Summer movie box office sales down 20%

[zinfamous]

I've heard the expression timeless but that doesn't mean the expression means that newer films cannot also be timeless. I do enjoy most films that are considered to be classics. But what is annoying to me is that some (many? most?) film snobs tend to think that no films made in the last x number of years can possibly hold a candle to films made in the past. That in my opinion is simply a sad perspective.

I don't think that's true, at all. You would certianly call me a film snob, and here I have been arguing pretty steadily about how there certainly is no dearth of very good films being produced these days, many of them holding up next to, or above, those well-worn classics.

 

[KeithTalent]

There are tonnes of great films from recent years, heck last year I had trouble trying to whittle down to a top 10. People complaining about the quality of films out these days are just not seeing enough films.

KT

 

[Anubis]

There are tonnes of great films from recent years, heck last year I had trouble trying to whittle down to a top 10. People complaining about the quality of films out these days are just not seeing enough films.

KT

I agree

however IMO high quality cinematography has almost died in recent movies. very few do it well, its all shaky cam and quick cuts with tons of CGI

 

[squarecut1]

There are tonnes of great films from recent years, heck last year I had trouble trying to whittle down to a top 10. People complaining about the quality of films out these days are just not seeing enough films.

KT

I guess that is true for me. I don't watch anywhere close to the number of movies I used to. Let us know about your top 10 for last year

 

[Feneant2]

I wonder what the cut of a movie ticket to a studio is from each theatre showing the movie? They should phase out theatres completely and just release movies on demand immediately so we can watch the movie in the comfort of home without having to go in a theatre.

My _best_ experience in the past few years was when these 4 teenage boys behind my buddy and I were passing around a cup, snorting and spitting in it. Seriously, I paid 20$ to see a movie and that's what I get?

Stupid first western world problem is studios think they NEED someone like Brad Pitt to sell a movie. you know what, fuck that. You can get a guy who works for 95% LESS salary who will do as good of a job. I don't know about the rest of you but not once in my life have I seen a movie based on the cast, I go based on the story.

 

[zinfamous]

Bottom line. The best days of Hollywood are firmly behind it

the evidence contradicts this statement.

 

[zinfamous]

I wonder what the cut of a movie ticket to a studio is from each theatre showing the movie? They should phase out theatres completely and just release movies on demand immediately so we can watch the movie in the comfort of home without having to go in a theatre.

K1052 knows this number for sure, but I recall a figure from years ago, it was something like 98% of each ticket sale goes to the studio. It is/was literally pennies on each ticket that the theater takes in.

I also recall mentioning to K10 some time ago how I had an old habit of theater hopping (long since abandoned....maybe), of watching 2, and well, maybe 3 flicks per visit :sneaky: I always made sure to buy drinks and snacks when I did this (something I never purchase). I believe he said that he really wouldn't care about it--and he's in a position where he would care about that practice, if it was worth caring about.

 

[KeithTalent]

I guess that is true for me. I don't watch anywhere close to the number of movies I used to. Let us know about your top 10 for last year

http://letterboxd.com/keithtalent/list/my-best-of-2013-so-far/

KT

 

[Ns1]

K1052 knows this number for sure, but I recall a figure from years ago, it was something like 98% of each ticket sale goes to the studio. It is/was literally pennies on each ticket that the theater takes in.

generally: it's a sliding scale that differs by week, and it most certainly is not 98%. domestic vs foreign calculations are also done differently.

Transformers 4 took in 231m, Paramount did not keep 226m of that.

there are a few different models out there and it depends what distributor is doing the negotiating.

 

[squarecut1]

http://letterboxd.com/keithtalent/list/my-best-of-2013-so-far/

KT

Thank you

 

[KeithTalent]

Thank you

Be warned, I like some odd stuff, but there are some great movies on there!

KT

 

[squarecut1]

Be warned, I like some odd stuff, but there are some great movies on there!

KT

Yeah I did wonder about the spring break movie there

 

[K1052]

generally: it's a sliding scale that differs by week, and it most certainly is not 98%. domestic vs foreign calculations are also done differently.

Transformers 4 took in 231m, Paramount did not keep 226m of that.

there are a few different models out there and it depends what distributor is doing the negotiating.

Used to be more that way but mostly has gone the way of aggregate percentages or gross scale percentage in the last 10 years or so. Still remember arguing out traditional scale deals for individual locations on a per film basis.

And the number is not 98%, I'll only say it is definitely more than half..some times a little more and sometimes a lot more depending.

 

[Ns1]

And the number is not 98%, I'll only say it is definitely more than half..some times a little more and sometimes a lot more depending.

concur.

so were you previously on the exhibitor side? IIRC there was someone on the forum who used to own a few theaters or something like that, maybe you?

 

[K1052]

concur.

so were you previously on the exhibitor side? IIRC there was someone on the forum who used to own a few theaters or something like that, maybe you?

YHPM