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Superbowl LVI (56 for those arent Roman) thread, 2/13/22

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Overall, a boring and underwhelming game between two slightly above average teams, with the two big offensive plays by both teams enabled by poor officiating. Even the half time show and commercials were disappointing. The Buffalo v Kansas City game was a better superbowl game.
 
I think this evidence really pushes this Super Bowl into a sham level. Bengals got robbed.
Did they? Some would say the Raiders got robbed against the Bengals due to bad officiating and the Bengals never should've been there. I remember the Saints getting screwed 2 years in a row by the officials.
 
Overall, a boring and underwhelming game between two slightly above average teams, with the two big offensive plays by both teams enabled by poor officiating. Even the half time show and commercials were disappointing. The Buffalo v Kansas City game was a better superbowl game.

Thanks for the summary, I didn’t watch.
 
Not sure what the progression was, but Burrow missed Uzomah on that last play. It's actually really amazing he even got it off close to Perine while being spun around and down. And at least one soft holding calls could have been called while the play was still on. Boyd was grabbed.

Looks like Burrow was going to Higgins but pulled the ball back down was Higgins was covered.

The concept was also kind of lacking because Uzomah's defender went right into Higgins' window; a play in the first quarter also had the same thing happen. Could have had Boyd run a quick slant in instead of going as far as he did.

Huge cushion by the Rams corner at the top of the screen as well.

Given that Burrow is still a second year player, it is likely some things are still fast for him. But with a couple more years of experience and study, there is very little doubt he'll be able to make the play in the heat of the moment and get it to the right guy. Taylor also needs to improve as a playcaller and play designer.
Burrow could be one of, if not the best, if his knee holds up. At least the knee he hurt in the SB was not the repaired one. When I first saw his face when he was on the ground, I thought "oh no, another ACL". Cant believe he came back from that, but have to wonder if it hindered him the rest of the game.
 
Bad calls in playoffs?
Think the penalties kind of cancelled out in this game. Bengals fans are (rightly) upset about the missed off sides on the Rams on the same play that the Bengals got called for holding. However, the Bengals got away with one on that long TD that should have been offensive PI.

I am a Brady/Bucs fan, admittedly, but the Bucs got called for 3 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties vs the Rams in the divisional round, 2 of which were pretty ticky/tacky. I can understand the call on Brady, but obviously they missed a hit to his head, since his lip was bleeding.
 
Burrow could be one of, if not the best, if his knee holds up. At least the knee he hurt in the SB was not the repaired one. When I first saw his face when he was on the ground, I thought "oh no, another ACL". Cant believe he came back from that, but have to wonder if it hindered him the rest of the game.
It probably turned him into a statue. Boyd's drop was the turning point. Perfect strike but Boyd took his eye off of the ball.

The playcalling did go to shit which led to the injury; Taylor got too comfy thinking he could pass it. And not using Mixon on that 3rd and 1 and then 4th and 1. I get Perine is the third down back but he's nothing special.
 
Overall, a boring and underwhelming game between two slightly above average teams, with the two big offensive plays by both teams enabled by poor officiating. Even the half time show and commercials were disappointing. The Buffalo v Kansas City game was a better superbowl game.
Didnt watch the halftime show, but I have to agree about the game. Rams are probably the best balanced overall of a relatively weak NFC, but I have to think the Chiefs or Bills, with their mobile QBs would have had a better chance against them.
 
A very good throw, but by no means "no look". Appears to me he was looking right at him.
Maybe I am missing something, because I have to admit I dont really like Stafford.
The action led the zone linebacker a couple steps towards the tight end, suggesting that Stafford was staring at his TE when cocking his arm, which then opened up the window to Kupp.
 
Based on the comments here I have to say that while the officials were by no means perfect in this game it was still called better/more accurately than MANY of the big games I've seen in the past.

Compared to some of the straight-up "fix is in" level calls I've seen go in favor of the Patriots and the Steelers especially in playoff games this was nothing.

None of yesterdays "blown calls" directly decided the outcome.

Sorry to all the genuine non-bandwagon-hopping Bengals fans though.... losing in the big game is no fun at all. (I recall how 2000 felt clearly)



Didnt watch the halftime show, but I have to agree about the game. Rams are probably the best balanced overall of a relatively weak NFC, but I have to think the Chiefs or Bills, with their mobile QBs would have had a better chance against them.


The Bengals were better then I thought they were but if Mahomes and the Chiefs didn't have a terrible habit of taking their foot off the throttle and "coasting" combined with some real "head-scratcher" play calls on offense Cinn never would have been in the SB in the first place.

KC makes the proper move and kicks a FG at the end of the first half of the AFC title game, the Bengals almost certainly end up going home.
 
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I'm curious how many millions of new online sports betters got screwed like I did when the Rams didn't make the point spread 🙂
 
Would be funny if the Rams blow themselves up through retirement.
I am reminded just how unlikeable they are and they lose so many years. Oh, and that Pete Kendall fumble way back when they were in St. Louis.

The Bengals basically did what their AFC opponents did to them and gave the Rams quite a few extra lifelines.

The NFC really looks like it will suck next year, with entire divisions lacking good teams. NFC North will no longer have Aaron Rodgers. NFC South sucks. Dallas is the best team in the East, and they have abad coach. So the next Super Bowl will still likely come down to an NFC West team against the AFC.
 
Would be funny if the Rams blow themselves up through retirement.
I am reminded just how unlikeable they are and they lose so many years. Oh, and that Pete Kendall fumble way back when they were in St. Louis.

The Bengals basically did what their AFC opponents did to them and gave the Rams quite a few extra lifelines.

The NFC really looks like it will suck next year, with entire divisions lacking good teams. NFC North will no longer have Aaron Rodgers. NFC South sucks. Dallas is the best team in the East, and they have abad coach. So the next Super Bowl will still likely come down to an NFC West team against the AFC.
I am a Vikings fan, and I hope Rogers retires or gets traded, but my bet is he is just a drama queen and ultimately will return to the Packers.
I agree though, AFC is definitely stronger than the NFC. Leaving Rogers out (and assuming Brady stays "retired"), I would say Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, maybe Jackson are all better QBs than anybody left in the NFC.
 
I am a Vikings fan, and I hope Rogers retires or gets traded, but my bet is he is just a drama queen and ultimately will return to the Packers.
I agree though, AFC is definitely stronger than the NFC. Leaving Rogers out (and assuming Brady stays "retired"), I would say Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Herbert, maybe Jackson are all better QBs than anybody left in the NFC.
Business environment dictates Rodgers is out. Rookie QBs are basically an arranged marriage with a consummation deadline. They need to start posting stats and film ASAP so both management and player can have hard data to negotiate the next contract, or to first determine if the player even deserves the next contract.
Plus, the owners probably do not want to give the players union meat during the next CBA agreement that they “shafted” a QB’s earning potential by burying him for an incumbent vet.

The history clearly indicates that the rookie will be handed the throne. Dak took Romo’s job after Romo got injured. But after Romo got healthy, Romo never got the job back and he then retired, costing the Cowboys dead cap.
Alex Smith was out after one last season in KC.
Herbert kept the job after Taylor’s injury.
Tua was given the reins after 8 weeks.
Trubisky got the job quick as well.

Packers put themselves in this bind.
 
Business environment dictates Rodgers is out. Rookie QBs are basically an arranged marriage with a consummation deadline. They need to start posting stats and film ASAP so both management and player can have hard data to negotiate the next contract, or to first determine if the player even deserves the next contract.
Plus, the owners probably do not want to give the players union meat during the next CBA agreement that they “shafted” a QB’s earning potential by burying him for an incumbent vet.

The history clearly indicates that the rookie will be handed the throne. Dak took Romo’s job after Romo got injured. But after Romo got healthy, Romo never got the job back and he then retired, costing the Cowboys dead cap.
Alex Smith was out after one last season in KC.
Herbert kept the job after Taylor’s injury.
Tua was given the reins after 8 weeks.
Trubisky got the job quick as well.

Packers put themselves in this bind.
I acknowledge you point, but none of those quarterbacks who were replaced are even close to Rogers in skill level. The Packers have already said they are willing to give Rogers the highest salary ever if he is willing to come back. (not absolutely sure how reliable that statement is).

Both sides deserve blame IMO. Let face it, when the Pats drafted Jimmy G, Brady just used it as a motivation to play harder, not throw a hissy fit.
 
I acknowledge you point, but none of those quarterbacks who were replaced are even close to Rogers in skill level. The Packers have already said they are willing to give Rogers the highest salary ever if he is willing to come back. (not absolutely sure how reliable that statement is).

Both sides deserve blame IMO. Let face it, when the Pats drafted Jimmy G, Brady just used it as a motivation to play harder, not throw a hissy fit.
Brady was an exception, but even that required outright owner intervention to stop Belichick and there was probably plenty of salt in that room afterwards. So, Rodgers could stay, but it's still very much an uneasy relationship.
I wouldn't say that Rodgers didn't play "harder" after the drafting of Love. Just that even with MVP-level regular seasons, his team simply could not advance.

Should Rodgers have made better decisions? Probably. He could have scrambled for a TD in the last NFC conference game and maybe should have not tried to test Josh Norman near the end of the San Francisco game. But, drafting Love did indeed leave talent on the board, and not just one choice.

Tee Higgins is definitely a good player and would have definitely added a dynamic to the GB passing game. Mahomes operates with Kelce and Hill. Stafford had Odell and Kupp. Packers have Adams and then there's a drop off.
Michael Pittman Jr. has showed promise.
Claypool, taken further down in the second round also seems to be a good receiver.

There were also RBs. D'Andre Swift, Johnathan Taylor. Even Cole Kmet has shown a little something. Aaron Jones is a good back, but if it was Swift or Taylor catching that pass in the divisional, it's a house call instead of a big gain and then a blocked FG.

Now, given that the NFC could weaken further if the Rams decide to go forward with retire-gate, Rodgers might make a business decision and stay. But he still has leverage because Hackett is waiting for him in Denver, and they have an up-and-coming D.
 
I acknowledge you point, but none of those quarterbacks who were replaced are even close to Rogers in skill level. The Packers have already said they are willing to give Rogers the highest salary ever if he is willing to come back. (not absolutely sure how reliable that statement is).

Both sides deserve blame IMO. Let face it, when the Pats drafted Jimmy G, Brady just used it as a motivation to play harder, not throw a hissy fit.
The guy with a torn mind doesn't know what he's talking about. The Packers drafted Jordan Love eyeing a succession plan, but that plan isn't written into stone. There is some tape on Love now, and it wasn't very pretty. It's not enough to justify replacing the 38-year-old MVP with a very raw project. If Rodgers chooses to stay, they can just trade Jordan Love but they wouldn't get much for him.

The main problem for the Packers is their cap situation is very ugly; they are currently well over the cap and it's unclear how they could re-sign Davante Adams. Rodgers has no interest in returning without his stud WR. The Packers are saying they will do all kinds of cap gymnastics to reload the roster, but this usually doesn't work well. The Saints are kind of the benchmark for being in salary cap hell for the previous decade (soon after they won a SB). And although they remained a contender, that's not a recipe for getting back to the summit.

If Rodgers wants the highest salary ever and the Packers agree, that just makes the salary cap problem worse going forward.
 
The guy with a torn mind doesn't know what he's talking about. The Packers drafted Jordan Love eyeing a succession plan, but that plan isn't written into stone. There is some tape on Love now, and it wasn't very pretty. It's not enough to justify replacing the 38-year-old MVP with a very raw project. If Rodgers chooses to stay, they can just trade Jordan Love but they wouldn't get much for him.

The main problem for the Packers is their cap situation is very ugly; they are currently well over the cap and it's unclear how they could re-sign Davante Adams. Rodgers has no interest in returning without his stud WR. The Packers are saying they will do all kinds of cap gymnastics to reload the roster, but this usually doesn't work well. The Saints are kind of the benchmark for being in salary cap hell for the previous decade (soon after they won a SB). And although they remained a contender, that's not a recipe for getting back to the summit.

If Rodgers wants the highest salary ever and the Packers agree, that just makes the salary cap problem worse going forward.
Pretty much every team with a successor usually follows through with replacing the incumbent. The only exception was Garappolo, which required ownership intervention. And perhaps the Packers saw this cap hell coming and that’s why Love was drafted. Rodgers would be gone after this year and the new guy would take his spot. What wasn’t planned was Rodgers maintaining his play level and Love looking lost.
 
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