Suicide Note

[alkemyst]

He was born in Bethlehem. What do we know about that town?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethlehem
"Bethlehem is a Palestinian city in the central West Bank, approximately 10 kilometers (6 mi) south of Jerusalem"

Google images says people from Palestine look like this:

But Jesus was the son of God, not a son of Palestine.

 

[rh71]

He is right, after all, that life really has no real purpose.

The purpose is clear when things make you smile uncontrollably, and when you orgasm. Find happiness.

/sigh religion. If nothing makes you happy and no one cares for you, by all means, shoot yourself and make someone else clean up your mess.

 

[edro]

attention whore.

 

[grrl]

Walter Sobchak: Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

 

[slayer202]

You know what a true nihilist would have done? A true nihilist, after completing the last page of their 1900 page opus on the meaningless of life, would have thrown the thing into the fire and forgotten the whole thing. That.... would have taken balls.

well he would have never written it in the first place...I disagree though. I think it's clear that he is trying to spread his beliefs, and if he convinces even one person, or however many more, I'd say that is a much more "meaningful" life than 99.99% of people live.

The purpose is clear when things make you smile uncontrollably, and when you orgasm. Find happiness.

/sigh religion. If nothing makes you happy and no one cares for you, by all means, shoot yourself and make someone else clean up your mess.

obviously I enjoy smiling and orgasming enough that I'm still here lol. i won't even mention religion. I want to see someone today try to paint themselves as the son of god and see who listens, let alone believes

 

[thepd7]

It was obviously not a rash decision. While I disagree with suicide, at least it wasn't because some chick dumped him or he failed out of school. He had a purpose behind what he did.

Kudos to him in doing what he believed in, even if it goes against social norms (especially if that was the point).

But he's not supposed to believe in anything because life is useless.

Shows you how much having a parent die fucks you up.

 

[Farang]

This is how I, and presumably most "well-adjusted" people will respond. Of course no life has a meaning other than the one we create for it. But, playing Devil's Advocate here, this line of logic means that the opposite viewpoint is just as valid. If we are to create or derive the meaning of our own lives, then we should ultimately be able to decide that there is no meaning. I've not studied much Nihilism or Absurdism, but understand the basic underlying ideas. If we can't find a point to our lives, why continue to live them in search of this elusive, intangible, thing?

I love being alive, even though I've dealt with my share of depression and feelings of complete worthlessness and aloneness. I would never want to kill myself. But, disconnecting from emotions for a bit, it's not really that illogical to decide to simply end yourself if you decide you don't need to exist anymore. If an obviously intelligent, insightful man gets to be 35 years of age, it's safe to assume he's done a fair bit of searching and thinking. Maybe he's decided that there's no point to his life. Not an emo "my life is not worth living" kind of thing, but more of a decision of efficiency. He's going to die eventually, he knows there's no ultimate goal in life, then why not just do it himself? I'm an empath with an over active imagination, and I often wonder what my life will be like when I'm 70. What if I never marry, or I marry and my wife dies. Will I just sit and spend every day waiting for death to come? Of course the answer most people will give is, no, go out and live your life. But that brings us back to square one. This probably only makes a small bit of sense. I guess what I'm saying is that when I use my heart, I feel for this guy, and his family, and anyone who ever gets to the point of suicide. I know there's plenty of life to live for. But my logical side understands the nihilist rationale.

35 is relatively young, lots of life ahead of you. I don't think you get the right to kill yourself until you're 70, the exception being poor health at an earlier age. Look at Hunter S. Thompson. That to me is a perfectly acceptable suicide, if you forget the fact that he made his family find him with his brains blown out.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Sounds like 1905 pages of rationalization for his ultimate act.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Forget it, people are not an open book. It has nothing to do with you.

doesn't matter. go troll somewhere else.

 

[logo908]

obviously I enjoy smiling and orgasming enough that I'm still here lol. i won't even mention religion.

So it's ok with you that smiles and orgasms are just biological tricks to make you say that? And to ensure the survival of the species.

Just being devil's advocate, but I think everyone should at least read the last 15ish pages of his book to get a better idea of what he was saying.

 

[Wyndru]

doesn't matter. go troll somewhere else.

I agree with him though, you need to (try) to forget about it, and remove yourself from the possibility that the suicide had anything to do with you.

I had moved down to NYC around the time that my dad died. I spoke to him the night before he committed suicide. Sad part was it was a wrong (speed dial) number I dialed, and I woke him up in the middle of the night. Although he was bipolar and on a ton of meds, I still think there was something I could have done to prevent it. Sometimes I even think I might have had something to do with it.

People always give me the same advice that mjinz posted, but it still sucks.

 

[Alienwho]

The dude's a philosopher, and nobody takes a philosopher serious until they're dead.

 

[MJinZ]

If Jesus was black, wouldn't the black missionaries have succeeded?

There are no Black Missionaries. They never had the technology to cross the ocean from Africa.

White missionaries succeeded in America and Africa. I see most blacks worship a White Jesus. Hilarious I know.

 

[BoberFett]

This thread is disappointing. I was hoping to read the OPs suicide note.

 

[alkemyst]

There are no Black Missionaries. They never had the technology to cross the ocean from Africa.

White missionaries succeeded in America and Africa. I see most blacks worship a White Jesus. Hilarious I know.

Why wouldn't Jesus help them with that then?

 

[MJinZ]

Why wouldn't Jesus help them with that then?

Cuz Jesus is A-rab and they're the Terrorists u kno?

 

[mumedina]

Good call.

I don't know, perhaps he is the type of nihilist that I am (If that's indeed what I am). Yes, I am of the type that thinks life is, cosmically, meaningless. The problems of the world, as I see it, has to with the methods in which we subconsciously try to find meaning for our lives. Money, power, materialism, consumerism, etc. are the illusions that drive us to misery. If we, as a human race, collectively realized this, then maybe...just maybe, we can have peace. So, therefore, I think he wrote his note/book with that goal in mind. That sad part is that he will come and go, making no real difference, like a drop in the ocean. In that sense, his life serves as a prime example of the nihilistic philosophy.


Having said that, my only regret is that he did it first.

 

[postmortemIA]

I don't think that his view is naive, no reason to diss the guy. His meaning of life was to complete that book, and do what he has done.

Anyway, song for the dead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGGzNUO4dcs