddly functioning mice are the same exact model, then perhaps try a different model?

Also, have you tried a different mouse pad? If it is an older worn cloth pad, it might snag the DPI switch on the bottom of the Salmosa mouse. If it is an older worn hard pad, it might have some areas polished from use that reflect differently.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: DLRMononokE2
"something along the way that you install breaks it.

you just have to eliminate the possibilities one by one with fresh image or windows installs.

or its your hardware.

i'm sure these mice work fine on other pcs "

I've tried new wnidow installations. Nothing. I've done nothing upon installing it that would cause it to break.

I've tested on different PCs and nothing.

Whatever damage is done to the mouse is done internally. It doesn't function as it should on any computer.

It's not any tech support from logitech or razer would do me any good though so I thought i'd post here but apparently this is probably too technical for most people.

no, if the usb ports were damaging mice, they'd simply fail to work. damaged mice do not switch dpi. the fault must be with your hardware or something along the way you install during your reinstalls. it is basically impossible that the mice are the problem. as for hardware you can always use a usb pcmcia card. have my doubts. possibly your touchpad driver is messing with settings as well. its probably software

 

[DLRMononokE2]

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An old laptop? Are you sure it is USB 2? Was it on battery power or A/C (that makes a big difference!)

Salmosa? Hmmm . . ."Razer has been around for quite a while now and most people probably know them for their high end gaming peripherals. The company has released various keyboards and input devices, both for gamers and Apple users. The Salmosa is intended as an entry level gaming mouse at a lower price point.
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Yes, but the copperhead was used twice.. and the same problem. Just because it's an entry level gaming mouse does not mean it should not run consistently. This problem is obviously above the mouse itsself. Yes it's USB 2 It's not that old It's a celeron on XP don't have specs atm would have to start it i'll give them in a sec but the point is this happens on three different computers. I also am running on a/c I don't think this is a power issue.

"If all the oddly functioning mice are the same exact model, then perhaps try a different model?

Also, have you tried a different mouse pad? If it is an older worn cloth pad, it might snag the DPI switch on the bottom of the Salmosa mouse. If it is an older worn hard pad, it might have some areas polished from use that reflect differently.
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No, it's above the mouse pad. This problem is a technical issue. I have no idea what it is. The increment of change in mouse movement is much too high to be a mouse pad problem. There is no erratic movement either. It's simply slower and unsmooth.

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no, if the usb ports were damaging mice, they'd simply fail to work. damaged mice do not switch dpi. the fault must be with your hardware or something along the way you install during your reinstalls. it is basically impossible that the mice are the problem. as for hardware you can always use a usb pcmcia card. have my doubts. possibly your touchpad driver is messing with settings as well. its probably software"

What will a USB PCMCIA card do? I think the best thing is to show you VIA video. Is that possible? I'll look for an online recorder and try to post a video. I'll show you drivers installed and all the settings and then move the mouse as fast as I can. You will see the problem very easy. How do you assess a damaged mouse due to USB faulting? You have to remember I flashed Copperhead several times. Did this kill my USB ports? Touchpad is disabled.

 

[vshah]

maybe there is a virus or malware that is altering settings without your knowing it? that might explain why a restart temporarily solves it. if your computers are networked, they may all be infected.