Suicide by train 1hr ago..

BUTCH1

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So I took my bike out to head the the corner-store and heard an unusually long blast by the train followed by the screeching of locking brakes, thought maybe a major mechanical breakage so i pedaled over to the tracks. I saw the train engineers with flashlights looking around so I went on to the store and it was still stopped when I got out. Now I'm more interested and as I approached the stopped train an ambulance flew up and 2 paramedics ran down the tracks about 150ft, they ran back to the ambulance for 2 medical bags and went back. Now one of the local's I knew came over so I attempted to get a little closer and a cop chased me off. "we're you a witness"?, no sir, "then your free to leave this crime scene". 10 minutes later another cop came over, he was very polite and asked if anyone saw him get struck to which we all replied no. Trying to "dig" more info out of the cop I mentioned " damm, I feel bad for the train engineers", they are just doing a job". Yea, he replied, it's a real mess over there. By the way they were shining their flashlights it looked like he was in pieces, yikes, what a way to go, 100% success rate, but why put the railroad employees through that, their has to be a less grisly way to end your life.
 

BoomerD

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Because most suiciders don't fucking care about other people...if they did...they wouldn't do it.
 

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^It's actually not 100% success. Seen stories of just amputations and person ends up alive. If you miss the front of the train, it's just a couple foot drop, and you are only really "guaranteed" to make contact with the wheels.

Seriously, this is such a messy, unreliable method. There are numerous other options.
 

BUTCH1

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^It's actually not 100% success. Seen stories of just amputations and person ends up alive. If you miss the front of the train, it's just a couple foot drop, and you are only really "guaranteed" to make contact with the wheels.

Seriously, this is such a messy, unreliable method. There are numerous other options.

Yea, I could think of several ways that didn't involve violent dismemberment but this one worked, they never brought the guy back to the ambulance and I saw on paramedic hugging another so it must have been gruesome.
 

BUTCH1

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Because most suiciders don't fucking care about other people...if they did...they wouldn't do it.
Well, deep depression is sometimes unnoticed and slowly chews away at people. Look at Robin Williams, who would have thought he would go out like that?, way above-average IQ and still beloved by his many fans.
 

Puffnstuff

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I all depends on the circumstances as to whether or not being hit by a train causes death. I had a friend who worked MPI ( military police investigations) in Germany and shared photos of a scene he did when a GI wearing a trench coat attempted to cross the tracks in front of a passenger train. In his case the guys coat was trailing behind him and caught the front of the locomotive which snatched him back in front of the train impaling his chest. He ended up with the turnbuckle through him which was very ugly and if I hadn't seen the pictures I wouldn't have believed it. He had other stuff in his portfolio too like high speed accidents on the autobahn causing decapitations. Yep it wasn't your typical family photo album. OP should be glad that he didn't witness it first hand. Those guys driving the train run into this situation all too often and yes it can have an adverse affect on them.
 

biostud

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Because most suiciders don't fucking care about other people...if they did...they wouldn't do it.

Yeah, but think on how far out you have to be mentally to not care about other people and see suicide as the least worse option.
 

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It's sad but I don't think there will ever be a way to prevent this from happening completely. Even rail systems with enclosed tracks are used for suicides at stations,
 

KMFJD

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^It's actually not 100% success. Seen stories of just amputations and person ends up alive. If you miss the front of the train, it's just a couple foot drop, and you are only really "guaranteed" to make contact with the wheels.

Seriously, this is such a messy, unreliable method. There are numerous other options.

My cousin worked at a major hospital in Toronto for years and they would get a lot of suicidal people that would jump of the bridges over the 401 to try and kill themselves, they usually failed and ended up quadriplegic.
 

CraKaJaX

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Reminds me of the time I was exiting I-4 in Lake Mary, FL and seeing an "object" fall from the overpass that was just down the interstate from the ramp I exited off of. It was during rush hour in the morning, and they say he bounced off ~10 cars before even hitting the pavement. As I watched it happen from the ramp, I thought to myself "no.. it can't be", but part of me thought what else would it be? The location I was going wasn't far off the exit, so when I get there I had them put on the radio. Yep, it was suicide. The guy who jumped had apparently tried cutting his wrists earlier in the morning but it didn't work, so he drove to the overpass and tossed himself over the railing.

Edit -- http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-01-17/news/JUMPER17_1_lake-mary-mary-police-gmc
 

flexy

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When after I moved to Berlin (which has a vast subway net), they have those once in a while.
I remember raiding the subway/train one day...and "something happened", train stopped several 100 meters before the station, people were instructed to go forward to the first carriage and exit from there. As I was making my way from the train (fortunately I didn't SEE anything), however several rescue personnel rushed by us, back to from where we were coming. Locking eyes with one of them, and it was the eeriest and weirdest thing which I won't ever forget, although it's so long ago. Difficult to explain, although they were professionals and probably did this many times already, the look in his face....like he knew that despite the urgency and the running and the equipment they carried there won't be much they can do. In this moment I felt really bad for them.
 

BUTCH1

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Reminds me of the time I was exiting I-4 in Lake Mary, FL and seeing an "object" fall from the overpass that was just down the interstate from the ramp I exited off of. It was during rush hour in the morning, and they say he bounced off ~10 cars before even hitting the pavement. As I watched it happen from the ramp, I thought to myself "no.. it can't be", but part of me thought what else would it be? The location I was going wasn't far off the exit, so when I get there I had them put on the radio. Yep, it was suicide. The guy who jumped had apparently tried cutting his wrists earlier in the morning but it didn't work, so he drove to the overpass and tossed himself over the railing.

Edit -- http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2006-01-17/news/JUMPER17_1_lake-mary-mary-police-gmc

Wow, that's even worse, since we know I-4 is packed like sardine cans this could have cost others their lives trying to avoid him. Anyway the local paper has the story on what happened last night,http://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20160911/train-hits-kills-32-year-old-man-near-beville-road
 

Mayne

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Terrible way to go and totally asshole way to traumatize the driver and people on the train.
 

NetWareHead

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Sometimes its not even suicide. Someone looking to save a few minute and beat the train. Or sometimes sheer stupidity. Like a a long railway trestle or tunnel with no room for pedestrians and a train to both be on the same place at the same time. Train arrives and somebody is probably dying.
 

BUTCH1

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Sometimes its not even suicide. Someone looking to save a few minute and beat the train. Or sometimes sheer stupidity. Like a a long railway trestle or tunnel with no room for pedestrians and a train to both be on the same place at the same time. Train arrives and somebody is probably dying.

Apparently this guy was just sitting on the tracks and didn't get up as the train came along. They are usually going 45-55MPH..
 

rh71

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Here's a pic my wife sent me after her train hit someone (a jumper). Happens more often than you hear about. LIRR trains are delayed a lot due to "pedestrian strike". Yes, he's in pieces.

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BUTCH1

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Here's a pic my wife sent me after her train hit someone (a jumper). Happens more often than you hear about. LIRR trains are delayed a lot due to "pedestrian strike". Yes, he's in pieces.

20160818_074317.jpg
Ouch!, there's a vid website that specializes in gross shit that has a man still alive after being cut in half by a train, I'm not gonna link to it as there is porn there as well, it's called KAOTIC, be warned this shit is not for the faint of heart..
 

Imp

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Sometimes its not even suicide. Someone looking to save a few minute and beat the train. Or sometimes sheer stupidity. Like a a long railway trestle or tunnel with no room for pedestrians and a train to both be on the same place at the same time. Train arrives and somebody is probably dying.

Most of the train-incidents that make the news where I live involve someone walking on the tracks... often with headphones on. Maybe they're suicides and that's just a story, but if true, walking on train tracks and not paying attention to the "road?"

I did highway work and ended up on train tracks a bunch of times, I was paranoid as hell and constantly checked for trains when within a few feet of the track.

Here's a pic my wife sent me after her train hit someone (a jumper). Happens more often than you hear about. LIRR trains are delayed a lot due to "pedestrian strike". Yes, he's in pieces.

Wow. I'm guessing the body got caught up in the wheels and kept getting pushed along. The steel tracks + wheels essentially act as giant scissors.
 

Mayne

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Most of the train-incidents that make the news where I live involve someone walking on the tracks... often with headphones on. Maybe they're suicides and that's just a story, but if true, walking on train tracks and not paying attention to the "road?"

I did highway work and ended up on train tracks a bunch of times, I was paranoid as hell and constantly checked for trains when within a few feet of the track.



Wow. I'm guessing the body got caught up in the wheels and kept getting pushed along. The steel tracks + wheels essentially act as giant scissors.


its called common sense. Most people look both ways before crossing a road and look both ways on a rail road track...but i could be wrong.
 

BUTCH1

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Most of the train-incidents that make the news where I live involve someone walking on the tracks... often with headphones on. Maybe they're suicides and that's just a story, but if true, walking on train tracks and not paying attention to the "road?"

I did highway work and ended up on train tracks a bunch of times, I was paranoid as hell and constantly checked for trains when within a few feet of the track.



Wow. I'm guessing the body got caught up in the wheels and kept getting pushed along. The steel tracks + wheels essentially act as giant scissors.
About 15 years ago an elderly couple were driving a brand-new Crown Vic and as they approached the tracks somehow got confused as to where they should be,( there is a major intersection close-by and I think they saw those lights and stopped on the tracks). Anyway the FEC locomotive slams into the Vic and winds up pushing it down the tracks about 4-500yds and both were unharmed. the Vic was a tank of a car and the train caught it flush and just started pushing it sideways. They only had the car a short time, 300 miles on it.
 

Puffnstuff

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You know suicide isn't the way to deal with life's problems and when a person succeeds they will discover how much better off they were just seconds beforehand.
 

BUTCH1

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You know suicide isn't the way to deal with life's problems and when a person succeeds they will discover how much better off they were just seconds beforehand.

IDK, if I were a stage-4 terminal cancer patient and the pain meds were not working it might look like a better deal than yet more suffering. The fact that this guy was just 32 is disturbing though, that's really young.
 
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All the people talking about selfishness and whatnot don't seem to get it. The suicidal individual isn't exactly acting rationally. Depression is a serious illness that just happens to affect the brain instead of a cancer or other illness which affects some other body part. It's a shame that these particular individuals couldn't, for whatever reason, get the help they needed before cutting their lives short.
 

BUTCH1

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All the people talking about selfishness and whatnot don't seem to get it. The suicidal individual isn't exactly acting rationally. Depression is a serious illness that just happens to affect the brain instead of a cancer or other illness which affects some other body part. It's a shame that these particular individuals couldn't, for whatever reason, get the help they needed before cutting their lives short.

I agree with that, but why give a RR engineer a nightmare scenario he will not soon, if ever, forget about. There are other methods that don't involve anyone else and a violent ending with a shredded body laying around. The 2nd cop (who had seen the body) seemed very depressed over this tragic ending.