Summer ME War Heating Up

[Danube]

According to retied US General, Iran is planning a pre-emptive strike against Israel's pre-emptive strike (and Israel said it would uses tactical nukes months ago). He calls summer 2010 a "tipping point" in ME.

The general also said a Soviet submarine with Iranian flag was observed unloading chemical weapons in Beirut.

Of course Obama putting an embargo on Israeli weapons has emboldened Israel's enemies and painted Israel into a corner - making an ME war certain.

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=136

 

[Sclamoz]

According to retied US General, Iran is planning a pre-emptive strike against Israel's pre-emptive strike (and Israel said it would uses tactical nukes months ago). He calls summer 2010 a "tipping point" in ME.

The general also said a Soviet submarine with Iranian flag was observed unloading chemical weapons in Beirut.

Of course Obama putting an embargo on Israeli weapons has emboldened Israel's enemies and painted Israel into a corner - making an ME war certain.

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=136

PJTV - a division of Pajamas Media - first went on air at the Republican National Convention of 2008, where it was the first online new media organization accorded a full television booth along with the old media networks.

Right...

In regards to the other crap:

At a joint press conference by Barak and Gates at the Pentagon, Gates said," As President Obama has affirmed, the US commitment to Israel's security is unshakable, and our defense relationship is stronger than ever, to the mutual benefit of both nations." He added, "Our work together on missile-defense technology is ongoing, and the US will continue to ensure that Israel maintains its qualitative military edge."

Gates gave no details, but sources in Israel and in Washington told "Defense News" that Gates was referring to IAF plans for procuring next-generation precision bunker-busting munitions. Although the Pentagon told Congress about plans to sell the bombs to Israel years ago during the Bush administration, only now have the plans reached fruition with delivery on the horizon.

http://dailyme.com/story/2010050400003820/upgrade-israel-air-force-precision-munitions-.html

Washington (CNN) -- The White House is asking Congress to approve $205 million to help Israel build a new short-range rocket defense system, Obama administration officials confirmed Friday.

Called the Iron Dome, the security system "addresses Israelis' worries about errant rockets being fired into their homes" and is designed to intercept incoming rockets fired from Lebanon and Gaza, a senior administration official said.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/14/Obama.Israel/index.html

 

[Noobtastic]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/05/...ael/index.html

Obama still circumvented congress and passed his own special spending provision that enables him to delay military aid.

so even though he signed the 20+ year israel aid spending bill, israel has received zero since november of 2008.

as far as iron dome goes, appropriating money is not the same as spending it.

congress is pissed obama went to so much effort to strip its powers and regulate what was always a legislative matter with executive oversight (but not control!).

i think its obvious what israel is going to do, especially with the recent announcement of a scud-armed hezbollah.

unacceptable as any leader with half a brain would say.


maybe if israel gives up more land then the muslims will make peace.

just a little bit more...win their affection Jews...

i know, convert to islam! Yeaah then you'll fit in!!!!

http://dailyme.com/story/20100504000...unitions-.html

oh man, obama says relationship with israel unshakable?

so thats why he is selling weapons to hezbollah-owned lebanon, approving helos to egypt but not israel...??

Not even the left in israel see obama as an ally. he is detached from reality, either that or he has a deep-seated undisclosed love affair for the islamic brand of warfare.

 

[UberNeuman]

 

[Sclamoz]

Obama still circumvented congress and passed his own special spending provision that enables him to delay military aid.

so even though he signed the 20+ year israel aid spending bill, israel has received zero since november of 2008.

What special spending provision was this that Obama passed?

as far as iron dome goes, appropriating money is not the same as spending it.

congress is pissed obama went to so much effort to strip its powers and regulate what was always a legislative matter with executive oversight (but not control!).

i think its obvious what israel is going to do, especially with the recent announcement of a scud-armed hezbollah.

unacceptable as any leader with half a brain would say.

Gee sorry the US is spending our money on your defense fast enough!

maybe if israel gives up more land then the muslims will make peace.

just a little bit more...win their affection Jews...

i know, convert to islam! Yeaah then you'll fit in!!!!

No thanks, I'm not big into superstitions and theocracies like jews and muslims. You're both pretty stupid as far as I'm concerned.

oh man, obama says relationship with israel unshakable?

so thats why he is selling weapons to hezbollah-owned lebanon, approving helos to egypt but not israel...??

Not even the left in Israel see obama as an ally. he is detached from reality, either that or he has a deep-seated undisclosed love affair for the islamic brand of warfare.

Maybe you should have read the article? The precision bombs that you want to pretend are being are being stopped because of a non-existent embargo are being delivered. Its telling that the only thing you can pick out is something to bitch about Obama.

 

[Noobtastic]

What special spending provision was this that Obama passed?

obama didn't pass anything, he wrote up his own provision that would allow him to deny aid even after it was passed by congress.

Gee sorry the US is spending our money on your defense fast enough!

hardly a fair response. usa has placed a de-facto embargo on israel, contrary to obama's "unshakable" committment to israel.

gutting the massive iranian sanctions bill passed by congress also doesnt make a great impression.

Maybe you should have read the article? The precision bombs that you want to pretend are being are being stopped because of a non-existent embargo are being delivered. Its telling that the only thing you can pick out is something to bitch about Obama.

do you read anything

israel already requested a series of JDAM to replace its existing stockpile mostly used up in the lebanon war.

the new kits are highly advanced and are considered the only non-nuclear bomb capable of penetrating an iranian nuclear site.

and yet, obama has delayed the sale for the past 9 months.

why?

if obama hates israel, fine. be honest. he should have said straight up he plans on increasing aid to the muslim world and shutting down historic allies.

 

[Sclamoz]

obama didn't pass anything, he wrote up his own provision that would allow him to deny aid even after it was passed by congress.

What is it? Give us some information about this provision!

hardly a fair response. usa has placed a de-facto embargo on israel, contrary to obama's "unshakable" committment to israel.

gutting the massive iranian sanctions bill passed by congress also doesnt make a great impression.

No we haven't placed an embargo on Israel. I'm sorry we had to make changes to Iranian sanctions to try and get the Chinese and Russians to help but I don't see Israel doing anything useful! This is a funny game bitch at the US for not spending enough money fast enough to defend Israel and not passing tough enough sanctions against Iran when its all for Israel. The US should be bitching we are "required" to do all this to begin with.

do you read anything

israel already requested a series of JDAM to replace its existing stockpile mostly used up in the lebanon war.

the new kits are highly advanced and are considered the only non-nuclear bomb capable of penetrating an iranian nuclear site.

and yet, obama has delayed the sale for the past 9 months.

why?

if obama hates israel, fine. be honest. he should have said straight up he plans on increasing aid to the muslim world and shutting down historic allies.

Yes, everyone hates Israel and is out to get you. Here's a tip...go see a shrink!

The Kits were requested in 2006, they haven't been delayed by an embargo and are being delivered. There is no embargo you nitwit.

May 4--The US will upgrade the Israel Air Force's (IAF) arsenal of precision munitions. The IAF is in the final stages of procuring precision bunker-busting bombs following the broadening of military ties between Washington and Jerusalem, reports "Defense News" in its latest issue. The tightening of defense ties, under a veil of secrecy, is unaffected by diplomatic spats between the Obama administration and the Netanyahu government.

Take a look at this from the same article:

The Pentagon approved the delivery of 100 GBU-28s in 2005, after years of hesitation. It notified Congress of the delivery of 50 more bombs in 2007. US and Israeli sources told "Defense News" that the IAF has not yet procured all the bombs approved of both types, nor has it used them in reprisal air strikes, in order to keep them ready for possible use against Iranian nuclear sites

I don't remember anything about an embargo back then?

 

[Noobtastic]

What is it? Give us some information about this provision!





No we haven't placed an embargo on Israel. I'm sorry we had to make changes to Iranian sanctions to try and get the Chinese and Russians to help but I don't see Israel doing anything useful! This is a funny game bitch at the US for not spending enough money fast enough to defend Israel and not passing tough enough sanctions against Iran when its all for Israel. The US should be bitching we are "required" to do all this to begin with.



Yes, everyone hates Israel and is out to get you. Here's a tip...go see a shrink!

The Kits were requested in 2006, they haven't been delayed by an embargo and are being delivered. There is no embargo you nitwit.



Take a look at this from the same article:



I don't remember anything about an embargo back then?

you really need to start reading

 

[Danube]

No we haven't placed an embargo on Israel.

Not officially. Obama has just personally seen to it that Israel doesn't get arms (even those agreed to before he came on the scene) - an embargo in a practical sense. On the other hand Arabs have been getting quite a bit of US arms. No surprise really. Obama does everything backwards.


"Obama blocks delivery of bunker-busters to Israel"

WASHINGTON — The United States has diverted a shipment of bunker-busters designated for Israel.

Officials said the U.S. military was ordered to divert a shipment of smart bunker-buster bombs from Israel to a military base in Diego Garcia. They said the shipment of 387 smart munitions had been slated to join pre-positioned U.S. military equipment in Israel Air Force bases.

"This was a political decision," an official said.


In 2008, the United States approved an Israeli request for bunker-busters capable of destroying underground facilities, including Iranian nuclear weapons sites. Officials said delivery of the weapons was held up by the administration of President Barack Obama, Middle East Newsline reported.

Since taking office, Obama has refused to approve any major Israeli requests for U.S. weapons platforms or advanced systems. Officials said this included proposed Israeli procurement of AH-64D Apache attack helicopters, refueling systems, advanced munitions and data on a stealth variant of the F-15E.

"All signs indicate that this will continue in 2010," a congressional source familiar with the Israeli military requests said. "This is really an embargo, but nobody talks about it publicly."

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2010/me_israel0217_03_18.asp

 

[Sclamoz]

Not officially. Obama has just personally seen to it that Israel doesn't get arms (even those agreed to before he came on the scene) - an embargo in a practical sense. On the other hand Arabs have been getting quite a bit of US arms. No surprise really. Obama does everything backwards.


"Obama blocks delivery of bunker-busters to Israel"

WASHINGTON — The United States has diverted a shipment of bunker-busters designated for Israel.

Officials said the U.S. military was ordered to divert a shipment of smart bunker-buster bombs from Israel to a military base in Diego Garcia. They said the shipment of 387 smart munitions had been slated to join pre-positioned U.S. military equipment in Israel Air Force bases.

"This was a political decision," an official said.


In 2008, the United States approved an Israeli request for bunker-busters capable of destroying underground facilities, including Iranian nuclear weapons sites. Officials said delivery of the weapons was held up by the administration of President Barack Obama, Middle East Newsline reported.

Since taking office, Obama has refused to approve any major Israeli requests for U.S. weapons platforms or advanced systems. Officials said this included proposed Israeli procurement of AH-64D Apache attack helicopters, refueling systems, advanced munitions and data on a stealth variant of the F-15E.

"All signs indicate that this will continue in 2010," a congressional source familiar with the Israeli military requests said. "This is really an embargo, but nobody talks about it publicly."

http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2010/me_israel0217_03_18.asp

If Israel has a weapon systems or technology that they choose not to sell is that an embargo? No it isn't.

As Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was in Washington this week absorbing the full wrath of the Obama administration, the Pentagon and Israel's defense establishment were in the process of sealing a large arms deal.

According to the deal, Israel will purchase three new Hercules C-130J airplanes. The deal for the three aircrafts, designed by Lockheed Martin, is worth roughly a quarter billion dollars. Each aircraft costs $70 million.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/exclusive-despite-row-u-s-and-israel-sign-massive-arms-deal-1.266650

We are still selling (giving I should say) military equipment to Israel.

The United States is transporting 387 "bunker-buster" bombs to its air base on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean as part of preparations for a possible strike against Iran's nuclear facilities, according to a report in Scotland's Sunday Herald.

The U.S. government signed a contract in January with Superior Maritime Services to transport 10 ammunition containers to Diego Garcia from Concord, California. The shipment includes 195 smart, guided Blu-110 bombs and 192 Blu-117 2,000lb bombs.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/report-u-s-positioning-bunker-busters-for-possible-iran-strike-1.266529

Those bombs that were sent to Diego Garcia are for the USN and were never headed to Israel to begin with. You'll only find Israeli propaganda claiming otherwise.

you really need to start reading

You need to start apologizing to the men and women in the US military.

 

[palehorse]

LOL! I don't care who you are, that there is funny!

 

[Jhhnn]

the new kits are highly advanced and are considered the only non-nuclear bomb capable of penetrating an iranian nuclear site.

and yet, obama has delayed the sale for the past 9 months.

why?

You answered your own question before asking it...

Looks like the Israelis are whipping up a plausible rationale for attacking Lebanon, again- they'll claim it's a pre- pre- pre- emptive strike, because Faux News and their Ouija board told 'em it was necessary to protect God's Chosen...

 

[Noobtastic]

You answered your own question before asking it...

Looks like the Israelis are whipping up a plausible rationale for attacking Lebanon, again- they'll claim it's a pre- pre- pre- emptive strike, because Faux News and their Ouija board told 'em it was necessary to protect God's Chosen...

i think right now lebanon is lucky it is facing israel and not the USA.

if we substitute israel's lebanon policy with obama's afghanistan policy, lebanon would be on fire.

it is a shame israel doesn't behave like its master.

it should treat hezbollah like the terrorist organization it is. not wait for an attack to justify a response.

dear god...we killed 5 pakistanis in response to the failed bomb plot in new york.

5 pakistanis, an airstrike ordered by obama.

no outrage Jhhnn? are your moral principals relative on the ethnic or social makeup of a country?

 

[Narmer]

Yawn!!!

 

[Noobtastic]

Yawn!!!

yawn!

more than 53 humans killed by obama's pakistan drone program since may 3rd 2010...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/15/AR2010051501012.html

YAWN!

hope and change FTW

 

[Jhhnn]

are your moral principals relative on the ethnic or social makeup of a country?

Not particularly, but yours clearly are...

 

[Sclamoz]

yawn!

more than 53 humans killed by obama's pakistan drone program since may 3rd 2010...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/15/AR2010051501012.html

YAWN!

hope and change FTW

I'm glad to hear Obama has the balls to attack our enemies and is doing a good job of it. This whole time you've been trying to tell us he secretly loves the muslims but I guess its the opposite of that now that it suits your purpose?

 

[Noobtastic]

I'm glad to hear Obama has the balls to attack our enemies. This whole time you've been trying to tell us he loves the muslims but I guess its the opposite of that now that it suits your purpose?

killing thousands of innocent people and making millions homeless is sticking it to our "enemies?"

did i say obama loves the muslims?

no.

he says it.

look at his recent pledge of more free money to pakistan...even though the majority of the pakistani people don't support it.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/218932

obama has pledged another 2 billion for 2010 in military hardware...

let's look at the numbers shall we?

the more money we sink into the war, the more people die.

there was more peace before the invasion than in 2010.

I have a hard time believing this is "sticking" it to our enemies.

Just more profit for the military industrial complex....

evil Afghani civilian...enemy of America.

 

[Mani]

lol

 

[Sclamoz]

killing thousands of innocent people and making millions homeless is sticking it to our "enemies?"

did i say obama loves the muslims?

no.

he says it.

Took me less than a minute to find this quote:

I'm sure the Left is just gushing over Obama's big shit over the Jews and hard-on for homicidal Muslims.

I'm sure there are plenty more.

look at his recent pledge of more free money to pakistan...even though the majority of the pakistani people don't support it.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/218932

obama has pledged another 2 billion for 2010 in military hardware...

let's look at the numbers shall we?

the more money we sink into the war, the more people die.

there was more peace before the invasion than in 2010.

I have a hard time believing this is "sticking" it to our enemies.

Just more profit for the military industrial complex....

evil Afghani civilian...enemy of America.

Doesn't look like a civilian to me, he looks more like a homicidal rock thrower you were talking about before lol. As far as Pakistanis opinion of the war I don't really give a damn.

The more money we sink in the more people die? Thats like saying the more bombs we drop the more people die! The more bullets we shoot the more people die! The longer the war goes on the more people die! No shit sherlock.

 

[Noobtastic]

Took me less than a minute to find this quote:

love and hard-on are two different expressions.

obama has a hard on for homicidal muslim states. he doesn't care about the victims of these states...most of whom happen to be muslim.

get it?

Doesn't look like a civilian to me, he looks more like a homicidal rock thrower you were talking about before lol. As far as Pakistanis opinion of the war I don't really give a damn.

Of course you don't. You're American. We're used to bombing foreign countries that don't us there. From our 1,000 killed/week operation rolling thunder, secret bombing of laos, carpet bombing of iraq and afghanistan...drone program against pakistan (which the pakistan government has objected to, and the UNHRC - the same body that accused israel of war crimes in Gaza - has condemned as many a times) it's safe to say the average american really doesn't give a damn about the rights of other nations.

cept for israel of course.

that tends to enrage the left more than anything else.

The more money we sink in the more people die? Thats like saying the more bombs we drop the more people die! The more bullets we shoot the more people die! The longer the war goes on the more people die! No shit sherlock.

math anyone?

the more money and effort we put into this conflict, the more the violence increases, get it?

at this rate, the war will not only never end - but simply get bigger and bigger and bigger.

we are breeding a new generation of terrorists by our ruthless policities in iraq and afghanistan.

a generation of terrorists who had nothing to do with 9/11, 7/7, mumbai, israel...NOTHING.

and yet you're okay with it?

the thousands of innocence we have killed?

Disgusting. How can you even call yourself a liberal is beyond me.